2013-12-29, 13:23 | Link #32421 |
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Oh, the China-Japanese-U.S.-RestofAsia tensions that'll only end after decade after decade of diplomacy, reconciliation and perhaps border skirmishes and international incidents. At least the French and Germans get along now!
Russia train station bombing kills at least 16 as Olympics near Dozens wounded after female suicide bomber attacks in city of Volgograd http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-...near-1.2478303
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2013-12-29, 13:40 | Link #32422 | |
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But like I said, at least China and South Korea show restraint when it come to International incidents, as opposed to Japan with a single soldier missing... Oh, Don't we just love how olympics bring the best out of us?
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2013-12-29, 15:40 | Link #32423 | |
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Just in case: I do not bring this up to imply Japanese are worse people than others. Whether that guy's sincere or trolls, every country has a few nuts. On that note, I find it intriguing that US and Singapore both voiced disappointment at Abe's visit to the shrine, especially US. That certainly won't discourage China from continuing their complain any time soon. Last edited by maplehurry; 2013-12-29 at 16:50. |
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2013-12-29, 18:15 | Link #32424 | |
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Nice input. If my own government bred hatred towards a particular group of people, I would be mad as well. I also hate tossers who keep dwelling about the past when the vast majority of people who might be old enough to be involved in a number of bad things are already dead if not dying. Grow the hell up and look forward indeed. When anybody thinks that Britain and Ireland managed to get things going despite centuries of maltreatment, abuse and other bad things committed by the English/Brits towards Ireland from many centuries ago up to end of The Troubles in 1998, at least 3 countries in the Far East really need to learn what Ireland did instead of going down the same path as Taiwan in terms of fostering hatred against the former colonizer. |
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2013-12-29, 18:59 | Link #32425 |
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BBC: Michael Schumacher, seven-time Formula 1 world champion, is in a critical condition after a skiing accident, says the French hospital treating him.
The 44-year-old German suffered serious brain trauma, was in a coma on arrival and underwent a brain operation. Was never a fan, but hope he recovers. |
2013-12-29, 19:27 | Link #32426 | |
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2013-12-29, 21:35 | Link #32429 | ||||||
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No matter how hard you try to pretend it doesn't exist, there are political implications when you honor war criminals. Or do you seriously believe there would not be any repercussion if there was a high profile church in Germany that honors Hitler, and the Chancellor visits it? Also, I'd love to hear what jurisdiction one would go to "charge" Japan Quote:
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I'm far from a supporter of China, but I'm also not a blind supporter of Japan. Saying that there should be no repercussion from the visits would be as naive as saying burning the Quran should also draw no reaction from Muslims. |
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2013-12-30, 03:23 | Link #32432 | |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/30/wo...html?hpt=hp_t1
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2013-12-30, 06:21 | Link #32433 | |
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What, like South Korea sending military forces to occupy the island in dispute, when international law does not recognize it their own? That's restraint? China sent boats to their disputed island as well, although granted, not nearly as provocative as sending actual military. Visiting a shrine of all fallen soldiers, where most of the people are visiting to pray to their grandfathers... is more provocative than military takeover? I won't even mention them shielding burglars who raided a Japanese temple and stole Buddha statues. If resorting to crime, violence, riots, and military threat is your idea of "restraint", that's completely insane. You can argue about disputed territories or what you consider appropriate/inappropriate about the shrine visits all you want, it's a fair game there. But please, stop turning a blind eye to everything but what serves your purpose. No one (and yes that includes Japan) has shown restraints, certainly not the two nations you listed.
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2013-12-30, 09:38 | Link #32434 |
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Cost of Being Mayor? $650 Million, if He’s Rich
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/30/ny....html?hp&_r=1& Special Report: Japan's homeless recruited for murky Fukushima clean-up http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9BT00520131230 Insight: Italy's Chinese garment workshops boom as workers suffer http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9BS04D20131229
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Western nations like America needed Japan for the cold war, so they "forgave" Japan fairly early. Plus, countries like America never suffered the absurd amount of damages China or Korea did. Quote:
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Tokyo isn't getting firebombed, little Japanese girls aren't pressed into comfort women, Japanese men right now aren't used as force labors then cannon folder, Japanese culture isn't being systematically erased, and the unit 731 isn't cutting any captured JDF soldiers or random civilians for "medical research", no mass rapes in any cities in Japan at the moment. Despite Japan having disputes with Korea, China, Taiwan, and Russia, other than words, there haven't been any causalities on anyone's side.
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2013-12-30, 10:12 | Link #32436 |
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You repeatedly bring up WWII crimes as justification to crucify and hate the Japanese today.
Your... double standard of "overreaction" and what you consider "restraint" is completely subjectively "whatever we do is a-ok, as long as the receiving end are those inhuman Japanese pigs" biased. Riots on the street? Destruction of Japanese properties? Street beatings? Robbery of Japanese temples? Bringing Military to occupy the island in dispute? Bringing Military to threaten neighbors on sea? No one in their right mind considers these "restrained". You yourself said you're only playing the extreme card because "everyone's being mean to us". See, that is the WORST stance anyone can have in an argument. What you have expressed to me is, that because the majority disagrees with you, you must go extreme to tip the scale. This is the same argument people like FOX News make, and it is never credible, nor productive to convincing the other side. It's worse, if anything. Your insistent anti-Western and anti-Japanese expression doesn't even follow the same rules! You apply a different standard to your own side, justifying everything. Yes, everything. There's not one case of you not defending anything and everything. When your opposition have always admitted faults on their end, you have never once done so. Every hateful resentment is justified as long as it's against your "enemy". And I'm sorry, "because more people are picking on me" is NOT a valid excuse, please stop making them. I by no means see the Japanese stance as valid or justified. There's a lot of arrogance reeking from the right. However, for you to completely ignore everything and vilify one side and forgive your own side, is nothing short of hypocrisy and bigotry. There. It needed to be said, I'm simply tired of your continued hatemongering here on Animesuki. I refrained from touching the ongoing subject as I expect it to go nowhere, but your ongoing crusade in particular just needs to find a middle ground. I sympathize that you feel unfairly criticized, but assuming the extreme and turning to hate is NOT productive. If anything, you further alienate the opposition!
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2013-12-30, 10:53 | Link #32437 | |
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Your PM is the one who brought up World War II again by going to that Shrine. If that Shrine is what Japan consider to be "Remember their ancestors", to the rest of the Asia, it is "remember what those ancestors did."
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2013-12-30, 11:00 | Link #32438 |
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Wishing destruction on a nation of people is completely unacceptable, yes.
But so is justifying hate mongering of a nation of people. You're playing a Pot & Kettle there, rather severe case of double standards.
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2013-12-30, 11:13 | Link #32439 |
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Then make a thread for it. This has gone on far too long in a NEWS thread, not an anti-Japan propaganda thread. Which, I have to say, is hilarious in and of itself to see someone so adamantly anti-Japanese on an anime board who isn't just a troll.
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Obviously that isn't enforced anymore, but it was a crazy time when such insane rules are followed.
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