2014-08-10, 03:45 | Link #1 | |
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Japanese Government to Start Anti-Anime/Manga Piracy Operation
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1235745
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2014-08-10, 16:51 | Link #2 | |
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2014-08-10, 18:42 | Link #4 |
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Target Nico Nico...wtf
Sense not found. Considering Nico IS an official anime watching site.... And seriously...how are you going to target DDL sites? I mean, you can hammer them but how do you expect them to enforce? Unfortunately the games sections are being targeted too.. =.= This will end up hurting them even more. Everyone here should know that many downloaders also pour considerable amount of cash into actual stuff (books, merchandise, games etc) Cut off the primary source, people lose interest and that's it...forget about anyone buying anything...ever.
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2014-08-10, 19:09 | Link #5 |
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The big reason people pirate anime and manga is that there's no real way to legally watch it as it airs. Unless they sort that out for western countries then it's always going to be the same deal and also as Cosmic just pointed out, the people who watch anime via download usually buy merchanidse and stuff anyways.
Then again much like companies who target the piracy of games and movies, not much is really going to come to this as piracy exists and will continue to exist for a reason, it's impossible to stop and it's never killed an industry since piracy began no matter what the large companies say. You shut down one site and either a proxy will come up ala piratebay or someone else will start another service. |
2014-08-10, 19:25 | Link #6 |
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Attack on Titan producer George Wada stated during an interview in Germany that he'd rather that as many people as possible are able to see his works, when asked about the anti-piracy measures. So it is not as if everyone in the industry actually wants this.
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2014-08-11, 01:56 | Link #9 |
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The point of implementation means you get triple income. Sale of JP BDs on the home ground, and licensing fees from dubbers/subbers, and royalties from foreign market redistribution.
Someone loves money a little too much.
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2014-08-11, 02:03 | Link #10 | |
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So far, this seems to have only affected the Japanese (as I heard that a lot of the sites listed were blocked there), but with 5 months left to go, who knows what they'll try? I do believe it's been shown several times that piracy helps boost sales of physical media (more people get to see it, as compared to official sources), yet all the industry does is throw lots ans lots of money on fighting it, basically throwing it down a bottomless well. If anything is gonna kill the industry, that will, not the piracy itself.
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2014-08-11, 07:34 | Link #11 | |
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We all know that that kind of thing does not work in the real world because the market is too dynamic - it would be easier to see things from a demand approach where exposure to the knowledge of a certain good results in a market being created, rather than assuming that the market is already there in the first place. All in all, anime and manga still fall under the entertainment industry and each segment is a niche market itself - if I don't watch anime, I may be watching one of those American serials.
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2014-08-11, 08:28 | Link #13 | |
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2014-08-11, 08:59 | Link #14 |
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If they subbed the stuff as it airs or very quickly after it would help piracy. Another big help would be the cost of items to be lower. Most Westerners do not want to pay the price they pay for one set of bluray that has only 2 episodes instead of it being the whole series at that cost. Unless both issues change it wont stop anytime soon. Lets not forget getting light novels and manga translated. Our options for reading would be alot lower if people didnt translate for us and even then we still dont get to see/read all the stuff we may want.
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2014-08-11, 09:06 | Link #15 |
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There is also the "licensing" problem though. In Germany one would have to be stupid to make a crunchyroll subscription, because 95% of all shows are blocked because they were already licensed in Germany, though here they are far behind the simulcasts and censoring is the worst here.
To add to what I said about George Wada before: He also stated that he'd prefer even more if simulcasts were possible in all countries in their respective languages and at the same time. But of course as I mention that is not realistic at all.
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2014-08-11, 09:10 | Link #16 |
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I cannot believe this topic has only been created and brought up yesterday. The matter is two weeks old as of right now. At any point, it's a little bit funny how the Chinese were meant to be the main target of the operation. The Chinese and Japanese government were never really on good terms, so I highly doubt the former will accept any requests from the latter. I assume this movement will end up in a failure, but cannot say I would like all the websites to stay. Some truly deserve to be taken down, but it's hard to find an objective line and say "here is where we cut".
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2014-08-11, 09:33 | Link #17 | |
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We're just not a big fish in terms of content sharing anymore, just in content discussion. In a broader sense, these moves have been made before. I wouldn't sweat it too much. If you still don't want to pay for anime/manga, there will be places to get it. They just might not be so out in the open as they used to be, at least until things cool down for a bit. Like Saintess points out, these moves are done because of a poor understanding of economics, including consumer trends. It's an attempt to try and control a change in market forces that they don't really understand. They simply see each download as a lost sale, and they don't care, or at least don't want to understand, why consumers are abandoning their controlled channels in droves.
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2014-08-11, 10:32 | Link #18 | |
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Thisis the first thread that has discussed the overall event or action proper is all.
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2014-08-11, 11:22 | Link #20 |
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It's actually really tedious to post anything useful if you are restricted from naming the sites you specifically know the hip & happening about. In the end, it is what kills the potential highly informative posts on the thread. Rather ridiculous if you would ask me. Since that is the case, does this thread actually hold any more discussion value? The OP states it all, everything else can only be baseless speculations without taking any examples, which is basically running around in blind circles.
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