2021-09-05, 11:17 | Link #221 |
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You know, given that Soma has referenced older anime like Yu-Gi-Oh and others, it wouldn't surprise me if he took that "battleship with wheels" idea from the notorious Adrastea-class battleships that have flattened armies, cities & fortresses under their gigantic wheels in Victory Gundam.
As for the battles in this episode, for an anime with limited budget & resources, they actually got their animation priorities right. They did the boring fortress charge using still frames while they poured their animation resources for the aerial battle which is much more exciting to watch. Good stuff. Even though tactics are not detailed, I still enjoy this episode. Don't know how Soma will deal with the army who have waited until dawn there but we'll see.
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2021-09-05, 11:32 | Link #222 | |
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2021-09-05, 17:58 | Link #223 |
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Just realized I can finally say it...
The device I was talking about several pages earlier is actually the transmission gemstone, since it's portable . That being said, I still don't get what happened with the Fortress, and I didn't in the Manga either. The anime made it seem like they were building one from scratch, while the manga suggested they restored a no longer used one. Also that's a very weak cannon Carmine has there... I also still think he looks more imposing in the Manga. Same goes for Beowulf. :P
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2021-09-06, 12:37 | Link #224 | |
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The cannon is weak because it's just a big ball of metal, it's not a cannonball with explosive powder. |
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2021-09-06, 13:50 | Link #225 | |
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As for the cannon, that shouldn't change anything at all. In fact, it should make the cannon penetrate the wall. Castle walls got seriously damaged from Trebuchets, which are not only less accurate, but also less powerful. Note here how the wall gets hit so hard, it doesn't even fall down, but just gets penetrated. We have in the anime? Going by the gate 2 rows of stone bricks.
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2021-09-06, 14:05 | Link #226 |
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It depends on a lot of factors, like the quality and design of the walls (and how well they were joined). No lord/king who could avoid it would set up a wall as flimsy as the adobe wall shown in that clip, and they would not readily let the cannons or trebuchets be brought that close. Typically it has multiple layers (large, hard and heavy stone blocks on the outside, front and back and smaller rocks and materials between). And there's a gap between a wall being damaged and being destroyed completely. It takes more than one shot to bring down anything that's even remotely well-made. The damage shown seems fairly close to what I'd expect really.
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2021-09-06, 14:27 | Link #227 | |
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That being said, it's still a rather thin wall, so I'm still not completely happy with the damage.
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2021-09-06, 23:09 | Link #228 |
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I'm not so sure it's that thin. Typically in castles if you're looking over the crenellations then you're standing literally on the wall, meaning it's at least thick enough for people to walk around on top of it (or at least thick enough to support a slightly widened top that people can walk on).
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2021-09-07, 08:42 | Link #229 | |
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It actually looks thicker from where the Foxgirl is standing, but that's more likely perspective, as making the gate wall that much thinner, compared everything else, makes no sense at all.
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2021-09-11, 13:01 | Link #230 |
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Souma finally confronts Castor in his snazzy new king duds, thanks to looking through the library for maps that reveal secret paths into his castle. Once again, it pays to be well-read and to check out a library once in a while .
Castor knows he's beaten, but he can't go out without a fight, so he and Aisha engage in single combat. Souma may be a Hero but he's not that kind of hero quite yet. But the deciding factor is short-haired Liscia coming in through Living Poltergeist to freeze Castor for Aisha to deliver the decisive blow. And then Liscia tells Castor that she's so loyal to Souma now she'd even go up against her father for him . I love how Aisha didn't want to admit in front of Souma that she's a lot older than she looks. Dark Elf Genes are the best . Poor Carla arrives just in time to see her father defeated and collared with a slave collar that puts him basically at Souma's mercy, and she has no choice but to let herself be collared as well. I mean, it's their own fault, but I kind of feel bad for these two . And you can tell Liscia feels bad about fighting and then taking into custody on the possibility of execution people she's close to. Including Duke Carmine . Well, that is one awkward sky carriage ride as Souma, Liscia, and Aisha travel with Carla. Liscia trying to save her best friend's life by stammering out all of Carla's good points so Souma can see worth in keeping her alive. Was she about to say how good her figure is outside that armor before Souma stopped her :P? I love how Souma and Hal are such bros now . Souma comes in with the air cavalry and short of holding hostages (which he won't abide by), Duke Carmine knows he's lost and makes sure the corrupt nobility are the first to get collared before having himself collared to mark Souma's victory. It seems like Carmine finally has shown some sense...until it turns out this was all planned from the start by Carmine to give Souma and Liscia a wedding gift of weeding out the corrupt noblemen and giving Souma an excuse to completely stop them and take full military power. This wasn't some stupid war general going out for one last fight, this was actual strategy to help Souma, the man Liscia chose. Jeez, now I kind of feel bad and don't want the guy to have to die for this . And then things turnaround for Amidonia as Souma storms their capital while they're busy invading, and luckily the princess hid herself away while Souma and company take over. Souma outplayed everyone and decisively won on all fronts . Okay, so Juna is also a ninja too, apparently? I thought that was her when I saw that one ninja had gigantic boobs .
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2021-09-11, 14:56 | Link #231 | |
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One could say that Carla and Castor ended up as victims in Carmine's plot...but they were given chances to side with Souma and they refused, so now they have to face the consequences. Speaking of Carmine, now that the truth has been revealed I hope people will appreciate his noble and heroic sacrifice. On a lighter tone, one cannot help but notice the sexual dimorphism between males beastmen like Carmine and Beowulf and females like Tomoe and Kaede.
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2021-09-11, 21:07 | Link #233 |
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They say the pen is mightier than the sword. And thanks to his magic, King Souma has three of them working simultaneously. So he is a mighty hero indeed. Being able to draw on the military history of two planets turns out to be quite useful, I guess.
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2021-09-11, 22:05 | Link #235 | |
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Also, looking back, I feel like Carmine kind of chose his words rather carefully when talking with the other dukes. He probably really meant it when he said that Souma was being too aggressive in his attempts to deal with things, that the resentment from those he disenfranchised would come back to bite him. He just set it up to look like he thought the solution was to eliminate Souma, not the corrupt nobles. Also interesting to see their conversation when Souma met with the dukes knowing that both knew the truth behind the plot. |
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2021-09-12, 00:48 | Link #237 | |
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Souma certainly doesn't want too, both because they are capable people and to not make Liscia sad. We'll see if the slave collar will be considered enough of a punishment.
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2021-09-12, 03:51 | Link #238 | |
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It's not dimorphism, they're different races of beastfolk. And it's just coincidence that males happen to be of races with beast faces, while girls are of races with cute animal ears. |
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2021-09-12, 22:40 | Link #239 | |
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The (I think) Korean version of the Kitsune on the other hand, is animal like, and also something you don't want to meat Unless you've got a liver to spare. I mean there are people who mistook Tomoe for a white fox, so...
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2021-09-13, 01:48 | Link #240 |
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By this point I'm looking forward to Souma taking Roroa as a princess consort, thereby uniting the two countries together.
As for Carmine and Vargas, I don't want them to die, and they probably won't, so it would be interesting to see what their punishment will be.
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