2014-08-15, 12:05 | Link #3001 |
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Guys, I just reached the middle of vol8 and every time Rudeus fights all he does is use the damn rock bullet, can someone tell if if I'm gonna get to see him do anything different ? It's really annoying when he's supposedly proficient in all kinds of magics and has higher level spells..
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2014-08-15, 12:27 | Link #3002 |
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He will continue to use that for a while, his favourite magic is earth type, doesn't cost much MP, easy and fast to model, reliable on the battlefield.
Is like he have a invisible loaded anti-tank railgun always near him after all. He use fire magic more for making travels easier or a room more comfortable (manipulates heat), there is even the fact a fireball probably requires much control and the smoke on impact make the enemy hard to see for a while. He tried his hand with wind magic and flying but seems risky and it requires much focus so he don't use it much (I don't know if electricity magic is advanced wind magic or a separated set like gravity), seems like he doesn't like using wind blades, maybe wind is not very powerful. He used water magic for a while but seems like his favourite remains heart, ice bullets are probably less powerful (fragility) but he can actually freeze some enemies like if dropped liquid nitrogen on them. |
2014-08-15, 12:33 | Link #3003 | |
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Know how you always pick the most minimal and fastest skill to use on mobs over and over just to get rid of the small fry faster after you fight them for the 999th time? Rudeus does the same thing. If my level 1 fireball owns everything in 1 shot for 5 mana a pop there's no reason to use anything else.
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2014-08-15, 12:39 | Link #3004 |
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Except even against the demon lord he uses his rock bullet thingy and considers it his strongest move, I mean come on. It's really boring to read the fights when all he does is the same thing "i make rock bullet and i shoot it". What about making earth barriers to defend against things, or use wind to move quickly, he's not even using Advanced level earth magic. What's the point in being Saint class
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2014-08-15, 12:42 | Link #3005 |
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A question. The reason he didnt use rock attacks against hydra is because he didnt want to risk hitting his mother behind hydra??Cause even if it absorbs mana as long as he shot it from a safe distance now it is just a physical phenomenon.
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2014-08-15, 13:01 | Link #3006 |
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I decided to read Eris SS to get a better understand of her power level, but I sort of got confuse as what level she at in Water God Style? I know when she left the Holy Land of Swords, she was entitled king in Sword God Style, a Saint in North God Style and unknown in Water God Style.
Did she really didn't learn any techniques of Water God Style other then how to counter Water God Style? What about in the later chapter, when Rudeus decided to powerup himself with the help from Orsted, did Eris also level with his help? Also I remember read in spoiler that the Sword God gave Eris one of his sword and something else but when I read the chapter nothing else was stated other then his sword was given.
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2014-08-15, 14:34 | Link #3009 | |
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Magic only works at zero range. Technically I think it would only work if touching it (in which case its sharkskin would tear off your hand), but since they're cutting off the heads first, the fire then works from a bit more distance than zero on the cut skin. @Jiracher, normal mages in this world have cast times starting from five seconds going up to 30, 60, or even longer seconds just for a single spell. Rudeus is already absurdly strong just by having the capability of simultaneous casting + chantless let alone his mana pool. The techniques to make use of natural elements to improve physical capability don't exist in that world. Generally swordsmen are seen as much stronger than mages because of their use of touki for improved physical capability whereas mages have the cast time and chantless casting is basically a forgotten art. Magic is basically only seen as AoE high damage casters. Human bodies aren't like leaves that you can just send flying with wind to speed up movements. If you do it careless you end up breaking things easily, like Rudeus does in his flying attempts normal mages wouldn't even dare try what he did because it is basically impossible to cast magic for the landing while falling. There are some improvements he does in magic, lightning strike, rock bullet shot gun, magic armor, but those all happen mostly at once and they're so powerful he generally still just makes use of the rocket bullet or lightning after. This happens in volume 14-16.+
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2014-08-15, 14:51 | Link #3010 | |
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2014-08-15, 15:18 | Link #3011 |
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Remember Hitogami apparently has great influence on people of that world and while it might not be on the level of mind control it's at least on the level of high persuasion or giving them a push to do what he wants. ex. He asks someone to do X, Y or Z but he imply that he wants them to do Z. As long as Z does not completely go against the nature or ideals of the person in question they will pick Z. In Reyda case an impossible command to follow would be an order to give up the sword.
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2014-08-15, 15:31 | Link #3012 | |
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Also I'm not saying he should enhance his actual body, but use magic in more versatile ways, when he is being attacked he should be able to put up barriers like i said before, use spells from different systems and rank depending on the situation, it's just really really boring to know that whenever he fights all we're gonna see him do is spam some rock bullets, what is the point in learning any other offensive attack if you will never use it. When it comes to flying using magic, the reason Rudeus can't do it because it's super difficult and all is just an excuse from the author since he doesn't want him to have it, he wants Rudeus to spent months/years traveling around and having difficulties, if he had flying magic he'll be able to go anywhere he wants at a much faster pace while avoiding the people on the ground with whom he has these encounters. It's the same as to why our protagonist became a Saint Ranked magician in 2 volumes yet he doesn't go up by a single rank until vol14 or so, the author doesn't want him to become strong very quickly even though it really makes no sense for someone who reached such a level when he was 10 years old to not be able to get any higher for years afterwards. by the way, what is this magic armor, is it an item powered by magic or is it something created entirely out of magic ?
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2014-08-15, 15:42 | Link #3014 |
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His rock bullet is only Emperor-level in power which is amazing but he doesn't actually have a true Emperor level earth magic. And the problem I'm talking about isn't just about what spells he has, it's the fact that he only uses ONE spell in every single fight, I want variety, not just strength.
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2014-08-15, 15:48 | Link #3015 | |
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Long ranged attackers, healers, support, etc. It was also said that experienced magicians are desired in adventure parties. Why he uses rock bullet so much? As mentioned a LOT of times... Its efficient, he's good at it, power can be compared to emperor class (which is normally limited to aoe spells), and accuracy (you aren't going to use a wide aoe spell on your own party/teamates/friends). Flying magic - Even though Rudy could probably learn it, he doesn't know what situations he will get into and when he will need to use magic. Rudy had to rest for over a week to recover his magic supply after he fought with Orsted. Also why wouldn't he use teleportation circles, they are there for a reason.
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2014-08-15, 15:56 | Link #3018 |
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The reason he mainly started spamming Rock Bullet as his go to magic is practicality.
Fire magic would burn the target and thus destroy the items you could harvest from the body, plus there is the added danger of setting the surroundings on fire as well. Wind magic while fast does not have a lot of penetration power and up against opponents with even only mediocre defense it would take multiple hits to bring down. While water magic using the ice attribute would be the same as a rock it's comparatively more fragile then solid rock and thus less durable, I think it also has a higher mana consumption rate when using ice but don't quote me on that. Also getting the target wet can make the collection of some items harder or less usable, for example; killing a trent with water magic would make the wood collected from the remains wet thus less desirable as fire wood. Thus earth magic became the one he used the most because it was the most dependable in terms of power and collateral damage assessment. |
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And I don't remember anything about Rudy's magic supply after his fight with Orsted(if you're talking about the first fight when ofc he used a rock bullet), there was really no harm in learning it when he literally wasn't learning any other magic for from the time he became saint class until king class which was years. Quote:
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Sorry to ask again, can someone please tell me what is the magic armor ?
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