(L) Mushoku Tensei -Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu- [WN]

[Kyosuke_Nanbu]

He can use brute force approach because he knew everything to know about every style martial arts, every style of magic people can learn. And likely he fought every notable fighters in prevous loops so he can easily crush them

[laon]

Actually in a straight fight I doubt it'll go as well as it did, Rudy could only damage Orsted to that extend thanks to well played trap which wouldn't work twice and if they both go seriously now Rudy can't do anything with Orsted's evasion and since he can only damage him with serious AOE, he wouldn't be able to do anything and it would be one sided again like when Orsted goes into close combat range. Also, since Orsted didn't suffer any damage from trap+3 AOE he would have enough magic to recover if Rudy somehow managed to land a hit.

Now if it's future Rudy I'm not sure, he was even mulling about killing Pergius so matter-of-factly.

Originally Posted by Awrya

I think Rudeus mentioned somewhere that Pergius' familiars are all around king-class level, but not so sure about this one.

As for ultimate techniques of North God Style, I expect it to be something that manipulates touki.
Like creating a double with touki to make enemies sense and focus on the clone while the actual person goes in for a sneak attack.

I hope you didn't mistake it with my post here some pages ago lol, I don't think Rudy would know at which level Pergius' familiar unless someone told him about it.

That would be one underwhelming Ougi imo

[ReaperxKingx]

I am wondering why these Sword Gods are getting in the way in the first place? I understand the Peacock Sword Style getting in the way because he is eccentric, but the Water Style God probably had some knowledge regarding the entire situation. Why did she participate, she is suppose to be the most normal and calm among her circle?

[Kyosuke_Nanbu]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I am wondering why these Sword Gods are getting in the way in the first place? I understand the Peacock Sword Style getting in the way because he is eccentric, but the Water Style God probably had some knowledge regarding the entire situation. Why did she participate, she is suppose to be the most normal and calm among her circle?

She had connection with Darius but not clear what it is

Also, Sword gods seems to be Hitogami pawns since the first gen .it was almost impossible for them to survive with just luck as Rudy pointed out

[laon]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I am wondering why these Sword Gods are getting in the way in the first place? I understand the Peacock Sword Style getting in the way because he is eccentric, but the Water Style God probably had some knowledge regarding the entire situation. Why did she participate, she is suppose to be the most normal and calm among her circle?

Spoiler:

Partly because Hitogami appear to her (Hitogami has disposition to be believed easily by inhabitant of the world, except Rudeus and probably Nanahoshi) but mostly because Darius was her first love. She has loved him wayyy back when she was still a trainee, Darius saved her when she got into trouble with noble kids, she lament how he changed into a pig now though lol.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by Kyosuke_Nanbu

She had connection with Darius but not clear what it is

Also, Sword gods seems to be Hitogami pawns since the first gen .it was almost impossible for them to survive with just luck as Rudy pointed out

Originally Posted by laon

Spoiler:

Partly because Hitogami appear to her (Hitogami has disposition to be believed easily by inhabitant of the world, except Rudeus and probably Nanahoshi) but mostly because Darius was her first love. She has loved him wayyy back when she was still a trainee, Darius saved her when she got into trouble with noble kids, she lament how he changed into a pig now though lol.

Spoiler for Response:

I see then. I thought all of these high ranking fellows got their ranks by hard work and such. Kind of disappointing. Guess they helped Eris back then because her intention was to kill Orsted, but now knowing she switch sides, guess there was no hard feelings.

This increases my respect of Rudues' power, while he did have some teaching and help getting the Demon Eye, but overall, he got to where he was because he worked hard on it. Think he was 18 or 19 in age when that fight in Asura occurred. Compared to these others who has almost double the experience and combat record than he has. Rudeus aside, the human God probably helped these Sword Gods more than once a year to get their strength and a lot of years doing so.

Though I am wondering about if Izolte will be a new enemy considering her teacher got killed. Not sure about Gull Farion and Nina, Gull has connection with Orsted and trained with him. Nina sort of follows all his orders anyhow. They may returned soon. Now really interested to read volume 18 in full.

[Kaito Yamakage]

Holy Object OBTAINED~

Spoiler for chapter 3~:

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[Nihgthawk]

For all of the sword styles their is only ever one person at the God rank at a single time.

For Water God style swordsman their are five secret techniques and you need to master three of them to be considered God ranked. Reyda Liia mastered the two hardest of the five to learn and by combining them was able to use the sixth hidden technique Sword of Deprivation and this is why she is considered the strongest of the current Water God swordsmen. At the time of her death she was already over 60 and could only continue being a swordsman for a few more years.

For Sword God style swordsmen the secret technique is the Long Sword of Light. This is a skill most of the practitioners learn by the time they reach the Saint rank and from there its all about refining and mastering the technique and strengthening their swordsmanship to be considered for a rank up. Eris is officially at the rank of King in Sword God style but might actually be closer to the Emperor rank in terms of strength but chose not to take the test to see if she was because did not care about the title. The test she would have been given was to have a match with Ghyslaine and won.

As for how North God style swordsman are considered to reach God rank I have no idea since that has not been covered\translated yet.

[capablanca]

Originally Posted by CatRules

North God(北神)'s ultimate technique is called [北斗神拳].


by the way, how did Eris feel when she fight her former teacher?

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Spoiler for Response:

I see then. I thought all of these high ranking fellows got their ranks by hard work and such. Kind of disappointing. Guess they helped Eris back then because her intention was to kill Orsted, but now knowing she switch sides, guess there was no hard feelings.

This increases my respect of Rudues' power, while he did have some teaching and help getting the Demon Eye, but overall, he got to where he was because he worked hard on it. Think he was 18 or 19 in age when that fight in Asura occurred. Compared to these others who has almost double the experience and combat record than he has. Rudeus aside, the human God probably helped these Sword Gods more than once a year to get their strength and a lot of years doing so.

Though I am wondering about if Izolte will be a new enemy considering her teacher got killed. Not sure about Gull Farion and Nina, Gull has connection with Orsted and trained with him. Nina sort of follows all his orders anyhow. They may returned soon. Now really interested to read volume 18 in full.

Spoiler:

I don't think Hitogami has that much influence over the Sword Gods. So far, the only strong one confirmed on his side is Reyda. And even for that, she can choose her actions.

Izolte was there when Reyda was killed. At first there was the anger but then she's ok with Rudi, Eris and the gang after that.

The Sword God took in Eris because she was passionate about getting stronger, which is what all the Sword style aimed to be. It's more like Eris' attitude that allowed her in.

[Nihgthawk]

Originally Posted by Kyosuke_Nanbu

Also, Sword gods seems to be Hitogami pawns since the first gen .it was almost impossible for them to survive with just luck as Rudy pointed out

I do not think this is true. While it is true the some of the apostles of Hitogami are of the Emperor and God rank in terms of power that does not mean that ALL of those at that rank are apostles.

Spoiler for v18 ch12:

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Though I am wondering about if Izolte will be a new enemy considering her teacher got killed.

Izolte was sad that her master died but happy that she was able to die as a swordman in the current time of peace. She was also openly distraught when she encountered Reyda using the hidden skill for something as petty as assassination and after everything was finished she did not feel angry towards Ariel, Rudeus or Eris in fact she felt grateful towards Ariel for not having the dojo abolished since the head of the dojo had tried to assassinate her. While there is still a chance she could become an enemy in the future it is highly unlikely.

[laon]

Originally Posted by Nihgthawk

For all of the sword styles their is only ever one person at the God rank at a single time.

For Water God style swordsman their are five secret techniques and you need to master three of them to be considered God ranked. Reyda Liia mastered the two hardest of the five to learn and by combining them was able to use the sixth hidden technique Sword of Deprivation and this is why she is considered the strongest of the current Water God swordsmen. At the time of her death she was already over 60 and could only continue being a swordsman for a few more years.

For Sword God style swordsmen the secret technique is the Long Sword of Light. This is a skill most of the practitioners by the time they reach the Saint rank and from there its all about refining and mastering the technique and strengthening their swordsmanship to be considered for a rank up. Eris is officially at the rank of King in Sword God style but might actually be closer to the Emperor rank in terms of strength but chose not to take the test to see if she was because did not care about the title. The test she would have been given was to have a match with Ghyslaine and won.

As for how North God style swordsman are considered to reach God rank I have no idea since that has not been covered\translated yet.

Thanks for this, I don't remember ever reading the tidbit about the sword god style, where is it from? I'm afraid that I have missed to read a chapter or simply skimmed through one and left important info like this behind.

Originally Posted by Nihgthawk

I do not think this is true. While it is true the some of the apostles of Hitogami are of the Emperor and God rank in terms of power that does not mean that ALL of those at that rank are apostles.

I also don't think this is true, if it was Gull would have been offed by Orsted when he challenged him in his younger day.

[Nihgthawk]

Originally Posted by laon

Thanks for this, I don't remember ever reading the tidbit about the sword god style, where is it from? I'm afraid that I have missed to read a chapter or simply skimmed through one and left important info like this behind.

Chapter 143.5 Side Story - 'Birth of a New Sword King'
You can find the translation on Vanant's Pastebin page.

[Awrya]

Originally Posted by Nihgthawk

For all of the sword styles their is only ever one person at the God rank at a single time.

For Water God style swordsman their are five secret techniques and you need to master three of them to be considered God ranked. Reyda Liia mastered the two hardest of the five to learn and by combining them was able to use the sixth hidden technique Sword of Deprivation and this is why she is considered the strongest of the current Water God swordsmen. At the time of her death she was already over 60 and could only continue being a swordsman for a few more years.

Don't think I've read that, I remember that there were some Water God Emperors that have mastered at least 3 out of 5 secret techniques, but concede the title to Reyda because she has mastered the most difficult secret technique, which was the Sword of Deprivation. At the very least I don't remember it being mentioned that she created a 6th secret technique.

Originally Posted by laon

I hope you didn't mistake it with my post here some pages ago lol, I don't think Rudy would know at which level Pergius' familiar unless someone told him about it.

That would be one underwhelming Ougi imo

Not sure which posts you were referring to, but I think I read it around April or May when I finished up to the latest volume at that time.

I feel like North God Style is all about breaking the opponent's pace by including various tricks and seemingly random movements. Since they also specialize in touki manipulation, it just came to me, but that's just based on my imagination. We will probably have to wait until the author introduces the actual North God.
It's quite funny that the closest we got to seeing the North God secret technique was in the fight against Atohfe, but Rudeus made a sneak attack with Lightning when she was screaming out the technique.

[Dementrus]

Originally Posted by Awrya

I feel like North God Style is all about breaking the opponent's pace by including various tricks and seemingly random movements. Since they also specialize in touki manipulation, it just came to me, but that's just based on my imagination. We will probably have to wait until the author introduces the actual North God.
It's quite funny that the closest we got to seeing the North God secret technique was in the fight against Atohfe, but Rudeus made a sneak attack with Lightning when she was screaming out the technique.

Hahaha, Rudeus feel like a villain, even in tokusatsu film the enemies never attack when the mc saying his move

Originally Posted by Kaito Yamakage

Holy Object OBTAINED~

Spoiler for chapter 3~:

http://www.mangaumaru.com/archives/188634

Damn, i'm late to post that.

Originally Posted by capablanca

Spoiler:

No, Eris fought under Auber himself, to get used to the methods of the
North Style.

Ooo... That's right, thank you.

[Nihgthawk]

Originally Posted by Awrya

Don't think I've read that, I remember that there were some Water God Emperors that have mastered at least 3 out of 5 secret techniques, but concede the title to Reyda because she has mastered the most difficult secret technique, which was the Sword of Deprivation. At the very least I don't remember it being mentioned that she created a 6th secret technique.

It's more of a term of respect for the strongest that there is only one person ranked at the God rank at a time. As for the secret hidden technique I need to apologize a bit. Sword of Deprivation is one of the two strongest techniques for the Water God style and by combining it with one of the other techniques the final secret technique Deprivation Sword Kingdom is created. Here is a quote from a translation from a few pages back about this topic. It's a touched up machine translation but it still comes off readable so bare with me.

Spoiler for Quote:

Water God Style has five secret arts .
Water God Style Founder is the one whom created it , it’s strongest Mystic Arts.

If you can use three of the five of those move, you would considered as [God] rank.
Many of [God] rank disciple mastered till four move, but.......
None of those mastered all five of secret arts, other than the first generation of [God] rank of Water God Style.

Water God Reida Ryia also one of those example, she have mastered three secret arts .

She is an old woman .
Her prime time already long past, waiting to be declined with her old age .

Regardless of that, there is certainty.
About why she still held the name of Water God .
She is chosen for teaching swordsmanship in the Asura kingdom for many years.
And her position to her successor, a dozen years .
Why she was kept bearing the name of the [God] rank of Water God Style.

Was it because her talent was did not declined ?
It must be so.
Water God Reida was defunct genius that fail .
As never compares favorably with another [God] rank of the Water God Style in history .
But , just because , she did not had enough talent to win the old generation .

So, did not have some talent like the others?
That’s not the case .
Right now , those who have mastered the three secret arts of god of water style is only few number in the present .
But , why that few one didn’t take over Reida burden as [God] rank in Water God Style on her behalf .
they said they wasn’t suitable for that, said the one from [Emperor] rank in God of water flow. And entrust that position to Reida .

For some reason .

That’s because Water God Reida master two of the secret arts which is said to be most difficult.
By combining those two mystic arts, the phantom art is created, which can also be called as a sixth secret art.

『Deprivation sword kingdom』

She , left, right, up, and down from one posture .
From where she is, it’s possible for her to kill all her opponent in every direction.
It's possible that if we move even one step, we will be instantly killed.

[laon]

Originally Posted by Nihgthawk

Chapter 143.5 Side Story - 'Birth of a New Sword King'
You can find the translation on Vanant's Pastebin page.

Ah I see, that's why, I skipped all Eris' ss when I read ncode. Thanks for the tips, heading there!

Originally Posted by Awrya

Not sure which posts you were referring to, but I think I read it around April or May when I finished up to the latest volume at that time.

I feel like North God Style is all about breaking the opponent's pace by including various tricks and seemingly random movements. Since they also specialize in touki manipulation, it just came to me, but that's just based on my imagination. We will probably have to wait until the author introduces the actual North God.
It's quite funny that the closest we got to seeing the North God secret technique was in the fight against Atohfe, but Rudeus made a sneak attack with Lightning when she was screaming out the technique.

Nevermind then.

Oh yeah, she was about to use Ougi that time, I forgot. Rudy has fought lots of North God practitioner during Ariel arc so it's probably only a matter of time.

By the way, the current North God is definitely stronger Atohfe, since he's below Sword God in seven major power monument (aka dead last, still better than unnamed like Atohfe). And he's probably Atohfe's son too...


^@nihgthawk
I prefer 『Deprivation Sword World』

It rhymes better

[Nihgthawk]

『剥奪剣界』is the original text if someone wants to translate it real fast.

Also it's stated that Eris has reached Saint rank in North God style at the end of the Sharpening Fangs SS. Her teacher was Auber thou she was not particularly sad when he passed.

[laon]

Hakudatsu Ken Kai seems to be the romaji
Five of the seven TL machine I used agreed on "world"
Atlas think it's "field"
SysTran think it's "boundary"
Oh well whichever at least it get the point across anyway

I've just read ch 143.5, Longsword of Light is indeed an Ougi but he never said that there aren't any other... but since Gull Farion said to Eris that he doesn't have anything else to teach her I guess that's the only one in Sword God Style. Hmm but maybe if you can perfectly master LoL you can combine it with any style and every slash you make will be LoL, LoL combo, that'd be devastating.

[Nihgthawk]

Originally Posted by laon

I've just read ch 143.5, Longsword of Light is indeed an Ougi but he never said that there aren't any other... but since Gull Farion said to Eris that he doesn't have anything else to teach her I guess that's the only one in Sword God Style. Hmm but maybe if you can perfectly master LoL you can combine it with any style and every slash you make will be LoL, LoL combo, that'd be devastating.

You need to remember is that the Sword God styles main principle is to attack first with the strongest and fastest attack possible. Hence why the Longsword of Light is the only secret technique. It's simple but if you use perfect strength and perfect speed no one will be able to block or dodge it. In other words they are a one shot one kill style.

[Dormouse]

Originally Posted by laon

Hakudatsu Ken Kai seems to be the romaji
Five of the seven TL machine I used agreed on "world"
Atlas think it's "field"
SysTran think it's "boundary"
Oh well whichever at least it get the point across anyway

I've just read ch 143.5, Longsword of Light is indeed an Ougi but he never said that there aren't any other... but since Gull Farion said to Eris that he doesn't have anything else to teach her I guess that's the only one in Sword God Style. Hmm but maybe if you can perfectly master LoL you can combine it with any style and every slash you make will be LoL, LoL combo, that'd be devastating.

界 by itself has the semantic connotation of 'boundary' (and thus the meaning boundary is most correct), but depending on context in popular media, the meaning might be 'realm' or 'world'. This is especially true when it comes to chu2 stuff like skill names and the like (lol).

Also

Originally Posted by Nihgthawk

Eris is officially at the rank of King in Sword God style but might actually be closer to the Emperor rank in terms of strength but chose not to take the test to see if she was because did not care about the title.

I would wager that there's a possibility that Eris is at least at Emperor rank, as if I read correctly (been busy, havent actually double-checked ch143.5 yet) neither of the current Sword Emperors received 免許皆伝, but Eris did.

This either means:
1) She's literally 'completely mastered the Sword God school', whereas the Emperors haven't
2) The Emperors have also mastered the school technically(as in, in terms of techniques), and may or may not be stronger than Eris due to experience, but only Eris has shown the mettle/potential to become a Sword God

On the other hand, thus far in v18, there hasn't been any mention of a great difference in fighting potential between her and Ghislaine, so it's more likely to be the 2nd point.