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2020-03-14, 19:41 | Link #82 | |
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2020-03-14, 19:52 | Link #83 |
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I work in retail, and with assclowns panic purchasing, i am working thrice as I usually do. What I do? I fucking TRY to keep the toilet paper full. Do them fucking shit enough to fill swimming pools every day? I also absolutely love seeing Pakis coming from the neighborhood grocery shops bringing ALL their relatives to raid the toilet paper so they can resell at crazy high price. The stink eye EVERYONE give them for having the nerve to try profit off people's misery is priceless.
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2020-03-14, 20:09 | Link #84 |
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Anime Detour, TFcon Orlando Cancelled; Florida Supercon, WonderCon
Postponed: "The Anime Detour convention in Minneapolis, Minnesota announced on Friday that it has cancelled the event due to concerns about the COVID-19 coronavirus illness. The event was scheduled to be held on April 3-5. In the United States, other cancelled or postponed events include:" See: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...tponed/.157504 |
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2020-03-14, 21:58 | Link #86 |
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In regards to the White House statement, I'm going to wait until the end of March to draw any real conclusions. Then again, Trump could have insane luck (or the universe just hates America by this point).
Also, because of the video on the previous page, I found this one to be VERY interesting. It's not specifically about the coronavirus, but I do think it provides some interesting information about where all these diseases have been coming from The tl;dw is, Wuhan's wet markets are a breeding ground for these diseases due to the gray area they operate in under the Chinese government
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2020-03-14, 22:22 | Link #87 |
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https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-...ted-us/5706078
Here's the journal I mentioned. Be warned that the backers are very, very left.
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2020-03-14, 23:08 | Link #88 | |
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An amusing thought with all the lockdowns, pay attention for any spike in birth rates around the new year.
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2020-03-15, 01:26 | Link #89 | |
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You don't get infected with an animal virus just by consuming it. Viruses have spikes which determine the range of host they can infect. So an animal virus can only infect an animal cell. This is why human viruses can't affect pets and vice versa.. usually. However, a virus spike can mutate. This usually happens when there is both a human virus and an animal virus in the same body. During virus assembly, they don't always get the spike they are supposed to. Sometimes they acquire a spike from a different virus. Imagine building 2 anime figures at the same time and you accidentally place a limb of one figure or another. That's viral mutation. If that happens their host range can change. That's how we get things like the Coronavirus If I had to blame something, it would be that it's a live animal market rather than it being exotic or wild.
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2020-03-15, 01:46 | Link #90 | |
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Most of the sources are pretty good. Enough for me to say that there is credible evidence that the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan, China may not be the true origin of the virus. That said, the article's more inflammatory claims (like " it has now been proven that it did not originate in China but was brought to China from another country") appear unfounded or come from this one source: Fantastic: This super bat has finally appeared!. Evaluating it is impossible for me as its in Chinese but needless to say, I'm skeptical.
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And BTW, if it's intentional, it's got to be the dumbest move in the history of the post WWII era. Unleash a pandemic that also affects yourself to what end? Quote:
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2020-03-15, 06:08 | Link #93 | |
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FT has an article that talks about the EU not being able to help Italy, which gave the Chinese Red Cross the opportunity to come.
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2020-03-15, 08:04 | Link #94 | |
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If there are a bunch of dudes showing up and demanding you to let them search your house, you will agree without any question, right? After all, you have nothing to hide.
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Obvious CCP shill that guy is aside, I'll actually try to counter his claims. Note, I'm not a virologist....my field is immunology. First off, the thing says TV Asahi had a report blaming the US for being the virus source. Ironically, the only sources claiming this are Chinese and South Korean. Among Japanese sites, these are the only things I could find http://japannews01.blog.jp/archives/50532885.html https://www.moeruasia.net/archives/49659968.html https://twitter.com/search?q=%E3%83%...rc=typed_query There is no primary report there. Might have been scrubbed but the main sources are Chosun Ilbo and the Global Times.....which are infamous for being full of shit. Instead, searching Feb 21 for TV Asahi reveals this: https://kakaku.com/tv/channel=10/pro...odeID=1340631/ Quote:
Way to take a report out of context and twist it to "coronavirus source is America." The Taiwanese virologist's theory is also full of holes. My Chinese is too shit to follow the vid but America is where everyone around the world goes to. Having various imported strains is not out of the question. Taiwan being infected by Americans or Australians is not out of the question because the virus has likely been spreading for much longer than officially reported. Second, let's look at the actual science he claims as proof. Yes, it's known the source is not the market but the wild animal supply chain extends to way further than just the market. This was known since the Lancet report that he cited and is the current assumption now internationally. Neither Andersen's report nor the Lancet report discounts the source as being within China however. In fact bat coronavirus strains are common in wild animal handlers in southern China. here is another report by Andersen that gives a clearer picture: http://virological.org/t/the-proxima...sars-cov-2/398 as well as two others comparing them to the RatG13 bat coronavirus from Yunnan: http://virological.org/t/tackling-ru...AscTtbWRaB_wy8 http://virological.org/t/divergence-...n-relative/388 They agree these two viruses diverged around 1950s-1978. All reports agree SARS-COV-2 is not human engineered because the virus uses no reverse genetic systems used for such experiments and has a target receptor binding efficiency that came about through natural selection rather than the most efficient solution found in a computer prediction program. Due to the divergences from RatG13 also, RatG13 can't have been the basis from which this virus is modified. On another note, certain theories also claim that the Wuhan BSL4 lab was doing experiments on coronavirus using a pseudovirus construct based on HIV and is thus proof the virus is modded with HIV characteristics as suggested by the now retracted Pradhan et al paper. Pradhan et al claimed that several inserts on SARS-COV-2 resemble HIV motifs. Their paper is linked here for anyone interested (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...27871.full.pdf). This paper has been refuted here and elsewhere, including on Twitter and Virological.org but certain theories still claim the HIV pseudovirus construct as supporting evidence that the so-called HIV-like motifs were artificially engineered into SARS-COV-2. However, the published work most frequently cited for this is a 2008 paper by said Wuhan BSL4 lab. Here, the group wanted to study if replacement of SARS-like coronavirus receptor binding domain with that of SARS could facilitate infection of human cells in order to study differences between receptor binding mechanisms of the two virus types. To this end, they employed the HIV-based pseudovirus system (pNL4.3.Luc.R−E−-Luc) which incorporates SARS S-protein with HIV P24 capsid protein. However, this construct does not contain viral genomic material required for replication and instead replaces it with a luciferase reporter (that essentially causes a glowing effect so infection of test cells can be confirmed by a reader machine). This is a common tool known to anyone who does molecular biology regardless of their field. If anyone tried to weaponize it, it would be recognized immediately, otherwise it is akin to mistaking a water gun for an actual firearm.
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Epidemiologists' job is to trace the source as far back as possible and then compile facts. It's all that matters when lives are at stakes, but I guess that is a step too far for the Chinese government when they only care about making money in the short term instead of considering long-term ramifications. Quote:
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