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2016-05-04, 05:30 | Link #24 |
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I agree. Also, this episode I found her particularly cute in general.
And she even talked about her relatives (that part was a bit clumsy if you ask me, but due to Hayate usual jerkness toward her). she doesn't seem to much affected by that after all. I agree that the fact is mostly that she cares.
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She's sort of like those boyish girls who are really bad at talking feelings / being soft and adorable but their insides are made entirely of marshmallow ;w; ...I guess what I'm saying is, I really want to eat Mirage hue |
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2016-05-04, 14:10 | Link #26 | |
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I like to assume that means the question must have been burning on her mind and she was anxious to know the answer. *creepy laughs like Freyja |
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2016-05-05, 04:37 | Link #27 |
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Mirage reminds me of Gamlin Kizaki, who is one of the most moe characters in a Macross series. Really looking forward to seeing other sides of her; the scene in the OP where she's alone in her bedroom already hits my moe weakness.
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Mind you unverified info. Got it from /m/ which I managed to trace to 2ch. Supposedly from a anime magazine.
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2016-06-12, 15:39 | Link #31 |
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Already answered this question, but if you need a damn time stamp: Episode 6, 5:50. When everyone else is kicking back over beers and bitching about what hardasses Messer and Mikumo are, Mirage is still back in the training center letting Messer harass her one-on-one. There is your example (and granted it is the only one we get, because seeing that every damn episode would be boring), so you can stop saying that we 'never see her put in any effort.'
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2016-06-12, 15:58 | Link #35 |
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That is not what counts as her 'development' because that is indeed pretty thin on the ground; it is, however, a minimally sufficient rebuttal to your constant harping that Mirage never shows effort to become a better pilot as compared to Hayate and Freyja's shining examples of struggle and triumph. She doesn't just mope and feel sorry for herself while other characters strive to better themselves, as you have repeatedly claimed. She just doesn't get any screen time to show to showcase her efforts. So yes, she hasn't made a mark for herself in the story thus far, but it's not the character's fault for lack of trying.
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2016-06-12, 16:10 | Link #36 | |
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I'm not sure what they'll do with her if Kawamori believes she has no skill in piloting because of some ridiculous genetic excuse. What's the point of all this then? The hard working and determination angle does not work so well when it was never something they made emphasis on this. And now, a few second scene isn't "emphasis." I think the worst decision they could have done with her character is making her a fellow pilot if they wanted Hayate to be a special ace kind of character because that means she cannot match or overshadow him, if she does, she'll be killed (like Messer). Freyja didn't have this issue because her storyline served as parallel which complemented Hayate's, while Mirage floating around without any direction so far and that's bad writing. (There's the follow your heart's content storyarc that could salvage this but I'm no longer optimistic about how they'll develop it). It's not just about her personal growth: They didn't even let her showcase other bonds or deepen other relationships besides Hayate's. The scenes she had with Kaname were just exposition of Kaname to her. While Freyja had Mikumo (and her people) and Hayate had Messer (and Delta Squad in general). Secondly, what also hurts her is that Delta is intesily a plot-ridden show (Frontier was more character-focused one, IMO) and she doesn't really contribute so far to the main plot like her co protagonist future Keith's rival and Freyja. So this hurts whatever storyarc she might have.
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2016-06-12, 16:26 | Link #37 |
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I don't think she's written abysmally. The writing just didn't get around showcasing her yet. There's been an awful lot of things going on in Delta so far, and frankly I'm not blaming them for not focusing on Mirage who was in no position to influence anything so far.
I keep believing that her character arc will start now that Delta squadron has to pull itself together to make up for the loss of Messer. Hayate has already said he'll work extra hard; Mirage will also have to pull her weight even more. One likely possibility is that she'll be either inspired by Hayate (and maybe Freyja) to overcome her insecurities, or maybe she'll get depressed and do the "wah poor girl has hit rock bottom" thing before being inspired by Hayate to overcome her insecurities... (you get the picture ) She's a Jenius girl, no way they'll keep her playing second fiddle. (As I said before, if the show settles the triangle I'll be surprised if Mirage doesn't end up with Hayate. Pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless.) |
2016-06-12, 16:50 | Link #39 | |
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I have no doubt Mirage will end up with Hayate but so far her entire character is "love interest". She doesn't exist or barely exists outside her role as love interest and that's the problem (that includes her relationships outside of Hayate are stagnant). It doesn't really help that some magazines announcing how Freyja and Hayate will mature after this foretell that Mirage's grand change is that she... will become more feminine and that pisses me off the most. It's like her entire purpose of existence is to be a love interest. Looks like a waste when they could have recycled a Walkure for the triangle if they were going to ignore Mirage outside of this aspect. Here is a chance for her to improve and show off she's a Jenius, but we have Kawamori dismissing her skill and other interviews telling us how she'll become more like a girl. Okay. Great. Let's hope the show does focus on other aspects and relationship of Mirage.
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2016-06-12, 17:04 | Link #40 |
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Mirage isn't written badly per see. Her scenes are about showing her as a lonely character, that's why she barely interact with anyone. Episode 10 and 11 put even more emphasis on that.
Also, I don't think Mirage is going to be inspired by Hayate and/or Freyja. They aren't pushing her at all (like Hayate/Freyja did in the early episodes), they don't even seems to be trying to understand her actually. |
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