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View Poll Results: Re:Zero - Episode 25 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 20 | 28.57% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 31 | 44.29% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 14.29% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 4.29% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.86% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 2.86% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.43% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.43% | |
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll |
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2016-09-21, 23:04 | Link #121 | |
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But yes, Rem's straightforwardness is very appealing when set against the sea that is Tsunderes in anime |
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2016-09-21, 23:54 | Link #122 | |
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So, Emilia is more like Emiya Shirou, and Subaru is more like Rin Tohsaka who just can't leave Shirou alone .
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2016-09-22, 02:40 | Link #123 | |
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2016-09-22, 03:45 | Link #124 | |
et tu, brute?
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I wish i can upvote your comment, exactly this, I mean i understand that Emillia is the plot girl, the main heroine, but with how the Anime progress you can't exactly deny why Rem is beating every heroine in every polls everywhere. Hence why i thought the ending was forced because of the way Anime portray the dynamic relationship between subaru and rem better than subaru x emillia. episode 15 basically cement Rem as one of my favourite heroine of all time. I have no idea what happened in re zero web novel all i have is anime as my source, so i stand firm with this notion for now, and surely many people also share this judging from the polls.
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2016-09-22, 07:30 | Link #125 | |
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I don't see how SubaruxRem is strictly better than SubaruxEmilia. Preffered, yes, buy hardly a foregone conclusion this early on. The relationship between the two the pairings aren't writien to be developed in the exact sameway. It's not like Subaru hadn't interact with a lot Emilia with good chemistry either. Those two get along very well up to episode 13. So I don't see how the ending is forced anyway outside shipper bias. Espeically when one of themes of post "From Zero" was Subaru reconciling his relationships and redeeming himself. He and Emilia also parted ways on a really emotional note that consisently huanted them since then so it is entirely fiting that they reunion in turn was another one. I get you and others like Rem a lot, but Subaru has always had relations outside of her. Her love and devotion (which was recent) was merely directed at him regardless of how he felt, so there was nothing promised to her. And in the end it's not as if the story is telling you to stop liking Rem anyway. Last edited by Applehell; 2016-09-22 at 09:01. |
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2016-09-22, 09:21 | Link #126 | |
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You can call Rem your 'best girl' all you want, I'm not going to contest you on that. The problem is when a guy is apparently an asshole or idiot for falling in love with someone else. Imagine you knew a girl who was really nice and loyal. And you think your male friend would be a perfect match for her. But he's already in love with someone else. What kind of friend would you be if you keep getting on their case for "falling for the wrong girl"? And if you do not see Subaru as a friend... Then what does it even matter who he falls for? |
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2016-09-22, 09:38 | Link #127 |
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Yea, it's more of a case that Subaru falls in love with Emilia before he even meets Rem. Things like that happen. It's not like after Rem's confession, he can just turn a switch and move his love-o-meter from Emilia to Rem. It's totally understandable why he still loves Emilia, given that he basically latched onto her the way Rem latched onto him.
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2016-09-22, 11:06 | Link #128 | |
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I read a lot about Re:Zero's final episode and i guarantee you i'm not alone in my view. A lot of people disliked the anti-climatic happy ending that was clearly not one of the series strong points as i explained in my previous post. In this forum, however, it seems everyone liked it except some hardcore Rem shippers for the obvious reasons |
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2016-09-22, 19:31 | Link #130 |
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That's maybe because i don't feel frustrated or cheated at all towards such endings. I already knew what to expect. This and NGNL were meant to be just a way to promote the LNs and therefore everyone knew the anime would be unfinished. Even if there is no season 2 and even if the story does not end in a cliffhanger or some teasing into future content, you would still get an incomplete product no matter what. The last episode was far from making me feel any closure towards Re:Zero's story since too many questions were still walking around and too many things still needed to be explored. Ending as a cliffhanger or not would be the same thing regarding that aspect to me. However, with something else besides the typicall boring happy scenario at least the strongest point of the series would appear once again one last time. That's my type of endings and it has nothing to do with frustration. Actually, i realize now that i feel frustrated and cheated because that did not happen . So i kinda understand how people like you would feel if they didn't like the series finale. That's why it's impossible to please everyone but i just wanted to share why i feel this way... nothing else.
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2016-09-22, 20:36 | Link #131 | |
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I was not watching a romantic slice of life story about Subaru and Emilia. I was watching a twisty portal fantasy that had a lot of questions for the viewer to think over. I got almost zero answers. Why is Subaru in this world? What exactly was the mystery behind the first shots? What is the witch exactly? What is her connection to Subaru? Why do Puck and Emilia have that kind of contract? Does Julius have a similar one, if not, why not, how does it work in their world anyway? Why does she look exactly like the witch (and no, being a possible vessel is not the answer). Why does the witch keep bringing Subaru back when he is energetically opposing her plans? What are her real plans? What about the assassin who liked guts? Who hired her? What’s the deal with the Dragon? I could go on. Pretty much none of the questions--including those poised by the very structure of the script--got answers. The open ending is so open three White Whales could swim through it. For me, the ending is ruined not because I'm a LN reader (I'm not), but because I didn't get any answers to the questions that hooked me into watching the anime. When a story piles up secrets and twists, revealing them is a big part of its resolution. Quoting a comment from a reviewer's blog--it's like we were watching a mystery and never learned who the murderer was. Same with the worldbuilding, we get hints and glimpses here and there but they are never gathered into a global picture. |
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2016-09-22, 23:27 | Link #132 | |
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I give credit to the author for establishing a rich enough basis for the narrative that White Fox and its production staff could get to a proper stopping point without resorting to an "anime-only ending." What White Fox accomplished here was a good demonstration of how thorough production planning can be used to produce a quality series. |
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2016-09-22, 23:29 | Link #133 | |
et tu, brute?
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do i even scratch or point out that I hate subaru because he love emillia? this is getting ridiculous mate, again you prefer emillia, I dont see a problem with that, all i said based on the anime alone, which in my opinion (again i stress its my opinion) does relationship part of rem and subaru better than subaru and emillia. thats all im saying, i dont see why you and applehell gets so.. um i dont know the word except triggerred with this? if me pointing out Rem destroying female characters popularity polls is an annoyance, then accept my apologies. I still dont see why the two of you needs to be abit passive aggresive on this.
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2016-09-22, 23:32 | Link #134 | |
et tu, brute?
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cmon people, chill
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2016-09-23, 00:08 | Link #135 |
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This is little better than a shipping war. The important detail is that there is a valid in story reason why Subaru became attracted to Emilia in the first place. There justifiably is a good reason for Rem too, but that was not the author's choice. Is that choice better or not? Hard to say. Subaru went to hell and back because he wanted to save Emilia. The basic character motivation is not there otherwise and we wouldn't really have the story we did have here.
There is also a big gap in the screen time department between Emilia and Rem. It makes sense why most viewers like her character significantly more. You have an underdeveloped character who (in her own words) hasn't really done anything for Subaru versus the person who will actually sacrifice herself for him. Emilia has been kept more mysterious on purpose it seems.
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2016-09-23, 03:10 | Link #136 | |
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Ok lets start with pointing out that I never actually mentioned my preference, so you saying I prefer Emilia makes me wonder if you paid any attention at all to the things I said. Also if you have any example of me being passive aggressive, please quote me because I have no clue what you're talking about. I'm also not sure what gave you the idea that I am annoyed by Rem destroying female characters in popularity polls. I was merely confused (and still am) at the fact that this somehow means that Subaru being in love with Emilia is a crime. |
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2016-09-23, 07:32 | Link #138 | |
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I'm not being passive aggressive with you. I'm merely stating the fact regardless of any external factors (Rem's popularity etc) from the series itself Subaru had other relationships that had been buliding beyond just Rem. The story never lost sight of that. If it did then the entire series would been different from the start. |
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2016-09-23, 07:47 | Link #139 |
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Before y'all go and get this thread closed, one thing that I'm interested in is, before Betelguise possessed Subaru, he told Julius to remove his spirit from him, was this because it would have been dangerous for Julius and his spirit, or because Subaru didn't want him to maybe somehow figure out what was going on?
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2016-09-23, 07:50 | Link #140 |
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I agree, those are legitimate grievances. I think Re:Zero has a problem of scale. It's obvious that the writer intended it to be an epic like Game of Thrones or something from the start. A true ending would be a resolution to whatever mission Subaru was sent to this world for, and to the royal selection. All other goals that Subaru has had are just stepping stones to that, and can't really make for a proper ending. And in the way we have the witch's cult, of which only 1/6 has been addressed, some kind of subplot hinted at by Elsa in the beginning, and actually dealing with the other candidates which has barely begun. And it's reasonable to assume that the TRUE story will be even greater in scale. There is a real possibility that in anime form, the story will always remain unfinished. So I'm not sure how I'm supposed to rate it. Sure, the season got some kind of ending, but if it ends here I can't really recommend it. It's like if the LOTR movies were cancelled after the first one. Yay, the hobbits made it to Rivendell! What a great ending! Not. If it ends here, I'd have to conclude that the show sucks.
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