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2016-10-06, 22:50 | Link #924 | |
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Where in the world did you get that. Ikta hates this country about as much as the princess. He only appears to love 2 things. Yatori and science. He's said on multiple occasions he hates everything about this country and its methods. his only motivation to be where he is was to get Yatori away from a rotten system. The guy hates the idea of being a soldier.
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2016-10-07, 01:13 | Link #926 | |
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Yes, they do, but Ikta doesn't want to save the Empire. It's possible he wants to save the people in the Empire. |
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2016-10-07, 04:36 | Link #927 | |
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He wants to save Yatori. his mother is gone his father is gone the only person he cares about is Yatori. Simple as you like
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2016-10-07, 05:12 | Link #928 | |
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I think most anime watchers probably thought that Matthew was mostly here for comic relief or something like that (if not right now, at least at first) but the fact is, it's Ikta who genuinely went toward Matthew to become his friend, and that Matthew was the first and only person since his mother and father died that made him want to become friends. For Ikta, Matthew has an immense value. Not as much as Yatori who is pretty much as a "twin sister and only remaining family" status, but you get the picture. He's Ikta's best friend. Ikta was attracted towards Matthew due to Matthew's qualities (qualities he's noit really self aware off ) as a person and a human. And Ikta became more and more attached to Torway across the series. As for Haroma, no, he doesn't simply 'want to fuck her".
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2016-10-07, 05:45 | Link #929 | |
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Are we watching the same anime?
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2016-10-07, 05:57 | Link #930 | |
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As for Haro he was definitely after haro at first but as he said due to military regulations he cant act. (That and Yatori would never let him get the space. he tried to bed her quite a few times) Ikta's relationship with Torway is mainly one of a commander and his best weapon. His ability wtih the rifle is something he values but on a personal level he doesnt like him and constantly reminds him of the pretty boy thing. Yatori's is twin sister though i'd wager there's some serious tension under the surface. Yes we are. Most of what i've mentioned is personal opinion of the person. What most are looking at is the relationship from a militaristic side.
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2016-10-07, 08:06 | Link #931 | |
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The structure of a country is a reflection of its culture to a certain extent so the moment you are ready to give up your own culture you are also undermining everything related to it. It sounds very "scientific", that's why Ikta will do it anyways. In a way the princess goal is more close to a revolution than anything else. Or at least that's how it sounded to me. Certainly Ikta's biggest issue of this whole scheme, is Yatori, as usual.
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2016-10-07, 14:24 | Link #932 |
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Pretty sure the intention here is for them to get occupied, but in the best terms possible; political representation, etc. Something along the lines of the UK.
And I'm gonna stick with my interpretation that Ikta only really hates the bureaucrats and not the culture or country itself.
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2016-10-07, 14:39 | Link #933 | |
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2016-10-11, 16:47 | Link #935 |
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^ You sure? She is serving the Empire. Doing a coup that would give the power back to the Empiror or the princess (rightfull heir of the throne, though not 1st place) is not something against the Empire. No matter what I find the plan given by the princess as hard, costly in lives and not leading to the best results possibe. Using "accidental deaths", political power and military one (even a coup) seems much more viable and better solution.
In the end it is based on the (in modern japan works so popular) belief, that republic is the best and all saving system and this is the only way to force it. While I am not gonna state democracy is bad or something like that, it deffinitely needs rather high level of education and society level to have at least a chance of being good and lets say it straight, there is nothing like that in the Empire. Just changing the ruler is better than forcing in a system that won't work anyway. |
2016-10-11, 17:22 | Link #936 |
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Heh, finally caved in & watched the final episode. Jean & ikta certainly ended their encounter on an interesting note, there's feeling that they're kinda similar in approach but different in ideologies.
I recently saw that 90% bluff & 10& possibility in Tokyo ravens as well, might just be a Japanese metaphor. And of course the series ended with that princess' plan declaration with ikta. It's certainly going to put a crack in ikta & yatori (so much foreshadowing been there). [I HATE THIS, THEY'RE SO GOOD TOGETHER] Good visuals, never much extravagant but it could've been a lot of worse. Good ost too. This wasn't anywhere a perfect series, and certainly has flaws - but it has some very good positives. Overall a good watch, 7/10. I'll be forever salty this wasn't a two-cour series, or the season 2 it's never going to get. |
2016-10-12, 05:53 | Link #937 | |
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Finally got round to watching this. It wasn't bad at all, but even a non-light novel reader like myself could tell a lot had been cut out, particularly regarding the culture and political structure of the country and the backstories of Bada Sankrei and of the princess. I'm not a fan of those shows where you have to read the LN to get any sort of closure so I hope they'll make a season two someday.
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