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Of course, I have no evidence either way in this specific case. But either one, or some combination of the two, is a viable option. |
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2022-11-30, 17:48 | Link #22 |
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At the end of the day, it could go either way, and that's fine. That being said, the notion that keeping everyone single would detract from the film's quality is debatable.
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2022-11-30, 19:57 | Link #24 |
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The perspective I'm arguing against is speaking to quality, not marketability. I'm not debating the latter here (because it's been well-established, and something I understand the different sides to), but rather, the former.
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2022-12-01, 08:38 | Link #25 |
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It doesn't hurt the movie's quality, but it does stretch disbelief that none of the five had a partner. And again, it's really obvious why they chose to do with that. There would have been an outrage among fans if one of them got a boyfriend. That's just how it works with those kind of shows in Japan.
The Yama girls will never get boyfriends either. Neither will the GochiUsa girls. I could go on. The only exception to this rule I've seen among the many iyashikei shows I've watched is Aria.
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2022-12-03, 21:03 | Link #27 |
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Just finished watching it on Crunchyroll. It has been hard to get into watching anime recently, but this was enjoyable or at least interesting. I can't think of another case where a slice-of-life has done a sort of continuation significantly in the future, but I like creative things like this.
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2022-12-08, 13:07 | Link #28 | |
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The statistical analysis is nice, but ultimately pointless. It's fine to criticize something you like instead of trying to defend a silly narrative decision. Even fine to decide that it doesn't matter to you. But pretending it was done for realism or based on statistical analysis is just being silly. It's obvious why they ended up doing that. It's not the biggest issue in the world or the biggest flaw of the movie. But it's there and I'll certainly criticize them to a degree for that choice. A small but good opportunity squandered because they just didn't want to take chances.
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2023-01-01, 09:01 | Link #32 | |
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I mean, on one hand, it's nice to see that they're still very much themselves. On the other... I don't know. |
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2023-01-01, 10:39 | Link #33 |
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The newer gen of anime fans and change don't mix. Also conflicts with the notion of cozy and anime's angle on escapism. I do want it but it's something that many have an aversion to. Their problem, reality can grind them into the ground in time.
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2023-01-04, 19:57 | Link #34 | |
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I'll therefore flip things around to see if I can gain a modicum of insight into thinngs: what could have the film done had the characters been in a relationship? How would that tangibly add to the narrative or strengthen the films?
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2023-01-04, 23:11 | Link #35 |
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Seriously? We're feuding over whether people should/shouldn't be in a relationship?
Why the actual hell does that mean much of anything, if anything at all? I get that some cultures heavily believe in that or family being the most important things, but come on...And why is it your business if they are or aren't? Being in a relationship doesn't just magically fix things or make one better. Anime would sure love you to believe that, though. If anything, it makes things far more complicated and trying. Not always a bad thing, though. People can make each other better if they both put in the effort. Which rarely happens in reality though. And let's be honest. The 996 work culture within Asia is incredibly harsh. This is not something where a relationship would be healthy or have enough time to participate in. That is one of Japan's biggest issues. Quality of living, infrastructure, income are good but the working culture of people being valued for time in a company and for other very outdated practices towards people not in a company as long and/or females is absurd. Or the 'participate in the after-work drinking clique or else' pressure. If a person doesn't feel much of anything being single, then why would they be ready for a relationship? Heck, most people are definitely not capable of properly being in a relationship in their 20s. If anything, that's the time in your life where you think you know everything then come crashing back to earth and realise you don't. No friend/colleague/family of mine has avoided regretting their 20s. There's nothing wrong with youthful optimism or exuberance, but there's certain maturations on multiple levels that need to occur. Particularly within a cause vs system balance, work-life balance, dealing with people appropriately, having a healthy relationship, knowing your limits with social media. And yes, let's be frank - some otaku get tribal when their waifu is no longer single. But if you're expecting anyone to take a risk on that front in one of the most narrow eras of anime where almost everything is shounen, isekai or soft as a feather romcom/slice of life, good luck with that. In short - let them be.
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This came out 2y ago, I watched it to prep for s3...but I didn't realize it would be a flash foward to when they're all adults, while s3 looks to still be in the school time period. It was still a great concept and execution, pretty cool that they were able to do this independent of the manga material.
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There's an interview in official guidebook to the movie that clarifies things. The director wanted to deal with the topic of what it meant to be an adult, and because there is a sort of maturity associated with people who are coupled, they felt that it would be better to leave the characters single so that the topic could be explored convincingly: seeing Nadeshiko and others with a partner would give us viewers the feeling that the characters have gotten a pretty strong sense of what they want from life. If it doesn't align with the world views some hold, that's acceptable, but not when one acts dismissive to the possibility that the producers had a solid reason for going down the route they did beyond what what one's assumptions were.
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2024-04-09, 17:17 | Link #39 |
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Wrong. They want to show a group of nascent adults trying to figure things out. To most people, couples look like they have things already figured out, which would take away from the message. Having everyone single also gives the story more time to focus on the campsite building; if the characters weren't single, there'd be a need to show things like families, and the characters wouldn't have the same freedom to work on putting a new campsite together.
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