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I get that there is risk in letting her go there, but if the Shinomiya family is so powerful, should that really be an issue? My point is, not letting Kaguya go to Stanford sounds downright unambitious for a family like hers. |
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2020-11-26, 05:15 | Link #3102 | |
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Not surprised with this development. I am still going with the idea of Shirogane with create company in US and take over Shinomiya corp
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2020-11-26, 06:09 | Link #3103 |
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Shirogane is 100% expecting this to happen
There is no way that he isn't planning something already just like what he said before, he will fight to get his Kaguya instead of waiting patiently beating the older bro would be tough I expect Shirogane will appear as contender during Shinomiya succession to challenge all the brothers |
2020-11-26, 06:10 | Link #3104 | |
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You must be under the mistaken assumption that he cares
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What the Shinomiyas want is a Yamato Nadeshiko housewife. Someone who is just there to be a pretty face and take care of her husband. They never had any ambition for Kaguya in the first place. |
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2020-11-26, 07:43 | Link #3105 | ||
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And I didn't mean ambition for Kaguya to succeed. I meant ambition for getting the most use of her as a pawn. That would mean, in turn, marrying her off to a guy who'd see "Stanford graduate" as more of a bare minimum rather than an intimidatingly impressive achievement. |
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2020-11-26, 08:33 | Link #3106 | |
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2020-11-26, 08:39 | Link #3107 |
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And we're back to "unambitious". Cementing an alliance with a family of the same caliber would be of greater value than rewarding a crony, for the family if not the brother in particular. (And it gets her out of the family, in a way, if they're afraid of competition for the succession. Especially if the husband isn't Japanese.)
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2020-11-26, 09:05 | Link #3108 | |
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Even if they did insist on her having a degree, they could always send her off to some small private college and let her get some useless degree. The reason the brother is stopping her from going abroad is simply because once she experiences real freedom away from her family and gets a Stanford degree that would open all the doors in the world for her, it would become near impossible to control her anymore.
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2020-11-26, 11:38 | Link #3110 | ||
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Not really. It wouldn't make much of a difference to those kinds of people.
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2020-11-26, 11:40 | Link #3111 |
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I'd say he's ambitious, but also cautious. Sure he wants to marry her to someone important to build ties to other powerful institutions, but he wants to do so in a way that will give him power over said institutions. The way Kaguya herself was taught to approach interpersonal relationships makes it pretty clear that this is the preferred path for the Shinomiyas. He wouldn't want to marry Kaguya to someone that's strong, smart, skilled and ambitious, as such a person would try to gain influence over him instead of just being his puppet and enjoying the "influence" he gives him. So it seems natural that he'd want to keep Kaguya from getting an education that could make her "superior" to such men. Not to mention that, as Kaguya said, he's very much set in the mindset of women being mere tools who shouldn't desire anything besides marrying a "good" man and bearing and raising children.
Well, I'm betting Kaguya will show some surprising success working people off each other to gain power, but I'm fairly sure she'll need help. It's hardly ever a good idea to say "I need to do this alone", especially when dealing with someone or something as powerful as this. Here's hoping that Hayasaka puts two and two together and does whatever she can, as well as Miyuki. Together, along with maybe even some others, they just might be able to pull this off. |
2020-11-26, 14:52 | Link #3114 | |
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But for someone who is raised and succeeded in a bygone era, an Ivy League school is an intimidatingly impressive achievement. Even if realistically we can imagine the possibility of a university graduate being unemployed, an Asian boomer won't. Second, even if we entertain that point where Kaguya graduates from Stanford and still becomes a housewife, just the fact that she has an Ivy League degree means that she has enough leverage and reputation to eventually springboard her own career and leave her husband, should their relationship go awry. Kaguya will not be forever dependent on her husband regardless. Also given Oko's reaction, it's obvious that he has zero knowledge about the United States, so it's doubtful that he could ever find anyone who doesn't romanticize a prestigious degree anyway. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2020-11-26 at 15:19. |
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2020-11-26, 18:04 | Link #3116 | |
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During the Kashiwagi's porn DVD chapter, it's mentioned that the Shinomiyas exploited the domestic market during Japan's economic bubble to remain dominant in Japan, while the Shijos are the ones who expanded overseas. The Shinomiyas are strictly Japanese. You can even see that everytime their family estate is shown that it always as an old tradition Showa era aesthetic. In any case, it doesn't change that Oko is in favorable position of power right now as the eldest son and has little incentive to change to accomodate others. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2020-11-26 at 19:36. |
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2020-12-01, 23:07 | Link #3119 | |
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If the basis of the wife is for the connection of the families and just to have children, then such attributes are just a burden. Just to note Kaguya is not a trophy wife. She is a political marriage tool to combine the might of wealthy families.
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2020-12-03, 15:07 | Link #3120 |
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Lol, leave it to Fujiwara to smash all the superserious stuff with a sledgehammer of Ramen 4 Emperor story. Love how she is even not the main focus in a chapter where she is the sole student council member in it, though that was to be expected from a Ramen chapter. That ending though, "threw up like crazy", lol. xD
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