2013-08-14, 00:26 | Link #264 |
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Nope, I don't think the "competent" part reached half! 75% percent try to rewrite with OC or other means but failed. Some great writers, but they only write one-shot. (Not to mention some people who only talk.)
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2013-08-14, 00:43 | Link #265 |
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In the end, I think it's okay to be disappointed and to criticize the story, but at some point you just have to understand what it is and what it's trying to be and decide if you can accept it or not. Judging it by "what it could have been" isn't ultimately going to get you anywhere over the long term, and will only cause more and more disappointment to fester.
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2013-08-14, 01:00 | Link #266 | |
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Izumi on the other hand, shapes the world every one else writes in. That's a remarkable responsibility and I feel that he has let his story down by being so terrible. Of course, most writers are terrible. That's just the rule of averages. But I've discovered that most fanfics will be terrible because their writers are terrible. That is why they produce fanfics for free rather than actual pieces of published work. If you are good at something, never do it for free. So therefore, most fics will be terrible, I wish it wasn't, but I can see why. And that's why I think hoping for a fanfic capable of challenging the source material is foolhardy. The author however published IS, got it animated, and is now getting more novels published on top of a 2nd season of anime on the way. I guess he's a sure bet now that he's proven that he can rake in the money. Ah, cowardly businesses. Never the less, I believe there's some element of jealously involved in the hatred for Izumi. Like, "if he's writing a terrible fanfic, how come he got published and I didn't?" Might be the case.
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2013-08-14, 01:03 | Link #268 | |
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(But Geass Crown is even worse...)
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2013-08-14, 01:37 | Link #269 | |
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2013-08-14, 01:58 | Link #271 | |
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But the BD sales blew several other series out of the water! I wonder if anyone's written an opinion piece or gone to Japan to work out the phenomenon of IS' unexplained popularity. It would be really interesting to see who were buying up the BDs, what were their traits, preferences, etc. It would have been a great way to base speculatation as to where is the industry headed next.
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2013-08-14, 02:16 | Link #273 |
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...Is this really such a big deal? Maybe 2 years ago sure but since then we had tons of other series that sold just as much or even more than IS and these series are pretty variable in genre as well.
People seem to think that IS would bring forth some dark age of Anime where the top selling series are all mindless fanservice series, but after two years already can you honestly say there has been any significant shift in focus that have been brought forth thanks to IS? For pete sake it was just one freak accident, no need to prepare for war over it.
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2013-08-14, 02:56 | Link #275 | |
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But you'd never know if the 2nd season of Infinite Stratos is about to open a can of Sith relics and unleash a Force Horror upon the Anime Galaxy.
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2013-08-14, 03:18 | Link #276 |
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Even without Gen nothing would have changed.
You make it sound like there wasn't an abundance of fanservice Animes trying to make it big before IS came along. Likewise, just because Madoka and Fate/Zero were big doesn't mean that there's suddenly a decrease in fanservice Animes.
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I'm not sure how much value this series' success has in predicting the future, though. Other shows have had similar elements, but just haven't brought it together in quite the same way and haven't been as successful. So despite the insinuations, I think it isn't all some dry formula of "insert ingredients and just add water". I think it's the combination of everything (plus timing) that made it work. Quote:
But again, you have to know what audience you're trying to reach and figure out what they're looking for -- and then execute it well. And I suppose that perhaps the authors elected to reach out to an audience that didn't share your views about what they find entertaining. (Incidentally, I also bought To Love-Ru Darkness on BD... but there are heck of a lot of other shows with otherwise-similar themes and elements that just don't interest me because to me they're not as fun and not as well-made. So I don't think my own tastes are a "formula" either, even if there are certain types of shows that have higher chances to get my attention than others.)
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2013-08-14, 04:41 | Link #279 | |
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I had to come into this discussion, excuse me.
First off, we all agree that Ichika is a non-realizing "idiot". Now, I've seen a lot of anime series, and I can safely say that all that had Comedy and Harem at the same time as a genre, included a more or less idiotic male protagonist. If you have an example proving otherwise, do share. But remember, only if the genres are both Harem and Comedy. That's just the way the production system works. Quote:
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2013-08-14, 05:31 | Link #280 |
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@rentlessflame: Well, that is your opinion! But with To Love-Ru (I read Manga), at least I could have a good laugh.
But now, remember it, Romance is less and less important with Shonen Authors nowday. Not really a bad thing, but I just want too see something that could touch to the fan's core. (That is why I never choose Charlotte as the main girl! We need something more than an Angel! Or a lewd maid in Vol.8!) |
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