2006-07-07, 20:16 | Link #22 |
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The poneglyphs are collected in a sequence to become the Rio Poneglyph, the combined message of all of them is the Rio Ponelglyph itself.
One Piece is another thing, I posted a huge theory on what is it in the 'How did Roger get captured?' thread: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...6&postcount=22 If anyone is going to discuss it please go back to the Gold Roger thread and not carry on over here. I don't want to set off an off topic train lol
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2006-07-07, 23:55 | Link #24 |
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There's no doubt in my mind that Luffy is going to fight Shanks at some point, but I'm almost just as sure it won't be the final battle. Remember we still have three Warlords left, anyone of them could be Luffy's final opponent. Also Whitebeard or Aokiji could be Luffy's final opponent, we still have many pieces of One Piece left. However I agree with the previous post, when you are fighting a world wide battle with one goal you have friends who help you along the way and then you have enemies who get in your way, once there are no more enemies to fight, friends will become enemies, I doubt Luffy would spend his entire life finding One Piece and then step aside and let Shanks have it.
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2006-07-08, 00:18 | Link #25 |
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Well that is understandable however I can envision a scenerio where he fights Shanks after he beats our mystery challenger...Conversly I could see a scenerio where Whitebeard or whoever beats Shanks to death and Luffy witnesses it making him overflow with hateful emotion, which in-turns helps him beat whomever that is...
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2006-07-08, 00:34 | Link #26 |
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The problem with what you say is that other then fighting for the hell it (mock battle), Shanks and Luffy have no reason to really seriously fight eachother... Shanks simply enjoys the freedom of the pirate life; he has shown no intrest in One piece or anything that would draw the two of them into actual conflict... not to mention the fact that Shank's likes to avoid unnessasry conflict...
teacher vs student is very common... however, it comes in one of two ways, a friendly fight where there's nothing to really loose (not exactly the most exciting fight), and then there's the battles where the two are unavoidably forced against eachother (very suspenceful and very emotional, makes for a great fight)... For Shank's and Luffy, any conflict for them would be the former, since they have no reason to really go against eachother like in the later... As for Shank's powers... swordsmanship... Shanks rivaled Mihawk in might but overall comes second to Mihawk (since Mihawk is the one with the title)... So when we talk about Shank's skills, we're more then likely talking about someone with a lot speed, strength, agility, and some kickass swords moves... I do see some potential in a Zoro vs Shank's fight though... I mean, how can Zoro turn down a chance to test his own might against someone who rivaled Mihawk... if he can't beat Shanks then he can't beat Mihawk... Lots of conflict can arise from this... Luffy wanted to stop the fight because he cares about both of them, and Zoro reminding Luffy what he said back when he first joined up, that Luffy must never do anything to get in the way of his dream... some great emotional conflict there... its true that there would be great emotional conflict with Shanks vs Luffy, but only if its a serious unavoidable fight, which again, i see no reason for... |
2006-07-08, 00:36 | Link #27 | |
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Now you're thinking, I could totally see that happening as opposed to fighting Shanks. |
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2006-07-08, 00:57 | Link #28 | |
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You don't think Shanks might want to see how much his protege has progressed?? I mean it's one thing to hear stories and read bounties it's another thing to see it for yourself...Shanks from what's implied in the anime is a legendary pirate in his own right and while he may have a happy-go-lucky attitude that doesn't mean he can't change emotions...Hell Luffy's the prime example of this...No ones more happy-go-lucky than him and he's a beast during battles...I think Shanks is getting marginalized a bit, we really don't have anyway of knowing Shank's interpersonal motivations in life...He didn't become a great Pirate by just walking away from every fight and the World Government considers his team one of the biggest threats...While Shanks is pure-hearted (much like his protege) that doesn't mean he doesn't kick ass and I mean major ass when he has to...Finally him being second to Mihawk in swordsmanship only shows one aspect of what he may be able to do...If he has a special power or devil fruit ability he may pose more propblems than just swordfighting (which if he is only behind Mihawk he's fucking incredible)... |
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i certainly hope he doesn't have a devil fruit... same goes for Whitebeard and Mihawk... Seriously, not having devil fruits but still ranking amongst the best makes them so much more hardcore... |
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2006-07-08, 02:03 | Link #31 | ||
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Well devils' fruits makes the show for me...I have no probs with that...I have an understanding of how more credit goes to those who don't posess one but for me it's all about seeing different powers and abilities and the techniques one can achieve even given the percieved limitations of that power...Anime allows you to do this and that's what I love seeing what power they can come up with next...One thing I love about One Piece is that people with devil fruit abilities don't necessarily use their abilities as one would think they would...Alot of deepness in-terms of techniques used...
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Getting back to my main point, Luffy fighting Shanks at some important moment involving One Piece (and it's finality) is something I look forward too and see no impossible hurdle to jump in terms of it happening...It seems really natural to me...and even if by the sliver of all slivers it was for the hell of it, there'd still be a symbolic value to the fight which is just as rich... Quote:
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2006-07-08, 12:00 | Link #32 |
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i wonder if we'll see a fight between luffy and someone with the "gomugomu fruits weakness" power ... (dont know what it could be like any ideas ??)
like the enel Vs Luffy (where luffy had the fruit with enels weakeness) just to see how luffy would over come it ?? enel sure figured out how to combat it when he fought luffy - could the luffster do the same ? |
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Mihawk, doesn't go around terrorizing innocent people. He wiped out Don Kreig's fleet. Don Krieg is a man well know to terrorize villages, through any means nesscery. Krieg got what he deserved. His crew was not innocent. And i don't see how Shanks was Luffy teacher at all. He never taught him to be a pirate. Luffy learned a thing or 2 by Shanks actions and that was all. I do not ever see Shanks becoming Luffy's enemy. Quote:
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And anyway, its not like Luffy isn't able to be hurt. You only need to give a powerful punch amongst other things. |
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second, the flashback doesn't really tell us that devil fruits are important to Shanks... he only has been shown to have found one and we don't know how he came to get it... it could be that he was purposely hunting for it, but more then likely he probably just came over it by chance while hunting for treasure... And we are not sure what he was planning on doing with it, though if he really wanted to it he probably would have done so sooner... my guess is that he was either saving in for his crew if they wanted it, or he was planning on selling for a hefty price... though the reason he reacted the way he did when Luffy ate the fruit wasn't because he was worried about the fruit, he was worried about what it would do to Luffy... Spoiler for manga:
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If Shanks does still have some unfullfilled dreams, then i doubt it's one piece, cause as i've said, he has never for a moment shown any consideration of going after it and becoming the pirate king... If shanks is involved in anything though, i would say it is "the will of D"... hence his concern to Whitebeard over Ace and blackbeard (two D's on the verge of clashing)... grant it, that could definatly bring him too Luffy eventually, but don''t see how it would force them into conflict |
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2006-07-08, 15:04 | Link #37 |
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Ok there's no doubt in my mind that Shank's has some kind of dream, after all dreams is the theme of the show. However take this into consideration if Shanks doesn't raid, if he doesn't pillage, if he doesn't fight unneccesarily, then what the hell is he doing?
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I wrote: Lets get this sorted out. Mihawk, doesn't go around terrorizing innocent people. He wiped out Don Kreig's fleet. Don Krieg is a man well know to terrorize villages, through any means nesscery. Krieg got what he deserved. His crew was not innocent. Quote:
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How-ever that we do not know. I guess we'll have to wait. I don't recall Shanks ever wanting to go after One Piece. He already knows Whitebeard is going after it. Unless he is confident he can beat the Old Guy- i can't see him going after it. We do not even know that Shanks want to be PIRATE King. Quote:
I WROTE: I don't see Shanks as Luffy's teacher at all. He never taught him in anyway. Luffy learnt a thing or 2 about what a real man is, from the way Shanks conducted himself in the face of being attacked. And as for Shanks making Luffy wanna be a Pirate, i dunno about that. Didn't Luffy want to be a Pirate long before he met Shanks? Quote:
I WROTE: You don't neeed Luffy's devil fruit weakness to be able to beat him. Admiral Koji showed that when he utterly Pwned him. Smoker owned him so easily. Mr.1 if anyone has Luffy's natural weakness and that is to blades/sharp objects. Quote:
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2006-07-08, 15:21 | Link #39 |
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Right now there are a lot of guys that can and have owned Luffy in fights, does anyone think Luffy's gears are gonna play a major part in his development, because I'm at a loss as to how Luffy is going to beat any of these guys in the future. Maybe there's going to be a timeskip or something, because even with the gears Luffy is going to get his ass kicked often going against the remaining Warlords, the Navy, and Whitebeard.
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