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View Poll Results: Danganronpa 3: Despair Arc - Episode 9 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 2 | 28.57% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 3 | 42.86% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 1 | 14.29% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 0 | 0% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 14.29% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2016-09-08, 16:40 | Link #21 |
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what happened with reserve course mass suicide? it isnt happening yet?
nothing new in this episode, how boring. also it feels weird that izuru just spouting how boring right at the very beginning. why cant they just dedicate 1 episode for izuru doing normal life, something, anything else besides fighting with matrix speed for a year or something before going with his how boring stuff
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2016-09-08, 16:45 | Link #22 | |
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As for that Junko- Juzou fight I already refered to that having happened back when some people mistook Junko for Chisa in that scene (I still don't know how they did that); Which furters my point as to how Junko could actually stay undercover if she didn't do some huge cover up such as the minderasure or him possibly being on her side. Otherwise she would have never managed to stay in that school. Then again, they are timeskipping so much I can barely guess where the story is atm. Sometimes episodes are mere hours away from one another sometimes weeks or months. The only thing you can really say right now is that they are somewhere in the 78ths fist year, or possibly early second. Anyhow Mukuro made it rather clear in IF that Junko being the Despair leader or a despair to begin with was everything but common knowledge.
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2016-09-08, 17:08 | Link #23 |
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The idea that Yukizome fell to despair isn't really a bad thing in and of itself. My main problem is I'm not seeing any of this Danganronpa magic. Where's the plot twist? Where is the mind screw? I'd better have a moment of conplete confusion in two weeks or less or I will be severely disappointed.
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2016-09-08, 17:24 | Link #24 | |||
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I'm sure Despair side (or even Future) is going to cover what's relevant to Sakakura and Munakata, but they're not going to rehash much of Zero with 2 episodes to go. As far and the board and such, its like I said -- DR0 already covers that story. At the end of the day its a prequel to existing canon; Anakin Skywalker is going to turn into Darth Vader, Kerry and Saber are not going to win the Holy Grail War, and so on. Quote:
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2016-09-08, 17:32 | Link #25 |
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So in episode 5 Yukizome told Hinata he's not worthless because he had no talent, but called her time in the Reverse Course the worst of her life? Hmm...
Is time to go rewatch episode 1 of Future. She's obviously on it all. To what extent, I don't know. |
2016-09-08, 18:21 | Link #26 | ||
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Otherwise Munataka wouldn't let her be with the rest of the class. They can't even just outright overvote Munataka as Mukuro heavily implied no one knew about them. (I put the heavily in bold her, because the statement pretty much amounts to a ccertainy.)
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2016-09-08, 18:39 | Link #27 |
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See, this is why sometimes I think people have got selective memory. I just checked DR and SDR2 to see if I could find some of Junko's super anaytical performances.
And I didn't find anything. What instead I did find are things that fall in line with her character in the Despair arc. She had always resorted to cheap tricks to induce despair. Never once she used direct action like talking into people's mindsets. Just create opportunities and telling lies. DR: Amnesia, with motives such as threatening loved ones or telling secrets. SDR2: Amnesia again, which had among one of the things that caused someone to start to kill a disease in the form of a computer virus (Mikan). Junko has never persuaded anyone into believing her ideals. She doesn't use words to bring down others. In fact, if she were to use that, it would put her character at odds with what was established in the previous games. Therefore her methods are totallly valid. Her meeting with Mitarai also explains how much later she came up with a method to erase memories. For some of you it may feel cheap, but that is how the writers intended for it to be and you must accept it. And you better not rebut this, else you would be going against what was established in the VN. |
2016-09-08, 18:57 | Link #28 |
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Well, I'm officially on board with this whole brainwashing thing. It's way more interesting than I thought it would be and actually makes a lot more sense than Junko slowly mentally breaking everyone like I thought. The brainwashing doesn't actually change their personalities, instead by inserting those rods into their brains, it actives pleasure senors while watching the video of the student council murdering each other. This in turn makes their minds associate death and despair with pleasure, and there's nothing they can do to resist the urge. I honestly like this a lot more than the other theory. I've never really bought that the DR2 cast would fall to despair simply by Junko breaking them mentally. Characters like Gundham and Nekomaru are both simply too strong willed and would never break that easily. But Junko messing with their minds to make them associate despair with pleasure? Yeah, I can get behind that.
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2016-09-08, 19:06 | Link #29 |
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I'm actually not sure how I feel about the brainwashing thing.
Handled a little bit better than it is here (with more of a focus on how the combination of brainwashing techniques plus the horror of what's being shown produces an intense, negative emotional reaction in people -- which is what they're going for, I think, but it's coming over more as 'lolz magic video'), I could probably quite like it as a plot point, but I feel like it's been kind of mishandled. In general, I also think Junko's character has been somewhat mishandled. It's very much playing her up as someone who's very childlike and over-the-top, and while Junko does act like that, we can see in Danganronpa 1 that it's kind of just a smokescreen. Also, while Junko definitely does resort to underhanded tricks to get her way, when she's in control of all the variables, she is demonstrably good at persuading people around to her viewpoint -- after all, she very nearly managed to persuade Hiro, Hina, Byakuya, Toko, and Kyoko around to it in Danganronpa 1. Weirdly, I almost think that Future side is handling the whole despair thing better, because Munakata has clearly fallen to despair, that's been very obvious for a while now, and it feels a lot more subtle, like the inevitable conclusion of all the horrors he's been put through.
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2016-09-08, 19:07 | Link #30 |
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I just got major Bioshock flashbacks from this episode after seeing the reserve course student unflinchingly killing himself despite clearly not wanting to. The brain can be a really scary thing.
Even though Chisa's seemingly acting normally at the end of the episode I think it's pretty clear that she's no longer like she was before. Gives the "Chisa is the culprit" theory in Future arc even more weight behind it. If that's the case I'm not disappointed, if anything it just makes me pleased with myself for figuring it out before the reveal.~ Also even though it may not even be his real face, it's cool we have a face we can associate with the Ultimate Impostor now that doesn't already belong to another character.~
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2016-09-08, 19:21 | Link #31 |
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It makes a lot of sense Junko wouldn't be able to convince a normal person to come over to her way of thinking without giving them some sort of reason. Junko only acts and thinks the ways she does because of her super analytical abilities. If she didn't have that talent, she herself would be a completely normal person. Thus it makes sense she has to screw other people up just like she is to get them to follow her.
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2016-09-08, 19:52 | Link #34 | ||
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2016-09-08, 20:46 | Link #35 | ||
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The setting and the world surrounding it is still the same. So Munataka knowing about her would have been a serious issue in DR 1.
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2016-09-08, 21:04 | Link #36 |
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Idk how about feel this whole brainwashing plan in general. Seems kinda flat coming from someone like Junko even though she is one of my favorite characters in the series.
Poor Chisa though...that must of been painful. The ending seems weird, I really wonder what happened and if she was released? When she was tortured earlier, Chisa sure looks like she was submitting to the despair. Really having doubts that she is normal. Also, that scene gave me Spoiler:
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2016-09-08, 21:14 | Link #37 |
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Unless it's another AI Junko, I really can't see how she could have survived. I mean, leaving aside how I doubt she'd do her execution by half-measures, her dead body was literally picked apart and transplanted into other people. We know somebody tore out her reproductive organs, and another person took her hand, and we can guess that thirteen more of her body parts (at least) were taken. Would there even be anything left?
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2016-09-08, 21:16 | Link #38 | |
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We're not going to see eye to eye but at most I think Chisa is a parallel to Mukuro if she had any involvement in the game. But at this point I think its more likely she had nothing to do with the game at all, and just died sort of tragically by someone who was familiar with her past. And despair!Nanami is going to be amazing with so much buildup. |
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2016-09-08, 21:24 | Link #39 | |||
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He didn't misunderstand it. You got your facts wrong. It's class 77 that became Ultimate Despairs. Class 78 is the focus of the first game and the one Makoto Naegi is in. |
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