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2016-11-09, 04:44 | Link #1762 |
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Well this is just downright a scary result for the world. People so desperate to attack the status quo that they probably screwed their country over worse than any election in American history. The history books are going to love this one.
Going to be a long four years for just North America in general. Well America made their call. A horrible choice between two horrible options, but they still managed to pick the greater of two evils. My condolences to everyone living down there that didn't vote this crazy result.
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2016-11-09, 04:45 | Link #1763 |
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Well screw you America. Screw you. You wanted this, so when the inevitable happens and this falls apart remember this.
You asked for this hot mess. This is all on you. I haven't been this disgusted in people in a long time.
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2016-11-09, 04:48 | Link #1764 |
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I'm actually just going to sit back and laugh if (when?) Trump actually does exactly none of the things he claims he will do to make America great again, and in the same vein does exactly none of the horrifying things the fearmongers claim he will also do.
Like I said before, I honest to god do not think he will make the alleged sweeping changes attributed to him, and I also honest to god don't think this is the end of America as we know it. To me it's all just one big showman shitshow for the votes. If in the next week America doesn't go down in flames to the proverbial plagues of Egypt at the same time he backs down on his campaign promises I won't bat an eyelash. Status quo ftw.
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2016-11-09, 05:05 | Link #1766 |
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I am bummed for my cousins who have NEVER subscribed to the SJW and identity politics nonsenses and are feeling that they are punished for this bullshit. Otoh, I am going to have fun watching the leftist media having a meltdown and a taste of what Golem their hubris have helped to create.
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2016-11-09, 05:09 | Link #1767 |
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So, it begins
I remember 8 years ago when Obama won and during his lost Speech John McCain actually silenced a man who booed Obama Things are changing for the worst and it's happening fast, the wolrd economy is already entering a crisis not seen since the attacks on 9/11 and this is just by him being elected. People just voted for a man whose election was considered a joke by the rest of the world since he launched himself, who based his whole campaign in fearmongering and hate on minorities. Story never lies, this same scenario has alredy happened in so many other countries and in none of them ended well. People decided to do a protest vote against Hillary and decided to Put a failed bussines man surrounded by scandals with zero political experience in charge of the United States of America instead. But I guess America just wasn't having Hillary as president. I may not be american nor live in the United States, but I'm concerned about this, like it or not, the USA economy affects the whole world and the fact that this guy who failed a steaks bussiness wants to put his hands in the FTA just foreshadows gloom days ahead, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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2016-11-09, 05:18 | Link #1768 | |
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What a day! A lot of issues to cover.
As I've mentioned in the past, this result is not necessarily ideal for the conservative movement in the long term because the next four years will feature a VERY tough economy regardless of which candidate is in the White House. If things don't work out over the next four years with the Republicans having majority in all three arms of government, then conservatism will be finished after 2020. Losing one of the three houses (preferably not Congress) would not have been too problematic. Onto Trump. My take on him has been that he does not care about governing - only winning. Getting into the White House is probably nothing more than something for him to scratch off the bucket list after the various achievements (if they can be counted as that!) he's attained over the last 70 years. There were rumours that Trump offered Kasich the most powerful vice-presidency in history, in which Trump would simply be a figurehead while allowing Kasich to run the show behind the scenes. My view is that now that he's won, he will simply let Pence and the Republican Congress run the show, which imo isn't necessarily a bad thing. This result pretty much ends the last political dynasty in USA. The Bush dynasty ended in the primaries, and the Clinton dynasty ended today. Meanwhile, Bill Maher made a very telling speech a few days ago, in which he admitted that the media "cried wolf" about previous Republican candidates by completely tearing up perfectly good and honourable candidates in McCain and Romney. When you cry wolf about good people, nobody will believe you anymore when the real wolves come in. In terms of international ramifications, I agree with the earlier posters that Merkel is going to have to shift her position. Her party actually lost the elections in her home state, and the anti-establishment movement has boiled over in the UK and US. Germany will be next unless Merkel moves to the right. Lots of uncertainty in the EU as well, because as mentioned above, Trump simply does not care. There's been rumblings that Putin's next step will be to annex Ukraine next, possibly some time in the next year. If Trump can't be bothered to get the US military involved, then the Baltic states will be quaking in their boots. On that topic, note that the core foundations of the US differ substantially from Europe. Dennis Prager had an interesting podcast on this issue. The core values of the US are written on US currency: Freedom; In God We Trust; and E pluribus unum (from many, one). With Europe, freedom is replaced with egalite (equality); In God We Trust with secularism; and E pluribus unum with multiculturalism. For example, having freedom means that the process allows you make your own choices and you get to keep most of the fruits of your success while conversely being responsible for your own failures. Egalite, on the other hand, prioritises equality of outcome and not equality of opportunity. Both systems have their trade-offs, and there's no one-size-fits-all solution that fits all countries. One issue discussed earlier is that of healthcare, namely Obamacare. Let me start with Milton Friedman's insightful summary. Quote:
Aside from that, I don't buy the whole doomsday rhetoric with so many of my facebook friends calling it the end of the world. It's a rainy evening here in Australia, and the sun will still rise tomorrow morning, just as it will also continue to rise tomorrow in America.
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2016-11-09, 05:19 | Link #1769 | |
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I mean sure, we could go through two terms of Bush and survive relatively, but it's not exactly something you want to go through, nor was this election's result an inevitability or something we absolutely needed Bernie to avoid, much as I like the guy. |
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If Obamacare gets dropped, then what? It would be all back to square one with those in need suffering from having to pay so much money in insurances to those vultures known as insurance companies. edit: Has no one expressed the main concern about climate change here? That is one of my biggest concerns because a lot of effort has been put in to sign that agreement, and I can only imagine what kind of permanent damage Trump would do as much as Stephen Harper did when he pulled out of the Kyoto Protocol (the bastard). Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2016-11-09 at 07:11. |
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2016-11-09, 07:37 | Link #1776 |
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I see a lot of people saying that Bernie would have won this election. Yet none of them had predicted how strong Trump would show up in the end. Sure they were miffed that Hillary got the candidacy but the vast majority of them believed that she'd win in the end nonetheless. Hindsight is 20/20.
The sentiment of white supremacy helping Trump is there because it's true. This does not mean that every white person in America is like that but the support from that group was undeniably huge. It's a worrisome trend. And worse these groups will be back in full force for the next election cycle because Trump's victory makes them believe in their mindset. Also the mentality of those who voted Trump being either a) 'don't worry it won't be as terrible as you think it will be. Still terrible but not so much. or b) 'Let's make America great again. We don't know how but it will be awesome. or c) 'It will be so fun to watch Trump hack away at all the things that we worked on the last eight years' - tells a long story. The democrats have a long road ahead of them. They're not the bigotry party that the republicans have become but the implosion at this year's election was partly due to their failure to present both themselves as well as their candidate in a respectable light. Republicans on the other hand will do whatever they want at least for four years until they'll realize that things actually haven't changed for the better. The wake-up will be harsh indeed when the bubble pops. |
2016-11-09, 08:01 | Link #1777 | |
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One of the major things that led to Trump being successfully elected was, SURPRISE, radical leftism. The modern media and society are plagued with extremist politically correct messages that are blatantly hateful and disrespectful towards whites and white males. Young whites growing up in modern USA are fed up with this demoralizing garbage that tells them the message that they are bad or sinful simply for not being part of a just minority. Of course at some point there was going to be a backlash, and they just chose Trump as their representative. These kinds of people didn't stop to think if Trump was really going to be beneficial for them, they chose him as an act of fighting back against the outrageous politically correct society that has alienated them over the years. The countless accusations from the extreme left demoralizing all Trump voters as being sexist or racist white supremacists just made it worse. |
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2016-11-09, 08:11 | Link #1778 | |
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US Election 2016 Results: Five reasons Donald Trump won.
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2016-11-09, 08:20 | Link #1779 | |
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2016-11-09, 08:23 | Link #1780 |
Me, An Intellectual
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You know (as a non-American), all throughout the election I entertained the thought that a Trump win would be interesting and amusing, but now that it's actually happened I'm actually a bit frightened...
My faith in humanity just keeps going lower and lower and lower...
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