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2013-10-20, 15:51 | Link #24 | |
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Keep in mind, it was illegal for a good while under the PROTECT Act banning "fictional depictions", but that was struck down in the Chris Handley case as unconstitutional. Now, you could argue that obscenity laws still apply (which took down Handley,) but that's not lolicon-specific. You could get in trouble via obscenity laws for a lot of porn...depending on your jurisdiction. There's federal charges for obscene material, but no federal standard of what it actually is (besides the Miller Test.) There was this guy who was being investigated for CP, had lolicon on his PC and got arrested, but eventually they dropped all charges on him; http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...explicit-anime And since I don't feel like typing shit, this is a good guide on the law surrounding lolicon and explicit manga, especially on the US/Canada issue when it comes to lolicon. http://cbldf.org/2013/10/faq-graphic...ng-the-border/ Legal document on the status of lolicon in Canada; http://cbldf.org/wp-content/uploads/...ada-Issues.pdf So it's a state by state thing, not actually clear...
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2013-10-20, 17:53 | Link #26 |
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I would give it a week or two, but to be honest with you...I seen people getting caught a month after their order. Of course, this was drug shipments right after the Silk Road bust, so that might have something to do with it.
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2013-10-20, 18:06 | Link #27 |
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I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but the only time I've ever heard of a controlled delivery type scenario being used for lolicon stuff in Canada, it sounded like it was for explicit lolicon porn and not just for an artbook that might be a bit sketchy in spots.
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2013-10-20, 18:08 | Link #28 | |
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BaronNoir: Canada is not that crazy and extreme about this. You can sleep easily. Edit: Apparently another thread was created that links to actual legal briefs on the subject, if you want to read more. It doesn't really affect my opinion above, though; this artbook would not qualify under the wording of the law, and it's not that ambiguous that someone could mistakenly think it does.
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2013-10-21, 13:10 | Link #29 |
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I think that's a bit too harsh, even if it's really cautious. As I've stated before, this topic goes beyond TLR in particular, because I believe the OP and many people around here would like to import more stuff in the future.
It's best to send a message, of "You're mostly safe but here is the worst case scenario", and with that kind of measurement should create more comfort in the long run and expectations in the future, as well as a more informed decision. In the end, despite it not being used that much, it's definitely a law citizens should try contesting, and I would feel the same towards similar laws in my area as well. There's a lot more at stake here which affects many on this site. It's not about fear. It's about how to approach and work around a broken law while building awareness. And considering all the bias and ignorance on many countries this side of the world towards a medium that we all share, it makes sense that Speedyexpress is looking up on all corners. We may all disagree on whether certain anime is good or not, but most of us would certainly balk at whatever loaded labels given by people in power and "Special Intrest" groups who have most likely never ever seen the material they condemn. Of course, the attitudes are much worse down here in the south, but yea....
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Still, it's not something I would be super paranoid about, though I would keep it in mind. You're right, this isn't heroin, and it probably is acceptable under the law. Quote:
Also, I wouldn't say attitudes are better up North; a fun fact-Canada banned more books than the Soviet Union during the Cold War. It's more of a rural vs urban thing, and America is a lot more socially liberal than people realize....
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2013-10-21, 19:40 | Link #31 |
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I think you're okay as long as you don't have anything suspicious in there. Like obvious child porn.
I doubt Canada is like Russia, which straight out looks at anything anime as kiddie porn...
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I think the key is balance. Be smart and informed, understand the risks if you try going out of bounds, but continue to make reasonable decisions consistent with the law and established precedent. I think most would agree in principle that the law is poorly-written and should be revised, but it's unlikely that you'll find politicians who want to risk messing with it for fear of how it may be spun against them by the opposition, and could hurt their and their party's chances in the next election.
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2013-10-22, 19:04 | Link #34 |
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I removed the link because linking to high-res scans of artbooks aren't allowed... (here's the Amazon Link) but no. Heck, one of the big complaints about that particular artbook from Japanese fans on Amazon.co.jp was that it had practically no nudity, which is one of the franchise's defining traits. Of all the To-Love Ru artbooks to import, you picked the most safe and tame. It's beyond fine.
(From the third highlighted review: 何と乳首解禁のイラストは一枚も無し。 乳首解禁でなくてもToLOVEる特有のエロスなイラストがあればまだ良かったんですがそれも 無し。 But, there wasn't even one illustration with uncensored breasts. That might have been fine if there were some of To-Love Ru's characteristic erotic illustrations, but there weren't any of those either! )
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2013-10-22, 19:21 | Link #38 | |
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Yeah man, you're fine. I had a totally different image in my mind when you said "TLR artbook."
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It's kinda sad that violence is okay to show to people, but god forbid a body part be shown. >.> I think the children have much more to worry about, really.
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Well, on the plus side, now that I removed (by trash bag) 4 artbook, around 30 manga books with fanservice (Oreimo, Freezing, Tsukaima, Rosario Vampire and of course Love Ru normal and a couple of Darkness ones-those ones desserved trashing, TBH-, stuff like that) , 8-9 Blu-ray, X-360, PS3 games with somewhat risqué cover (Highschool DXD English, DOA 5, Hyperdimension Neptuna US...), 15 western fantasy or sf books with dubious covers, some hardcover comics (actually, finding comics with females characters and presentable covers is remarkably hard...) and 2 figurines (a Momo Deviluke by Alter and a Total Eclipse Cryska by Koto), deleted all my anime and downloaded series (mostly Gordon Ramsay shows. Yes, I'm ashamed) and scrubbed my hard drive 5 times....
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