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Old 2013-11-20, 12:17   Link #8661
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Old 2013-11-20, 12:28   Link #8662
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Are you trying to make Matryoshka Spoiler or something? One would be enough. Especially it doesn't matters anyway to many who uses email notifications.

So, that means King of the End has already appeared before fifth century and had been killing Campiones, or at least fighting, for years.
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Old 2013-11-20, 12:33   Link #8663
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Old 2013-11-20, 12:36   Link #8664
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Ama no murakumo
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Old 2013-11-20, 12:44   Link #8665
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i knew it, it's a time paradox
kote is interested in godou, find susano who has the same sword( ama no murakumo), go to sleep and myths of swords appear, lucretia go to japan to study those myths and left prometeus tablet, godou use the tablet to become campione, then he travel in time and get the interest of kote
it's crazy
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Old 2013-11-20, 12:56   Link #8666
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i knew it, it's a time paradox
kote is interested in godou, find susano who has the same sword( ama no murakumo), go to sleep and myths of swords appear, lucretia go to japan to study those myths and left prometeus tablet, godou use the tablet to become campione, then he travel in time and get the interest of kote
it's crazy
Huh? From what I know, they aren't supposed to be there yet. So it isn't a time paradox since it never happened before. I don't know. I always hated time travel anyway. I prefer 'Operation of Parallel Worlds' much more than time travels.
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:08   Link #8667
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time traveling is always confusing, the end is the begining and the begining is the end, it really fit the king of the end, so godou is the king of the begining?of the dawn? anyway it's crazy
i also like parallel worlds but when you see the same person twice or more but here is time travel
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:09   Link #8668
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I'm still mad but it's pretty much okay... though it made that part of my story stray from canon, I did have a justification for it anyway thanks to that (not that it really matters since I am going to stray from canon a lot anyway).

The same, as in, all is the same form of energy? No differences at all? Or are they pretty much convertable from one form to another? You know, at these times, I really wished the author would cut his expositions on history and myth trivias and instead do some world-building exposition instead.
It has been mentioned all this forms of energy are the same, but called differently in accordance with the culture and religion, is more or less how they call the boundary of life and inmortality, in different ways in accord with the origin of the caracter.
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:16   Link #8669
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i knew it, it's a time paradox
kote is interested in godou, find susano who has the same sword( ama no murakumo), go to sleep and myths of swords appear, lucretia go to japan to study those myths and left prometeus tablet, godou use the tablet to become campione, then he travel in time and get the interest of kote
it's crazy
It's only a paradox if the future would have been different if they hadn't gone to the past. Even if Godou didn't go to the past, the king of the end would have eventually made it to Japan and gotten sealed any way, or that Lucretia would have gone to Japan for another reason.
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:27   Link #8670
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It's only a paradox if the future would have been different if they hadn't gone to the past. Even if Godou didn't go to the past, the king of the end would have eventually made it to Japan and gotten sealed any way, or that Lucretia would have gone to Japan for another reason.

first, the kote was not sealed, he went to sleep, and all the goodslayer were in europe even uldin was in europe helping athila right?
about lucretia you are right but when you read vol 3 it become a little hard to believe that she go to a university journey in japan for any other reason
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:29   Link #8671
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^

No, he was sealed. To be more precise, he went to sleep, they enchanted his sword, then they lifted him into the sky, putting it in GEO orbit for some reason I don't comprehend. Thus, he was sealed. Oh, by the way, he was sealed in around 10-12th century or so, by Susano'o and the other elders or old ones. I don't even remember what are the difference between the two.

Who knows about Lucretia. Any evidence?

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time traveling is always confusing, the end is the begining and the begining is the end, it really fit the king of the end, so godou is the king of the begining?of the dawn? anyway it's crazy
i also like parallel worlds but when you see the same person twice or more but here is time travel
I'm a big subscriber to the parallel worlds theory. As in, the one described by one Cracked article and the same one Nasu used. That, plus the ensemble/statistical quantum physics interpretation. The result is my interpretation on how her Fairy Corridor worked I put a few pages back. Of course, since the Campione! series isn't big on science, it doesn't matter anyway.

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I see, thanks.
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:38   Link #8672
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from vol 13
"However, a thousand years ago, didn't you guys seal up that 'King of the End' guy?"

'He was not sealed. Rather, after that brat ran off to fall into deep slumber due to exhaustion, we simply switched the location where he sleeps. However, it is probably about time for our little trick to lose effectiveness.'

A god's aloof tone increased in Susanoo's voice.
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:46   Link #8673
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So, let me get this straight. They didn't seal him. They didn't enchant him. They didn't put any sort of contingency or any sort of precautions. They simply just lifted him up into the sky, optimistically believing that nothing could go wrong.

Did I get it right so far?
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Old 2013-11-20, 13:50   Link #8674
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So, let me get this straight. They didn't seal him. They didn't enchant him. They didn't put any sort of contingency or any sort of precautions. They simply just lifted him up into the sky, optimistically believing that nothing could go wrong.

Did I get it right so far?
It worked.

They didn't expect it to last forever to begin with. They moved the KoTE and brought in Sun Wukong to take care of any threats that might wake him. It kept him sleeping for a long time.
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Old 2013-11-20, 14:01   Link #8675
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...sometimes I don't know if the people in Campione are simply just lucky idiots or genre-savvy geniuses. Most likely the former.
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Old 2013-11-20, 14:07   Link #8676
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You may be right for some characters, but... keep in mind Susanoo etc. have Spirit Visions available. Once something is about to go wrong, they'll know it and can take measures to stop it. Exaggerated defenses on the other hand might just draw more people in.
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Old 2013-11-20, 14:10   Link #8677
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I still wonder how exactly they powered that floating island of theirs. Though for some reason, it reminds me of Ame-no-Torifune for some reason. Well, if Ame-no-Nuhoko is real, then maybe it's real too. Though I think the reason is that I'm listening to Satellite Torifune right now.
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Old 2013-11-20, 14:16   Link #8678
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i keep getting the idea that susano will die. what about this theory.
fake athena brake the seal of king artur and in a way or another stole his authority with the medalion, then kill melgar(he is steel also) and then susano, all this to make the kote more powerfull
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Old 2013-11-20, 14:22   Link #8679
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Melgar? You mean Melqart? Don't know. For all we know, he might also wake up and deal with it himself. For all we know, Artio might have revived in the present, 1500 years is a long time after all. For all we know, Susano'o's live might have no effect on the seal. Or it might not.

We don't know anything on that far. We already only grasping things with our theories on Artus. The story up to that point? Nope, don't know jack about them. And I feel that Susano'o will fight again, one way or another.
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Old 2013-11-20, 14:28   Link #8680
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Melgar? You mean Melqart? Don't know. For all we know, he might also wake up and deal with it himself. For all we know, Artio might have revived in the present, 1500 years is a long time after all. For all we know, Susano'o's live might have no effect on the seal. Or it might not.

We don't know anything on that far. We already only grasping things with our theories on Artus. The story up to that point? Nope, don't know jack about them. And I feel that Susano'o will fight again, one way or another.

yeah, you are right, but after reading about melqart(baal), artur and artos in the last part i couldn't help but think about it
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