(CR) 86 TV anime

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Lambdalith

Anyway, it's bizarre how people can judge things with a single episode when the context of the show hasn't yet being explained in detail, especially when a series is not front loaded with spoonfeeded infodumps.

Because this is the first episode so people are talking with the information they got from that one episode...?

[Applehell]

I'm not fond of al the jumping around, but I was thought first episode was pretty great. I'm a LN reader so I will refrain from saying to much but the first episode is definitely only scratching the surface what is going.

[sierra117]

Originally Posted by Lambdalith

Also

Spoiler:

Apparently the world of 86 never had a space program because they have no satellites and their aerospace tech is not particularly good in general.

They had

Spoiler for :

they will be briefly mentioned later, but 86 “Earth” once had stuffs like satellites and so on but when the Legion War started, they somehow lost all of their satellites and currently don’t have resources to relaunch them

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Thor's Hammer

I did not know it was someone who worked on Alicization directing this. I guess building the world probably won't be much of a priority for the show then, and I did feel like some stuff might have been skipped in this episode without really knowing what was skipped since I haven't read the source material.

Originally Posted by Frontier

If I recall the director is kind of infamous for cutting some important world and concept building from the SAO: Alicization adaption, but I feel like they won't avoid mentioning anything that's super major to the actual plot.

You misremember then. The only involvement Ishii had with Alicization was with the storyboard of War of the Underworld part 1, episode 7.

Originally Posted by Thor's Hammer

I was also annoyed by the show focusing on Lena being delighted at being able to eat real pastries as I found that immersion breaking, but I guess the priority was to properly set up the series's main waifu so that otaku will buy the merchandise/light novels.

And why exactly? And FYI, that scene is 1-for-1 from the LN.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Kakurin

You misremember then. The only involvement Ishii had with Alicization was with the storyboard of War of the Underworld part 1, episode 7.

Well I definitely got the wrong impression .

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by Magewolf

So this is one of those shows were you have to turn your suspension of disbelief up to 11 so the story can make use of all the easy melodrama it is going for. Lets not think about how long a country would last with all it's military assets under the control of an oppressed minority.

Why we should not think about it? I mean if you do you can come with at least with five different methods how it possible works and it's not like only one or two are necessarily used at once. There is also no reason why everything should have been expalined in very first episode.

[X207]

this looks like an interesting series, war and mecha, im in. not sure how it will end up but i will give the series a good shot. not a fan of code geese type but the "realities" of war show in ep1 are encouraging.

[Kakurin]

Only watched it low resolution, but the CG combat scenes look really impressive considering how fluid the movement is. Seems A-1's decision to fully outsource that part is paying dividends.

Sawano's BGM is of course great as always.

Pacing right now is 1 episode for 1 chapter while being quite faithful to the original work. Anime-only scenes in episode 2 have been introduced to act as an info dump, i.e. parts that are explained in text form in the LN.

As a LN reader I'm pretty happy with the adaptation to this point.

EDIT: The ED

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https://youtu.be/vMdlbE-MzF8

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[Stark700]

The first cour is going to be 11 episodes (not sure if second cour will also have same length)

[sierra117]

Originally Posted by Stark700

The first cour is going to be 11 episodes (not sure if second cour will also have same length)

The 2nd cour probably will be either 12-13 episodes due to covering 2-3 volumes instead of 1 like 1st cour

[Frontier]

Shin is very stoic and practical, although he's not averse to snarking when necessary, and is an efficient and capable commander for the Spearhead Squadron and a devastating warrior against the Legion. Also surprisingly soft-spoken, and carries the names of his fallen comrades into battle .

The Eighty-Six were on the ball and ready to fight the Legion before Lena even called them. Is there anything for her to even do for them other than react like she's in a JoJo story? Although even Shin admits that her suggestion was sensible and by-the-book, she knows what she's doing, Spearhead just has their own, effective, way of fighting the Legion .

And what a fight it was as we see the Eighty-Six take the fight to the man units of the Legion and send them packing. The CG Juggernauts and Legion looked pretty cool and moved very well, and that Sawano OST was effective .

So the "official" story is that the Empire of Giad sent autonomous robot drones (because that always ends well) attack the Republic of San Magnolia, but because the Legion have a certain life expectancy, the Republic is sure the war will be over in two years. And it's not like they have to worry about fighting themselves or about military matters when they've got the Juggernaut "drones" to fight for them .

Of course Lena is there to spit facts and tell the class the truth, that the Republic ended up retreating and sending in citizens who didn't look like them and weren't Alba to the front lines to forcibly fight off the Legion from internment camps, justifying it by saying that they're merely underdeveloped pigs put in to operate drones and not real flesh-and-blood humans like they are. It's kind of horrifying that Lena tells them all this and the students still can't comprehend how terrible it is. Is it too much to hope for that she was able to get through to at least a few of them ?

I guess it's a good thing Lena's uncle is so high up in the military that she can talk about how terrible the Republic's treatment of the Eighty-Six and how little they are living up to their self-professed ideals without facing punishment or proper reprimand, although I'm worried Lena might push it too far .

Lena seems to be enjoying her nightly conversations with Undertaker and the rapport she thinks she's building with Spearhead Squadron, although while she's apparently their longest-lasting Handler they still think she's due to break eventually

I think he wanted more than to just hand out Anju's cakes...

Shin's enjoying a good book. Don't bother him about shooting cans unless you want him to shoot from there .

The Ending fits very well for the kind of sci-fi Mecha show the series is. Very melodic and poignant .

[sierra117]

Originally Posted by Frontier

The Eighty-Six were on the ball and ready to fight the Legion before Lena even called them. Is there anything for her to even do for them other than react like she's in a JoJo story? Although even Shin admits that her suggestion was sensible and by-the-book, she knows what she's doing, Spearhead just has their own, effective, way of fighting the Legion .

Spearhead is that effective in killing Legion because they are a unit consist entirely of ace-pilots and Shin himself is a walking cheat
Lena may look like she isn’t needed but having someone with a view that can cover the entire battlefield and give appropriate commands in various situations is quite useful and crucial, you know?

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by sierra117

Spearhead is that effective in killing Legion because they are a unit consist entirely of ace-pilots and Shin himself is a walking cheat
Lena may look like she isn’t needed but having someone with a view that can cover the entire battlefield and give appropriate commands in various situations is quite useful and crucial, you know?

True. Plus she's nice to listen to .

[Tenzen12]

Battle was cool, spidertanks are pleasant change from standard mechas and they packing some nice moves.

Exposition in other hand couldn't be more heavy-handed if it was made out of uranium.

[Nishaven]

I don't know if I am biased because I love the LNs but the first two episodes were amazing for me.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Battle was cool, spidertanks are pleasant change from standard mechas and they packing some nice moves.

Although they've still got the standard cool rifles and swords .

[Daft]

I'm liking the combat in this show. The CG is done by the same studio that did Ginga Kikoutai Majestic Prince. Those fights were amazing. They're also doing Godzilla SP this season and I was pleasantly surprised by the monster animation. Studio Orange doing good work for CG anime.

[Kanon]

The setting is rather interesting. Other than hair and eye color, I wonder what makes the "normals" different from the 86. The paper mentioned they failed to evolve? Of course, hair and eye color is more than enough reason for humans to discriminate against others, our own history has proven that.

I wonder why the government even bothers hiding the fact 86 are piloting their mechs. It doesn't seem like anyone besides the main character gives a damn. I thought perhaps it was an "old people" mindset, but this episode has shown us young people feel the same. The heroine is the only exception so far.

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The paper mentioned they failed to evolve?

That is just a pseudo-scientific excuse to justify taking away their human rights. Kind of like the Nazi race theory.

I wonder why the government even bothers hiding the fact 86 are piloting their mechs.

Think you misunderstood something. Nobody's hiding it. The logic they propagate (as explained by the teacher) is, the 86 are not humans. Therefore, no humans are piloting the Juggernauts and by extension there are no human casualties in this war.

[Lambdalith]

Originally Posted by Frontier

Although they've still got the standard cool rifles and swords .

The fact that to use the vibro blades you have to almost crash at high speed on the target add extra coolness to the idea. Maybe too much considering that only Shin seems to be crazy enough to have those things equipped.