2019-11-03, 20:07 | Link #6624 |
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Sirzechs, at least 10 times the power of satan.
Nerfed Ophis, at least 8 times the power of satan. Shiva, between 8 and 10 times the power of satan. Indra, at least 4 times the power of Satan. Heavenly Dragons, at least 4 times the power of Satan. Rizevim, at least 3 times the power of a Satan. God, above the satan tier. |
2020-02-02, 23:53 | Link #6627 |
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Is Rizevim weak?
Nah, he deserves to be called a super devil. He took the greatest light attack from Michael like nothing and that is said to even injure satan tier dudes. Odin implied he was a God tier. Feats show he was near True DxD form in power and physical power. Is he Heavenly Dragon Tier? If I had to put number and HD tier was a 100, he would be an 85. He is not weak, I would say stronger than a Chief God. |
2020-02-03, 09:00 | Link #6628 |
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Nothing implies Rizevim was weak, only stated that he was the weakest among three known Super Devil, bust Super Devil still strong. He is God-tier, yes he is, God atleast stronger than Satan, Super Devil > Satan so obviously he is God-tier. Is he near Heavenly Dragon-level, no; if we want to find out out he need to fight against someone like Ddraig or Typhon or Apophis,...., his fight with Issei is pretty much meh, at that time True DxD is not event complete yet, and Issei at that time is not a solid Heavenly Dragon-tier character. He is not as strong as a Chief God, but definitely close to High-tier God, why, because Outrage Fafnir beat the shit out of him. Beside Chief God is pretty much meh, Indra can be considered as a Chief God because he is a leader of a Pantheon, but his strength is Ultimate-tier, same with Lugh and Aten, whose in top 10
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2020-02-03, 18:40 | Link #6629 |
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When Issei used DxD against Rizevim, is when Issei did not have any limitations, reason he almost died after the battle. His body could not resist all the power of it.
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So yeah, it was a complete DxD. After that Ophis limited its power yet it still defeated a Heavenly Dragon Tier as Apophis. It is hard to understand the full fight. But Rizevim and Issei had a CqC battle where Issei mentioned he was strong. Rizevim's ultimate attack was equal to Issei's second greatest attack since both cancelled each other. And outrage Fafnir? Rizevim handle him with ease, yeah, Fafnir took his arm, but Rizevim recovered it, he was not serious. It was Fafnir's curse that made Rizevim lose, not his power. And Indra is above Chief God. Chief God is like Odin. |
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Kiiro94 actually has a fairly good point. It's been confirmed that DxD is significantly more powerful than Pseudo DxD, which overwhelmed a Chief God to the point said God needed a Dragon King to keep up.
Rizeveim went toe to toe with True DxD, which puts him well beyond the normal Chief Gods. He still ultimately lost in terms of power but he's at least above basically everyone who isn't Top 10 material
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2020-02-04, 08:58 | Link #6631 | |
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We still don't know the difference in power between DxD G and Pseudo DxD or if a difference in power even exists. It has been implied that one exists but I really haven't seen any obvious power differences between the two forms. Issei in Pseudo DxD should be at Indra's level or higher. |
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And Indra should still be above Pseudo at least for now. ExE is probably stronger in terms of power but I'm expecting Indra has something that'll put him in a similar position to Vali as far as that form goes.
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2020-02-04, 10:16 | Link #6635 |
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Seriously we still don't know the full extent of Indra's power
Like i said, i don't stated that Rizevim is weak, he is pretty strong. He still terribly lost to Fafnir, yeah the curse did do a good part of it but if remember that Outrage Fafnir knocked off Lilith, and note that the dragon is also being injured. IF Rizevim being like you all claim then he is not being beaten around like a ragdoll. Issei back then is the first time he use DxD G, he have problem handling that form, that why he is not a solid Heavenly Dragon-tier character back then, and current Psuedo DxD > first time True DxD G back then. Also Rizevim goes toe to toe only for a while because i rememebr he anticipated Issei's movement before being overwhelm by DxD G raw power; we all known that Issei is not a great martial artist, is he more like a brawler like Sairaorg.
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First off, Outrage Fafnir broke Crom's arm before getting smacked down. As in did more damage to him than literally anyone else in the series has done. And Crom at the moment is the strongest non-DG/Shiva character in the verse. Second, there was no indication at all that Issei was not getting "full power" from DxD the first time. There certainly wasnt an exponential level up the second time he used it. Psuedo is beneath True in all cases. Third, Rizeviem wasn't predicting Issei's movements. They were having a slugfest followed by a beam struggle. There was nothing fancy about it, just straight up brute force.
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Also does anyone know where the hell Dragon King is supposed to be placed in the ranking system? I assumed it was somewhere around Maou but in terms of feats Fafnir is in the same class as Issei and Vali.
I know Outrage can cause a rank jump (presumably that's the justification for Issei's temporary rage boosts) but that's still way above even God-class.
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2020-02-04, 15:22 | Link #6639 | |
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Tiamat(strongest Dragon King) was said to be Maou-class. Tannin is confirmed to have at least Maou-class attack power so yeah I'd say it's close to Maou-class(for the weaker ones) and at Maou-class for stronger ones. Not counting Outrage Fafnir of course.
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2020-02-04, 15:24 | Link #6640 | |
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Fenrir is not even comparable to Iseei CxC. And the outrage increase your power, but not so much like the god class. |
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