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Old 2007-04-23, 08:36   Link #1601
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When I showed my sister in law the Lucky Channel segment from episode 1 of Lucky Star, she asked me about Akira Kogami's sleeves. They are several sizes too long for her. I told her it was a Japanese joke. After giving it some thought I came up with my own Akira Kogami Sleeve Theory. I think it is symbolic of the girl pop star being placed in a role usually taken by someone considerably older than her. On the other hand, it could be just because it is considered kawaii.
Actually, Traditional Chinese Opera features characters in very long sleeves too. Which I, being a chinese, am ashame to say have no idea regarding the logic behind this.
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Old 2007-04-23, 09:40   Link #1602
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Haha, my thoughts exactly. Kaibutsu-kun aired in 1968 and 1969, quite a few years before I was even born. No way I would've ever gotten that reference on my own; it's not like I have the luxury of having the influence of an anime-loving gamer-dad like some people.

Thanks for posting the vid, aorta.
Well I have to give credit to Level E for posting the original video, I just found a better copy of it.

Anyway that is from the 80's remake version (1980-1982), I don't know if the older version had the same talking at the intro because the openings for it on youtube all just begin with the song.
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Old 2007-04-23, 10:46   Link #1603
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Once again, Anime News Network has posted their reviews of most of the new spring anime (Lucky Star included)....

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2007-04-22


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Old 2007-04-23, 11:45   Link #1604
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Well I have to give credit to Level E for posting the original video, I just found a better copy of it.

Anyway that is from the 80's remake version (1980-1982), I don't know if the older version had the same talking at the intro because the openings for it on youtube all just begin with the song.
Aah, I was wondering if it was the remake. I'd tell you why I assumed it was the first season, but I'm afraid it'd make some folks here feel very old. In either case, the anime is still older than me. XD
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Old 2007-04-23, 12:06   Link #1605
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The epic six and a half minute dialogue on the finer points of eating was obviously intended to be humorous, but instead resembles an interminable anime comedy sketch directed by the chatty half of Quentin Tarantino if he were lobotomized with a sticky-sweet lollipop.
Imagining Tarantino directing an episode of Lucky Star has had me giggling since I read that.


Konata: Say, Miyuki - do think everything happens for a reason?
(Car hits a bump)
*Bang*
All: D :


...... Sorry
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Old 2007-04-23, 12:18   Link #1606
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Imagining Tarantino directing an episode of Lucky Star has had me giggling since I read that.

Konata: Say, Miyuki - do think everything happens for a reason?
(Car hits a bump)
*Bang*
All: D :

...... Sorry
Oh man! I LOVED that scene! Especially when they had to clean up.

Anyway, I would take ANN's "reviews" with a pinch of salt, and they admitted as much in their disclaimers (at the beginning of their "reviews"). After all, it is just one person's opinion of Lucky Star, and not a collective judgement.

Still, I would love to see a homage to Quentin Tarantino in an episode of Lucky Star.

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Old 2007-04-23, 12:43   Link #1607
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Exactly.... it isn't really an ANN review... he's just this guy, you know? If you'll note, they gave pretty much all the 'romance/moe' related shows to him and he pretty much slams them all. I'm sure it drives up the hit rate on the site. Its rare I come across an ANN review that likes the sort of thing I like, so I long ago figured they lived on the other side of the anime spectrum and, if anything, they're kind of over-reaching by calling themselves the "anime news network" rather than the "some parts of the shounen news" spectrum or something similar.

Kind of like watching the Random Curiosity polls where it becomes rapidly clear that most of the polling group has specific tastes that are more narrowly defined than 'general anime'.
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Old 2007-04-23, 12:45   Link #1608
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Sure Key has better loli-moe romance stories than most H-Game companies, but come on it's no Shakespeare.
Actually they kinda are. Well, maybe not Key, they'd be more like the pamphlet printers churning out lurid serials on cheap pulp. But I'd compare KyoAni to Shakespeare.

Not because I think they're that so great and people will still be talking about SHnY 400 years from now... But for a simple reason that many people fail to recognize --- something I believe is a significant contributor to the academic cultural gap in English-speaking countries --- Shakespeare was a pop artist.

Shakespeare used excessive violence, fanservice (including suggestions of yuri/yaoi), "l33t" speak (of a sorts), supernatural plots, and like KyoAni most of his stories are adaptations.

Most importantly, they're both in the business of providing quality entertainment to ordinary people at a reasonable price.

So people who regard Shakespeare as the pinnacle of English theatrical art, while disregarding modern forms of entertainment, and specifically criticizing the internet and television... They're just pompous morons.

If Lucky☆Star were a Shakespeare play?.... maybe Midsummer's Night Dream -- It's short with elements of self-parody. But L*S doesn't really have any pathos. Or with the ensemble cast, it's a bit like Much Ado About Nothing -- Konata would be Benedick, who's Kagami? Don John?

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Still, I would love to see a homage to Quentin Tarantino in an episode of Lucky Star.
... Or vice-versa
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Old 2007-04-23, 14:01   Link #1609
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Exactly.... it isn't really an ANN review... he's just this guy, you know? If you'll note, they gave pretty much all the 'romance/moe' related shows to him and he pretty much slams them all. I'm sure it drives up the hit rate on the site. Its rare I come across an ANN review that likes the sort of thing I like, so I long ago figured they lived on the other side of the anime spectrum and, if anything, they're kind of over-reaching by calling themselves the "anime news network" rather than the "some parts of the shounen news" spectrum or something similar.

Kind of like watching the Random Curiosity polls where it becomes rapidly clear that most of the polling group has specific tastes that are more narrowly defined than 'general anime'.
And yet if you look at their Top 10 system of anime rankings though, it's all the newest most popular and hip shows. This is mostly because of the screwball weighting system they have when taking in votes. Basically none of them work properly in filtering out noise, it either favours whatever is new, whatever has the most votes, or and I kid you not, whoever has the history of voting when the votes are tallyed each day.

If you go to a blog you get bias, if you go to ANN you get bias, if you go to the fans you get bias, thus the only way theoretically possible to gauge something is to watch it yourself.
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Old 2007-04-23, 14:46   Link #1610
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If Lucky☆Star were a Shakespeare play?.... maybe Midsummer's Night Dream -- It's short with elements of self-parody. But L*S doesn't really have any pathos. Or with the ensemble cast, it's a bit like Much Ado About Nothing -- Konata would be Benedick, who's Kagami? Don John?



... Or vice-versa
Much Ado about Nothing is my absolute favorite Shakespeare play, but I can't really see Lucky☆Star as being that similar to it. Konata's no Benedick, IMHO.

You know, I was just considering what an anime adaptation of Much Ado would be like...Beatrice is the 16th century tsundere, and I can easily see Benedick being played by Tomokazu Sugita for his sarcasm and witty jabs. Hero will probably be a moe blob for anti-moe bloggers to attack, and Claudio will probably end up in some BL doujin. Ok, now I'm scaring myself.

So yeah, if any KyoAni production is like Much Ado, it's probably SHnY. Haruhi = Beatrice, Kyon = Benedick, Mikuru = Hero, Itsuki = Claudio. Taniguchi can be Verges and Tsuruya can be Dogberry, who will fail to deliver her message properly because she can't stop laughing.
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Old 2007-04-23, 15:21   Link #1611
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Okay.. that was a funny mapping, Mirrinus <snort....>
It might be funny to see an "Omake Theatre SHnY production" of that.
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Old 2007-04-23, 15:32   Link #1612
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If Lucky☆Star were a Shakespeare play?.... maybe Midsummer's Night Dream -- It's short with elements of self-parody. But L*S doesn't really have any pathos. Or with the ensemble cast, it's a bit like Much Ado About Nothing -- Konata would be Benedick, who's Kagami? Don John?


Kagami is Beatrice. Duh! She exudes the same air of "I'm too good for any of you!" And showing up Konata is her favorite, if not sole, recreational pastime.

2+2=4. ALWAYS.
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Old 2007-04-23, 16:19   Link #1613
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If you're going to compare anime to Shakespeare, why don't you guys just check out the new Romeo and Juliet anime instead(if you haven't already)?
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Old 2007-04-23, 16:25   Link #1614
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If you're going to compare anime to Shakespeare, why don't you guys just check out the new Romeo and Juliet anime instead(if you haven't already)?
Because it's too obvious (and, IMHO, rather silly).
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Old 2007-04-23, 16:47   Link #1615
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Re Shakespeare, Lucky Star is actually like The Tempest. Miyuki is Prospero, Kagami is Ariel, Tsukasa is Miranda, and of course Konata is Caliban!

Perhaps.
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Old 2007-04-23, 16:50   Link #1616
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... it reminds me of those silly sketches where the "adaptation writers" so completely rework a story that it is unrecognizeable to the author outside of the title. Why did they even bother to lift the title? Lots of stories abound about "doomed love" without people being named Romeo or Juliet.... (I've already done enoug posts lampooning 'adaptations gone wild')

For something fun like what I'd rather see ---
If anyone remembers a tv series called "Moonlighting" that included such unknowns as Bruce Willis and Cybil Shepard... they did a wonderful "omake theatre" episode called "Atomic Shakespeare" that was a fanciful musical satirical blend of the play "Taming of the Shrew" and its parallels with the world the characters inhabited. The setup was we saw a kid who was a fan of "Moonlighting" wanting to watch the show but was banned from the tv set until he finished his Shakespeare essay...
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O for a Malahelicon of fire!

(Mally, the Muse of Bad Fanfiction, is a fixture in the MSTing sub-fandoms of most genres that produce fanfic. Legend says she also ghost-wrote about half of Star Trek: Voyager).
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Old 2007-04-23, 17:46   Link #1618
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If you're going to compare anime to Shakespeare, why don't you guys just check out the new Romeo and Juliet anime instead(if you haven't already)?
Because, despite being an admirer of Shakespeare, I just can't stand Romeo and Juliet. I have issues with the characters, as I find them ranging from mildly annoying to downright idiotic. I'm also not keen at all on the use of "love at first sight".
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Old 2007-04-23, 18:05   Link #1619
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is Lucky Star really that good of an anime that it deserves its own forum?? there's only been 2 episodes too. i dun understand.
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Old 2007-04-23, 18:14   Link #1620
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is Lucky Star really that good of an anime that it deserves its own forum?? there's only been 2 episodes too. i dun understand.
well with only 2 eps shown and the single thread going 1200+ posts im pretty sure that this series deserves its own section ~ and if its the comedy that you dont understand then its probably wise to quit :3
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