Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season - Episode 23 Discussion / Poll

[Roadie]

Soooo...

I won't comment on this series' apparent fall into the gutter...

I'll just ask who died.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

Spoilers from that "disgruntled staffer" said Louise would die in this episode... she did not die to my knowledge.

And I can't believe I thought before this episode that her potential death could be the most disappointing thing that could happen. Then again I think nobody saw the Gaga coming. Incendentally:

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

So far it's been CB versus between 8-16 or so MS and most engagements have ended in either a draw or a tactical retreat by one of the two groups. And you saw how quickly the Gundams were overwhelmed against those 108 MS. If Katharon hadn't shown up they probably wouldn't have been able to break through. If that was the response at the interception point I can only imagine what awaits at the coordinates Wang gave to CB.

I take this back, nobody could have even imagined this except for the guy that came up with the Gaga concept.

[Seibee]

Not clear on that, exactly. Regene got shot, but it's not inconceivable he'd have some sort of backup plan (like uploading his mind into Veda or something like that). And Patrick? Nah.

[Killer Tomato]

Gundam 00 just had to shoot itself in the foot. Sigh.

Billy got to Sumeragi right? So that means automatons are crawling EVERYWHERE in Ptolemy now?

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

Spoilers from that "disgruntled staffer" said Louise would die in this episode... she did not die to my knowledge.

He said she would be shot down, and he just thinks she dies.

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

And I can't believe I thought before this episode that her potential death could be the most disappointing thing that could happen. Then again I think nobody saw the Gaga coming.

The Gaga has got to go down as the stupidest mecha in the history of anime.

Its a bunch of kamikaze mechas using MP Trans-Am piloted by thousands of clones of the most useless characters in the series.

It ruins the real robot concept this series had, its incredibly stupid by itself, amd it ruins the uniqueness that Trans-Am has.

The only way it could get even stupider is if in the next episode Ribbons reveals that he also cloned the rest of the innovators including Anew, and Tieria, and uses those as Kamikaze pilots, only for Katharon's mechas to go Trans-Am, and for the ships to go Trans-Am followed by a scene where Katie and Sumeragi starts using Missle dodges like in Macross.

[Miles Teg]

About Patrick cockpit After what has happened with him in the first season I will take seriously all hint about his survival.



The new innovator MS, clearly show that for Ribbons the innovator are expendable pawn.

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by Charred Knight

He said she would be shot down, and he just thinks she dies.

ルイス23話で死亡

That does not say "I think she dies". That says "Louise dies in episode 23".

[Renegade334]

Random Curiosity is out, so pay your respects to the 2chan link. I'll terminate it right away.

[8MB]

Wow now everyone has trans-am now?

[gundam rider]

ribbons:"destroy the item!"

[Kaioshin Sama]

Okay so according to RC I've now learned something I didn't know previously and that was that Billy outright threw in with Ribbons. This probably explains how they were able to get the Trans-Am on the Gaga suits and thus mercifully alleviates a huge part of the issue I thought I had with this episode by providing some context for things. It still seems unfair, but war ain't fair and at least it sort of makes sense now......well aside from us not really knowing how Billy unlocked Trans-Am. In this case it comes off as similar to when Alejandro gave the GN-Drive Tau to the 3 Powers in Season 1 in order to allow them the ability to beat the Gundams. I'm wondering what was the bigger jump now, everyone getting GN-Drives or everyone getting Trans-Am.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

ルイス23話で死亡

That does not say "I think she dies". That says "Louise dies in episode 23".

It originally says something like I think she dies

http://ninteenpointzerofour.wordpres...ate/#more-2172

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

Okay so according to RC I've now learned something I didn't know previously and that was that Billy outright threw in with Ribbons. This probably explains how they were able to get the Trans-Am on the Gaga suits and thus mercifully alleviates a huge part of the issue I thought I had with this episode by providing some context for things. It still seems unfair, but war ain't fair and at least it sort of makes sense now......well aside from us not really knowing how Billy unlocked Trans-Am. In this case it comes off as similar to when Alejandro gave the GN-Drive Tau to the 3 Powers in Season 1 in order to allow them the ability to beat the Gundams. I'm wondering what was the bigger jump now, everyone getting GN-Drives or everyone getting Trans-Am.

I already said all that this thread

Also getting GN drives was much more important, before the Superpowers where pratically useless against Gundams, with GN drives the Super Powers had the advantage and defeated Celestial Being.

[yezhanquan]

Sounds like Ribbons really had Billy in the palm of his hands. Ribbons = last victor?

[Roadie]

Which changed to "dies". So yeah.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Charred Knight

It originally says something like I think she dies

http://ninteenpointzerofour.wordpres...ate/#more-2172



I already said all that this thread

Also getting GN drives was much more important, before the Superpowers where pratically useless against Gundams, with GN drives the Super Powers had the advantage and defeated Celestial Being.

Yeah, and at least the Gaga are possible to deal with. I still find it a wholly unnecessary plot twist, but at least I can sort of accept it now without having to condemn the whole shows final scenario as a pure ass pull.

Also apparently Ribbons appeared exactly as I thought he would at the top of the stairs (the now iconic Innovator entrance) to surprise Regene looking at the screenshots on RC.

[Roadie]

We still have 24 and 25 to go, you know...any amount of crazy things can happen then.

[Marikina]

So does the rebuilt Arche get Trans Am too?

[pingva]

Originally Posted by Marikina

So does the rebuilt Arche get Trans Am too?

It's next episode twist.

[Halibel-sama]

Originally Posted by Marikina

So does the rebuilt Arche get Trans Am too?

Ali Al-Saachez with Trans-Am capable Arche is a scary thought.

[Charred Knight]

The Arche needs a Super Trans-Am that makes the Arche gold

Trans-Am = Super Mode
Super Trans-Am = Hyper Mode