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View Poll Results: Higurashi Episode 8 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 57 | 41.30% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 47 | 34.06% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 25 | 18.12% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 4.35% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.45% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.72% | |
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2006-05-27, 20:04 | Link #61 |
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the end of chapter...that makes it 2 now. so the murderer this time was a "demon" because oishi said that mion also died on the well. oh! and i feel sorry for shion though. looks like she was physically and mentally tortured. and i got to admit, keiichi was hit by a rock, stunned by a taser (although im sure that's not deadly) and then survived being stabbed. i wonder if he also did survived the nail/hammer combination thing
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2006-05-27, 20:30 | Link #62 |
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Ok, I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here... Let me say first, I've read as many of the TIPS and faq's and various boards as I dare, not wanting to spoil things too much. I've never played the game and have no knowledge of this premise before the anime. And I respect it - it's extremely well-made - ridiculously smart, incredibly creepy, and fascinating. 'nuff said. BUT...
Am I missing something, at some level? I mean - what this appears to boil down to is watching likeable young characters, who get four episodes to endear themselves to you, die horribly in various different scenarios. From a purely calculating prespective, sure, I could see where this is interesting, and trying to figure out the various mysteries has appeal. But doesn't watching basically decent kids get tortured and hacked to bits over and over - and knowing it's coming every time - sink to the level of masochism? I mean - I just don't enjoy that. I appreciate all the wonderful elements that go into the mix, but in the end, where is the pleasure in watching it happen? Like I said, maybe I'm missing something here. I'm certainly no prude when it comes to violence. What it boils down to, for me, is finding a reason to convince myself to keep watching... Last edited by Guardian Enzo; 2006-05-27 at 21:12. |
2006-05-27, 21:09 | Link #63 | |
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2006-05-27, 21:19 | Link #64 |
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Well, it does and it doesn't. I guess I'm just wondering if anyone else is feeling this same conflict I'm feeling. Yes, it would make a difference knowing that there was a payoff at the end that justified what went before - that this wasn't just random horror for the purpose of intellectual masturbation. But even if there is, am I the only one wondering if it's worth the trip?
Take K1 for example. A perfectly normal teenaged male - basically decent, acts stupidly from time to time (ep 8 comes to mind), doesn't have much in the way of social skills. There's no poetic justice in seeing him die repeatedly in horrible ways - in no sense does he "have it coming". And the fact that the series is so well-written actually makes it worse - if these weren't believable characters, there wouldn't be the same emotional impact. But the tone of the series towards K1 and his agonies seems almost voyeuristic to me - almost gleeful, and probably gratuitous. |
2006-05-27, 21:42 | Link #66 | |
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As is, the show will end with the 6th arc, which answers some questions, but will not provide all the answers. From this standpoint, I can only assume that the ending is probably going to be the equivalent as what we're seeing now until the end of the show. The 8th arc has not been released yet, so who knows what's going to happen there. [Edited] I just wanted to mention that KJ was nice enough to open arc speculation threads for Watanagashi and the first one (can't remember). Maybe we should start moving our speculation and theories over there. |
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2006-05-27, 21:44 | Link #67 | |
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None of this excuses extreme violence so like other's have said it's certainly up to you whether to continue watching. If nothing else this series is certainly a huge departure from most formulaic anime out there today. Perhaps comparing this series to other Asian horror movies where there's less overt violence and more psychological/traumatic horror (think A Tale of Two Sisters) and contrasting with american horror would explain it a bit better. Of the Asian horror films I've seen the crux of the plot is usually some extreme emotional trauma which imho has a way stronger impact than any slasher/bloody violence. |
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2006-05-27, 22:02 | Link #69 | |
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Two good points were just made - one, we don't really know if K1 is "normal". And since he does seem to be at the center of each of these decidedly abnormal scenarios, it's a fair question. That would be a "point" I suppose, but it still doesn't answer the question of whether watching a basically nice (as far as we can tell) boy get filleted several times while we wait to find out is enjoyable. Second point - this probably does bear comparison more with Asian horror films than any anime. "The Audition" springs to mind for me. And indeed, even if you admire those films, watching them is a sort of masochistic act. I guess it depends on what your tastes are... |
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2006-05-27, 22:05 | Link #70 | |
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Well, thanks, and I hope you're right. Only one way to find out! |
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2006-05-27, 22:40 | Link #71 |
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Spoiler for more thoughts on Mion/Shion, ep8, and the arc:
The only thing that bothers me about this theory is what reason could Shion possiably have for wanting to take Mions place during the festival? Plus what about the Demon within Mion who's been carrying the will of Oyashiro for the past 5 years? And didn't the very same demon announce that if Keichi had only given Mion the doll from the beginning the demon "everything might have been all right" and the demon probably would have stayed dormant within her for a bit longer? Mion obviously prefered for the demon to stay asleep because she cares about Keichi and she wouldn't want the demon to hurt him. Leading Keichi into the warehouse would ALSO put Keichi in danger of the demon so Mion would definitely not allow Keichi to go into the warehouse knowing the demon inside her would be out for his blood. This makes it more likely that it was SHION who let her curiousity get the better of her and she wanted to drag Keichi with her. Therefore it makes sense that Shion the one who was the most likely suspect to have gone into the warehouse with Keichi would disappear, instead of Mion who KNOWS going in there with Keichi would be more of a reason for the Demon INSIDE OF HER to kill him.
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2006-05-28, 00:01 | Link #75 |
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Interesting. He seems to have come to the same "Shion is the real Sonozaki heir" theory without help from the "Onee" clue.
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2006-05-28, 00:20 | Link #76 | |
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2006-05-28, 01:46 | Link #78 |
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10/10. For resolution issues.
Well, the only thing I can say, is, that either Mion was a zombie in the hospital and killed K1, or the idiot was allucinating. BTW, Kei chan, you are an idiot. |
2006-05-28, 02:06 | Link #79 | |
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