To Aru Majutsu no Index LN - New Testament Volume 19 Discussion / Poll

[Marcus H.]

Christ. NT19's Prologue alone got me sweating like Yamisaka Ouma.
Kamachi, you never fail to throw everyone off.

[bakato]

It's only a preview and things are already blasting off.

[DragonXX]

Originally Posted by OH&S

Preview translation is up and things are already off to a crazy start with the windowless building being launched into space, a new grimoire just for Mina Mathers being made and battle between Aiwass and Coronzon.

Now that we know about how these being need hosts to use there full power I am guessing the reason Index was made to have 103000 Grimoire and most likely more to come is to make an Ideal Host for Coronzon.

Why do I think that baby may also be a host for Coronzon which mean that in case Lola body was destory this mean Hamazura need to get that baby away from Rikou or she going to become a host for Coronzon.

[dniv]

Okay, that was really cool.

Spoiler for preface and prologue:

This is getting super exciting. Also, I'm pretty sure they referenced the movie there at the end of chapter 1 when they were talking about the limitations of magic on earth. And then I'm pretty sure Kamachi referenced something from NT 10 when he mentioned the extraterrestrial thing. I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. I CALLED IT HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Looks to be an amazing volume. Can we please get 5 more seasons of the anime so I can watch this someday?

Holy F* that was just the prologue. I'm in heaven right now.

[DragonXX]

Originally Posted by dniv

Okay, that was really cool.

Spoiler for preface and prologue:

This is getting super exciting. Also, I'm pretty sure they referenced the movie there at the end of chapter 1 when they were talking about the limitations of magic on earth. And then I'm pretty sure Kamachi referenced something from NT 10 when he mentioned the extraterrestrial thing. I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. I CALLED IT HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Looks to be an amazing volume. Can we please get 5 more seasons of the anime so I can watch this someday?

Holy F* that was just the prologue. I'm in heaven right now.

Also we learn more about but Aiwass is and Coronzon said it is basely a mass of energy does this mean that all Angel and Demon are mass of energy is this the answer to what Angels and Demon are in this series.

It give us a greater understanding of what the wings on Accel are and what LVL6 would do to an esper.

[salamander750]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Christ. NT19's Prologue alone got me sweating like Yamisaka Ouma.
Kamachi, you never fail to throw everyone off.

Uh, what do you mean by that,

[dniv]

Originally Posted by salamander750

Uh, what do you mean by that,

Lol none of us saw his plot twist coming. Didn't think that that was the first thing that was going to happen in the prologue , not even directly in the main meat of things.

[LazyHunter]

Aiwass can be surprisingly helpful when it wants to, it was nice of it to save Mina from Coronzon like that. And as I expected, Touma having to deal with that Aleister possibility is going to be fun. Despite being the prologue there's already some interesting tidbits. I guess Aleister being able to use up some of his possibilities to fuel his magic might be how Kamachi will eventually deal with so many of them running around the world. And Aiwass being described as a possible alien turned out to be important, like Aleister's description was in the last volume.

[KiharaRonin]

Fun preview. Easy to predict what'll mostly happen.
-Aiwass vs. Coronzon in space in the Between the Lines. Aiwass will die or at least be defeated. Coronzon will take a new vessel upon returning to Earth in order to hide from Aleister.
-Touma will learn about Coronzon from Aleister. The two will attempt some scheme to hurt it and it will appear to succeed but it will still be alive. By the end of this Arc, Aleister will stay with Touma to continue his experiments.
-Touma's friends will try to find him with Misaka and Misaki learning more about magic.
-Hamazura will have to protect a baby from Accelerator who for some reason sees him as his enemy. Miniskirt Santa Takitsubo will get involved. Hamazura will have to protect both. The baby will be important somehow. Poasibly, Lillith or part of some project.
-Aleister will kill off some of the Possibilities for her magic.
-Fran and Tsuchimikado will find out about the Possibilities attacking the British Commonwealth. Touma's desire to protect people will draw him there. Of course, Misaka, Misaki, Index, Othinus, and Maika will want to come with their loved ones. Aleis-Tan will probably want redemption. Accelerator and Hamazura will be drawn along too. Probably wanting to get rid of Aleister, the man who used them, once and for all. Touma will keep Aleis-Tan's identity hidden from them.
-By the end of the Arc, Academy City will probably be under new management.

[Seafoam]

Wouldn't Aiwass dying defeat the whole purpose of the volume to find his core? The preview made it seem that Coronzon is helpless once removed from the Earth.

[KiharaRonin]

Originally Posted by Seafoam

Wouldn't Aiwass dying defeat the whole purpose of the volume to find his core? The preview made it seem that Coronzon is helpless once removed from the Earth.

True. Coronzon can't use Lola's Magic. The volume makes it seem she and Aiwass are at level. Also, and i feel stupid for asking this, but what exactly is mean't by "find his core" anyway?

[Seafoam]

The core was mentioned back in OT16 (the volume Kamachi said people would go back to someday and find some sort of foreshadowing apparently) at the end. Between that and the end of NT18 when Aleister mentions it to Touma, it means Aiwass probably has a core keeping him binded to the world because he doesn't have an avatar like Coronzon does with Lola. Without the core he probably either gets sent back to the Aeon of Horus or can't materialize since it seems he doesn't like taking people's bodies.

[KiharaRonin]

Oh sorry forget about that. Haven't re-read OT16 in awhile.

I still think Coronzon will survive this Volume.

[shmaster]

My volume has not arrived it.
But Kamachi is already rasiing my expectation.

I truly hope, I truly truly hope that htis volume will be Aleister's trail in crossing the Abyss.
In Thelema, for a 7=4 to ascend into 8=3 and become a secret cheif, the person must cross the Abyss and overcome the temptation from Coronzo.

Aiwass pretty muched declared he'll guide Aleister down his desired path, and the stage is set with the 10=1 itself stalling the thelema demon in the space.

Please, it is about time for Aleister to begin his crossing of the Abyss.

[Seafoam]

I hope Kamachi goes full Thelema. Seeing the panic of Christianity and the other pantheons as a new one rises (an interesting one at that) is something not often found in fiction.

In addition to this, Aiwass' compassion for Aleister and saving him from himself is pretty interesting. I wanna see how far he'll go to do just that, which may conflict with how he feels about people needlessly throwing their life away. That sounds just like what Will told Accelerator in NT6.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Seafoam

I hope Kamachi goes full Thelema. Seeing the panic of Christianity and the other pantheons as a new one rises (an interesting one at that) is something not often found in fiction.

In addition to this, Aiwass' compassion for Aleister and saving him from himself is pretty interesting. I wanna see how far he'll go to do just that, which may conflict with how he feels about people needlessly throwing their life away. That sounds just like what Will told Accelerator in NT6.

That's a good point. I'd like to see that too. I'm personally interested in Heaven Canceller appearing. I want him in the story. I don't know why. He just seems important and hasn't really done much yet. He's the only one left.

I want to see him troll Touma and Aleister together or have the both of them join forces to troll Touma.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Seafoam

I can only wonder how people feel about seeing a big building taking off into the atmosphere like it's nothing. Just another typical day in Academy City?

Probably figuring that if the General Superintendent skipped town, they should probably do the same.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Endscape

Probably figuring that if the General Superintendent skipped town, they should probably do the same.

Hahahaha. Sounds about right.

[DragonXX]

Originally Posted by shmaster

My volume has not arrived it.
But Kamachi is already rasiing my expectation.

I truly hope, I truly truly hope that htis volume will be Aleister's trail in crossing the Abyss.
In Thelema, for a 7=4 to ascend into 8=3 and become a secret cheif, the person must cross the Abyss and overcome the temptation from Coronzo.

Aiwass pretty muched declared he'll guide Aleister down his desired path, and the stage is set with the 10=1 itself stalling the thelema demon in the space.

Please, it is about time for Aleister to begin his crossing of the Abyss.

To get from 7=4 to 8=3 in Thelema one must ibe stripped of all his attainments and of himself as well, even of his Holy Guardian Angel, and becomes a Babe of the Abyss, who, having transcended the Reason, does nothing but grow in the womb of its mother. It then finds itself a Master of the Temple or they become a Brother of the Left Hand Path.

If my Theory is right I think the Brother of the Left Hand Path is most likely what the True Magic God were in this series.

I do believe that Crowley is about to become 8=3 but it is important that he must lose everything first which NT18 making him lose all of AC and at this rate he will lose Awaiss as well and most likey lose all his possibilities leaving just one.

Some people are saying that IT or IB is Touma Holy Guardian Angel which mean at some point he must lose it all to have the power to beat whoever will be the Final Boss.

We know that Touma lost everything but IB , IT and whatever else was in his Right Hand in NT9 which mean at some point he most likeil will even these things the only thing he had alway had from the beginning and most likely get whatever power is needed to stop the final boss by doing this.

[alex_drian]

Well, I can't wait for nothing because this always twist my expectations.