2018-07-12, 04:05 | Link #2483 | |
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The thing about Alisa and Laura is that they can be very good friends with Rean as well even without little or no shipping. I like their normal interactions as well and really wish there was more of that. |
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2018-07-12, 04:31 | Link #2484 | |
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2018-07-12, 05:42 | Link #2485 | |
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2018-07-12, 06:32 | Link #2486 | |
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Sorry there is no was Estelle is stronger than Rean here, Orge mode Rean is out of the question. Enforcer Gaunlet and Boss Gaunlets > Jaegar Gaunlet. Rean and Laura also had much tougher training at start considering who their teachers are and if we go by their dialouge. Estelle had at most 2-3 years of experience and most of that time she had an x-enforcer babysitter. Sorry as much as i appreciate Estelle's growth, Rean is stronger than her. Unless she defeats/draws with Wallace the Black Tornado or goes through a Enforcer Gaunlet (CS version) by herself, she is weaker than Rean in power levels. Sen 3 Rean is atleast equal to Sara/Wallace/Similar leveled people and Orge Mode Rean can give even Aurelia trouble (he made her kneel). The only way Estelle can give trouble to Rean is if he holds back a lot........which he will since he doesn't have a reason to fight her in the first place. |
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2018-07-12, 07:07 | Link #2488 |
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There are a lot of thing Estelle can do during 2-3 years time skip. As Bracer, she will gather a lot of experience in fighting with many strong opponents in many difficult situations. She can power-up a lot during those time. She can also train with the divine blade + two Ex-enforcers to improve her skill all the time if she wants. In SEN4, she probably capable of winning in 1-1 fight enforcer now and when she teams up with Joshua and Renne, their team work will probably able to defeat strong opponents.
Still, I expect that Estelle's role will be a person who can bring the light back into Rean or put him out of his depression.
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As I said, I think Rean still holds the edge but he has beaten even with Ogre mode by more experienced fighters. And Lowe and McBurn at least on the same level. |
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2018-07-12, 07:44 | Link #2492 | ||
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2018-07-12, 08:52 | Link #2495 |
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I mean, it's not like they the power levels are 'fixed'. It's mentioned a lot of times during the various games how determination and will can change the outcome of a battle, and we have weird stuff like Joshua overcoming Loewe or Victor tying McBurn happening all the time. Heck, it was even outright said by Kondo, when he mentioned that Loewe was more powerful than Cassius, but Cassius was 'stronger', because he was smarter in reading the flow of the battle and was more resolved.
Comparing Estelle (and Lloyd) with Rean is very hard because they're basically opposite in that. Estelle is very normal compared to most people in Zemuria, but her will is of adamantium and if she has to do something she will. Even more extreme with Lloyd. Rean in contrast is man with like hundred of different aces in his sleeves, but who is almost constantly emotionally compromised in some way and always has some kind of self-imposed limit on himself. To make it simple, in a spar with ogre mode Rean would obliterate Estelle, but in a real fight with a lot on the line, experience and will become much more important. Also, the dengeki stream was very cool. Not a trailer, but we have a lot of stuff there. |
2018-07-12, 09:56 | Link #2496 |
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It took three games of unreasonable mess and issues and the death of a close person to make Rean completely snap (add to that the demon power getting stronger by itself).............i don't think Rean is losing in determination front here. He had to pick himself back up several times from far more serious issues. If the writers don't decide to mess with him again, Rean won't really lose to the previous mcs skill or powerwise.
Also those screenshots, Schera's chest is in full view behind that bracer logo............hiding her face doesn't work . |
2018-07-12, 13:29 | Link #2497 |
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Purely from feats and comments in verse; i'd say Rean >= Joshua > Lloyd. Rean stronger than Lloyd is rather obvious from what happened at the end of CS2, Joshua though, is very hard to say, since the best feat we got from him was solo Loewe, but the fight is rigged through the fact that the entire party jump Loewe before the fight and the talk with Loewe as well as chance of Loewe letting Joshua have his chance and there is also the fact that Joshua might losing his speed in that fight, fact still stand, Joshua still capable of fighting Loewe to a standstill 1 on 1 for a while. Which give him quite a lot of point. Again, this also in a degree apply to Rean, since he jump McBurn with his party, who is as strong as Arianrhod herself, but the fight hardly count due to external factor. So Rean would roughly be equal to Joshua in my eyes, though Ogre Rean is different story. I'd say Ogre Rean is stronger than Joshua for now. As for Lloyd, his strength was never his best point anyway, something he himself admit
Estelle though; i think she is weaker than Rean; 1 point is that in CS3 Rean is already at least Wallace levels; prove by their duel; and when people talk about experience; Rean literallly been through a war and goes back, and he fought in his life, Arianrhod, McBurn, Zephyr, Aurelia, etc, Rean bar of opponents is much stronger than Estelle opponents. If anything, the fact that she trained in 8 leaves actually leave her more vulnerable, since Rean practiced directly under Ka Fai, and he isn't affected by the water down version of staff, again, given his familiarity with the style, the issues of experiences and knowledge of techniques apply to them both, though this fight will probably won't happen, since the image show that Cassius probably going there to handle Rean personally, which we already can guess how that turn out I'm one of those who is impartial to shipping in CS franchise, since i was on team Laura on CS1, jump ship to Alfin in CS2, and Jump ship again to Altina in CS3. But i don''t think there is an official pairing here or that it's don't matter as much, i mean, look at Lloyd at CS2 end, no matter how people claim Elie canon, fact is, Lloyd is still as much as a womanizer as ever. That guy is scary, i mean, not counting Bond event, Lloyd still attract girls left and right. I'm more indifferent to Alissa rather than like or hate her though. Again, i don't think any full end girls is fully canon, since if we remove all bonding events, i'd say Claire have more feeling toward Rean than Alissa. |
2018-07-12, 14:15 | Link #2498 |
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Nice to see some rational people about ships. I have my preferred person to pair Rean with but I don't throw stones at someone who has a different preferred pairing then me. Good to see other like minded people. Way to many people who are annoyingly toxic about it. Really soured the phrase "best girl" for me.
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2018-07-12, 14:24 | Link #2499 |
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To be honest, I fully expect Altina to be the one snapping Rean's out of his funk. Their bond is the one that grew the fastest and dare I say it, strongest since they came to know each other.
Not counting any bonding events, Rean and Altina went from ennemies, to grudging partners, to practically brother-sister/father-daughter. Plus, this way, Falcom solves all the shipping problems they inadvertently created. (My headcannon: part of the reason Rean snapped at the end of CS3 was the possibility of his "daughter" becoming like Millium)
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