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Perfect 10 | 6 | 11.11% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 7 | 12.96% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 6 | 11.11% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 12.96% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 11 | 20.37% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 3.70% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 6 | 11.11% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 6 | 11.11% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 1.85% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 3.70% | |
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2016-09-25, 21:43 | Link #83 | |
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[QUOTE=Thess;5952231]It was a triangle. Just largely one-sided like Frontier (minus competitive heroines).
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2016-09-25, 21:48 | Link #84 |
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As other mecha franchises get better, more mature and consistent , Macross on the other hand just devolves more and more with each franchise, being a macross fan since the age of 9 and having watched or read every single macross related product released I begin to realize that the show (especially the TV series) are becoming no more than an commercial for the new "shiny VF" toys and merchandise being produced, and that the cycle repeats repeats every 4 or 5 years (this is very evident after Macross Zero which is by the far the best of the franchise in recent years).
If Kawamori-san is unable to write a coherent story he should have delegated the job to someone that could, he is a brilliant mecha designer but not so much a writer / script, please bring back Ohnogi-san for the script . I stuck with the show because of my loyalty and love of the franchise, but while watching Macross Delta i couldn't help but repeat in my mind "What are you guys DOING to Macross!!!" the entire season had 3 good episodes and 1 "acceptable" Good episodes: Episode 1 : the introduction of the characters, the big reveal that the Protoculture seeded many races in the galaxy and that Humanity is not unique as "the children of the protoculture" (although a similar idea was introduced in an OVA for Macross 7 but not to this degree. Episode 10: Messers death Episode 19: The big reveal , the "lore" of the macross universe advanced by 0.000001% that day. The "acceptable" Episodes Episode 25: the penultimate episode , Mikumo reveal , music is a weapon etc etc the rest of the season had so many holes in it would make cheese feel ashamed. forgettable "entry" into the franchise at best. Quick Edit: if there is another 26 episodes (season 2?) then this entry is still salvageable , otherwise the above holds. Last edited by Kokojin; 2016-09-25 at 22:02. Reason: extra entry |
2016-09-25, 22:19 | Link #87 | ||
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There were a number of things I wanted to write about this episode, but then I just lost the will since this series have been too 'meh' for me . So I guess my sentiment about this last episode boils down to this:
Is it a good episode on its own?: Yeah......you can say so. Is it a good ending for the series?: No way. Absolutely not. Quote:
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2016-09-25, 22:44 | Link #88 |
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Just after episode 12, I was really excited to drop $300 for the DX Chogokin VF-31 without a second thought.
Now....I think Macross Delta is somewhere barely above Macross 7. Macross Zero, SDF Macross and Macross Plus are still the best in that order. I agree that the Mecha design, music, and overall world building was great; but the triangle and the ending were just awful. |
2016-09-25, 23:37 | Link #89 |
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Why couldn't they have kissed? Why couldn't Macross Delta have just given us a kiss? Is that really too much to ask? It shouldn't be, as Frontier had at least one kiss!
Man, why is anime so freaking gutless in recent years? Sigh... And why did we need 5-to-10 minutes of Roid's bizarre universe-brain of Ange Vierge-level nudity? Good grief... What a gutless gutless ending in just about every way. Romantically and war narrative-wise since apparently Heinz is completely forgiven for everything... I might feel better after I watch this episode with subs, but right now, I feel so letdown. Delta could have had the super-duper romantically satisfying ending and/or it could have had a Windermere rightly gets BTFO'ed ending. Or it could have had "Freyja ultimate hero who gives her life to save the universe from Roid's madness" ending. Either of these, or any combination of them, could have lifted this show back up and made it something truly special again. But no, Delta picked the safest and least memorable option there is...
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2016-09-25, 23:53 | Link #90 | |
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2016-09-25, 23:57 | Link #91 |
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Hayate confessed his love to Freyja (where all Galaxy could hear) and vowed they'll be always be together. I'm not a shipper of them, but honestly don't you think that's a step above a mere kiss? Frontier had the "You two are my wings" ending and
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As for Windermere. I have not enough smug faces and "I-told-you-sos" about the outcome of this. I'm not sure why so many here just completely misunderstood Windermere as they did with the Vajra. If the focus of their pityfest was pushed through the entire show.
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2016-09-26, 00:04 | Link #92 | |
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As for Windermere... Heinz has the blood of thousands on his hands. He really does. He simply doesn't deserve a happy ending. Heinz's final scene in this show shouldn't be one of him looking peaceful and content, if not happy. I think that sends an absolutely terrible message. Windermere did loads of absolutely monstrous things that you and other people here kept downplaying over and over again. Don't you think they should pay some price for that? Feel and express some actual regret over the horrible things they did?
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2016-09-26, 00:25 | Link #93 | ||
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The ending was set up in the last episodes. I'm not sure what you guys expected when the main characters, namely Chaos, only wanted Windermere to stop, not to defeat them or 'punish' them because of the guilt they felt for what happened to them. Hayate and Freyja, the protagonists, were never cruising to 'punish' Windermere. Freyja got all she wanted. This was the outcome she desired and fought for. Again you're focusing on the so-called suffering of background fodder that aren't even characters and missing the point that the female protagonist of Delta wanted this ending and fought for it. She announced it in like episode 12. Losing the sight of Freyja's goals to glorify or put as more important what the feelings of noncharacters that never did anything (supposed people of Voldor, Ragna and other planets in an exercise of false outrage and projection) was the mistake of many who expected something that wasn't going to happen. If it happened, it would mean Freyja would have failed (and Hayate too).
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2016-09-26, 00:25 | Link #94 | |
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2016-09-26, 00:33 | Link #95 | |
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wow i didn't know some people had a calculator in hand while watching the series, I should be more careful in the future. at least we agree on the awful writing. ps (how does a vf stay 90% in fighter mode and 20% gerwalk? is it due to the dimensional wave effect? or some new technology?) |
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2016-09-26, 00:40 | Link #96 | |
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Loads of characters were clearly suffering badly from Windermere's horrible actions. The anime made this crystal clear multiple times. Nameless or not, we were shown these characters being put through a truly terrible situation by brutally villainous and warmongering Windermere. This should not be dismissed the way this finale appears to dismiss it. As for Freyja, she wanted peace, and an end to the warfare. That is not incompatible with Windermere's leadership (including Heinz) being held accountable for their horrible misdeeds. At the absolute least, we should have been shown a deeply regretful and apologetic Heinz.
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2016-09-26, 00:41 | Link #97 | |
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2016-09-26, 00:46 | Link #98 | ||
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Besides, if they did, it'll be the repeat of what drove Windermere to do this in the first place. Call me crazy but all that the last episode hinted (I mean episode 25) was to finally end the cycle of hatred. That could have only happened if Heinz took this decision. To actually expect some sort of 'punishment' as you and others wanted would destroy the message and core theme of the show. Check last episode thread, a number of us pointed it out. Beqa's posts are specially good. Quote:
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2016-09-26, 00:54 | Link #99 | |
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