2016-07-29, 01:17 | Link #2201 |
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The more I follow the DNC, the less democratic thing the whole process seemed to be.
I means I assume the whole idea of primary process is to have the delegates from each states coming to the convention to represent the people/ vote for the party nomination? Isn't that the whole idea of delegates? To represent the people of their states? Back when there is no internet and phone and such? So once it finish, the delegates of all states can iron out the difference and work toward the same goals? Instead the delegates roles were degenerated to the role of spectators, where voice was not heard (literally the only one speaks, is of the party establishment) just so it can be propagandized into mainstream media. They literally just there to legitimate the already set process. And any attempts against will be kicked out under the pretext of "political party is private organisation". Sure but the private organisation acting in the name of public representation, isn't that a scam? Oh, well at least thank to that we found some brilliant creativity. For example this is what happens when you prevent people to bring signs into the convention:
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2016-07-29, 03:37 | Link #2202 |
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Political parties are not officially part of the democratic system of the United States. In fact, the US of A was created under the assumption that political parties don't exist. The result is that you end up with a Two Party system because the rules did not prevent it.
This is why primaries and conventions are undemocratic; it was never suppose to be. The convention was suppose to decide who to be chosen as a candidate, the Primaries are just a way to get legitimacy from the voters. This is only a bigger deal now because social media allow voters to have a voice, because back in the bad old days even if your chosen candidate was swindled out of his nomination, you would have no way of knowing.
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2016-07-29, 04:20 | Link #2203 |
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It would be a good thing is Senat or future president ( we can only wish ) were to change laws regarding that after this elections are over.
I remember the similar problem was with Roosevelt. He was selected time and time again because during his time there was no real limit on how many times you can be elected as president. Only after his death Senate decided to fix it to today's two mandates ( 8 years ). Electoral process can be changed in similar way. Creating new laws to fix all the faults and holes in the system. |
2016-07-30, 02:57 | Link #2208 |
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Why This Election Proves Politics Are About
To Get Weird: "The iPhone was a weird new invention when Barack Obama was first running for president in 2007. MySpace utterly dominated social media; no one had heard of Twitter. Netflix was a company that delivered DVDs by mail. The box office was dominated by a Marvel franchise, a bombastic Zack Snyder movie, and a movie about somebody called Jason Bourne. It was a simpler time. When you see how radically the landscape has changed since then -- and how radically it seems to be changing on a week-to-week basis now -- it's actually hard to guess what the presidential campaign for 2024 will look like. But, having spent these last two weeks on the ground at both party conventions, I'm ready to give it a shot:" See: http://www.cracked.com/blog/a-glimps...ture-politics/ |
2016-07-30, 07:01 | Link #2209 | |
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2016-07-30, 07:33 | Link #2210 |
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Although people often forget that 11% of American muslim support Trump which is record highest since normally 96%-98% of them vote for Democrats, three times than 2012 and five time higher than 2008.
Not pandering to them is a good choice for Republican candidate. |
2016-07-30, 18:06 | Link #2211 |
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The American Autumn:
The Trumpification of the Establishment >> "Trump isn't running a campaign, he's running an open source insurgency (see my earlier article on this) that makes him nearly immune to personal attack, and it is working. He has secured a whopping 7 points (47 to 40) lead over Clinton in a recent national poll by the LA Times/USC -- despite the fact that nearly EVERYONE in the media, academic, government, and political establishment is working against him. This loss of control has infuriated the establishment, leading to increasing levels of paranoia, hyperbole, and anger (particularly in the media). In short, the establishment is starting to act increasingly like Trump does -- exaggerating and amplifying everything." See: http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/...-election.html =========================== It’s Not Just Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders—The Whole World Is Turning On Its Elites: "By now, it’s undeniable: America’s frustration with political elites is upending party loyalty. And now, this phenomenon is taking on global proportions." See: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ts-elites.html Last edited by AnimeFan188; 2016-07-30 at 19:03. |
2016-07-30, 20:01 | Link #2212 |
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...s-soldier.html
(Sings) How low.. can he go?! And in slightly brighter news... https://www.thenation.com/article/th...orth-carolina/ |
2016-07-30, 20:08 | Link #2213 | |
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And it's comically predictable how he makes it immediately about his achievements.
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2016-07-30, 21:51 | Link #2215 | |
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He knows nothing about the world in general. He always had that silver spoon stuck in his mouth (if not far up where the sun doesn't shine) for 70 years. Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2016-07-30 at 22:58. |
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2016-07-31, 07:08 | Link #2217 |
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Well, I dont know how the most die-hard supporters of Trump can even spin it. I did have a little sympathy for the man weeks ago. But shitting on a war veteran or relatives of fallen soldiers? That's off-limit for me who do have respect for the army and ppl who enlist there to put their life on the line.
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2016-07-31, 07:35 | Link #2218 | |
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"Captain Humayun Khan was a hero to our country and we should honour all who have made the ultimate sacrifice to keep our country safe," he said. "The real problem here are the radical Islamic terrorists who killed him, and the efforts of these radicals to enter our country to do us further harm." http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36935175 Trump will need to be more judicious with his words in order to tread the fine line between politically incorrect versus being an asshole. There's still a tough uphill slope to the White House, Donald.
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2016-07-31, 09:13 | Link #2219 | |
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I can understand why Khan's speech touches a chord with people born more recently than me. It touched a chord with me, too, but somehow my reaction was less profound than hearing Mrs. Obama talk about living in a house than slaves built. (Incidentally, I was surprised by the backlash against that statement, since I knew it was historically accurate. Apparently I was in the minority. That remark also led to some ridiculous white-washing by Bill O'Reilly who commented that the slaves were well housed and fed.) In the Stephanopoulos interview, Donald Trump felt compelled to attack Mrs. Khan for her silent appearance at the DNC. "If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me." The couple appeared together the next night on "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell," where she said she didn't even try to speak after seeing the photograph of her son just before the couple's appearance knowing she would break down in public. Mr. Khan credited his wife for much of this speech and said she kept him from taking an even more negative tone toward Donald Trump than he actually did.
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2016-07-31, 11:33 | Link #2220 | |
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And I can't see anything about shitting the relative, since he obviously don't have the power of mind reading. |
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