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Wigwams · 2017-07-05, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Eisdrache

Unless America can somehow prevent North Korean missiles from hitting SK/Japan/China, chances are 0%.

i dont think Mr "America First" Trump really cares about SK and Japan...

Valky · 2017-07-05, 21:40

Nah, he cares alright. There can be only one crazy fatass with funny hair. The world isn't wide enough for two. lol.

Seriously though, if it's an ICBM then he must care. It depends on the range but it is very possible to target US soil, especially Alaska and the West Coast.

Nuclear Warfare is currently depends on two crazy guy .. not really a good time to be alive.

Eisdrache · 2017-07-06, 00:25

It's not like Trump can just simply order a missile strike by himself. His generals and advisors have slightly more insight into the matter and they will all tell him not to do it.

**monir** · 2017-07-06, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Valky

Seriously though, if it's an ICBM then he must care. It depends on the range but it is very possible to target US soil, especially Alaska and the West Coast.

The two-staged rocket flew up to 1100 miles, so it can easily reach Hawaii. Alaska and the West Coast is not yet within their range but they aren't too far along.

Valky · 2017-07-06, 02:18

If it's only 1100 miles then it's not ICBM.

Some expert predict the new missile could reach more than 6000 km though. Very well enter the ICBM category. Then again, it's not like the NK could just instantly arm the missile today or tomorrow.

Ithekro · 2017-07-06, 02:36

Though I suppose they could sell it.

SeijiSensei · 2017-07-06, 07:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisdrache

It's not like Trump can just simply order a missile strike by himself. His generals and advisors have slightly more insight into the matter and they will all tell him not to do it.

Not to mention those annoying things like the Constitution and the War Powers Act. Shooting Tomahawks at Syria might be covered by stretching the Iraq "AUMF" resolution, but there is no such standing rationale for Asia. Tit-for-tat responses might be viewed as legal, using precedents as far back as Jefferson's response to the Barbary Pirates in 1803, but the DPRK would have to move first.

Xellos-_^ · 2017-07-09, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisdrache

It's not like Trump can just simply order a missile strike by himself. His generals and advisors have slightly more insight into the matter and they will all tell him not to do it.

either the ny times or the wash post did a story what it would take for Trump to order a nuclear strike and it was pretty much just a order form the president. The only thin you can hope is that someone in the chain of command disobey the order.

AnimeFan188 · 2017-08-06, 16:23

McMaster: U.S. Preparing for “Preventive War” with North Korea:

"The United States is preparing for all options to counter the growing threat from North
Korea, including launching a “preventive war,” national security adviser H.R. McMaster said
in an interview that aired Saturday on MSNBC. The comments come after North Korea
carried out two tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the past month and after the
president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea’s threats to attack the
U.S. with nuclear weapons."

See:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mcmaste...-korea/5602863

kampfer91 · 2017-08-07, 00:53

What will happen if NK got all trade ban lifted ?

The Green One · 2017-08-07, 15:03

I don't see that ever happening.

Toukairin · 2017-08-07, 18:41

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Originally Posted by kampfer91

What will happen if NK got all trade ban lifted ?

The only way that will happen is when the Kims and other heads of the regime are all dead while the country itself is forced to change mentalities. Until then, they are screwed and rightfully so.

The Green One · 2017-08-07, 21:46

What about the innocent civilians that can't leave and will die when they get nuked in retaliation when their glorious leader tries to actually nuke the US and damn the consequences.

Ithekro · 2017-08-07, 22:22

Best hope the retaliatory nukes are tactical and low yield. Or that the North Korean government and military don't use their population as shields. Usually these things are aimed at priority targets....Government structures if the critical hit is taking out Kim, and high threat military and production targets (missile bases, missile assembly buildings, and probably nuclear research centers.

Nadel · 2017-08-08, 06:51

I don´t think that North Korea will go so far and launch their nukes on the US. Kim isn´t really the wisest person on the Earth but he is not that stupid either to make such an foolish attack. North Korea couldn´t possible gain anything from it except the retaliatory strike. Korean nuclear reasearch has more value for Kim as a political tool to strengthen his own position than as an actual weapon. This is atleast my opinion but you never know what to expect from Kim..

Key Board · 2017-08-09, 22:48

Kim is more predictable than Trump

The Green One · 2017-08-10, 04:45

Kim hasn't been the picture of stability. He's relentlessly pushed the nuclear program for the express purpose of creating nuclear weapons. You can only threaten to use them so many times until you have to back up your threats. I don't think it's a matter of if he does it, more of a matter of when.

Key Board · 2017-08-10, 14:44

He's being doing that because it's the only "export" that has weight on the table, and because negotiations with US has broken down so many times. Thanks neocons!

North Korea is not a apocalyptic religious state like ISIL
It's a thug run organized crime country
If they have any long time goal it is the reunification of South and North Korea

The greatest threat is probably NK selling things to someone like ISIL
but this nuclear conflict saber rattling is certainly not helping things

Anh_Minh · 2017-08-10, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Green One

Kim hasn't been the picture of stability. He's relentlessly pushed the nuclear program for the express purpose of creating nuclear weapons.

That's not instability, that's a desire to survive and not get invaded like Saddam Hussein or Gaddafi.

Toukairin · 2017-08-10, 17:18

One question has been lingering in my mind recently: If John Kerry and the Obama administration had the balls to call out Israel's poor attitude towards peace in the Middle-East, why has the current Chinese administration not called North Korea out when the latter does something wrong like recently? The Chinese are missing one big opportunity to show the little vassal state as to who's the boss here.

2017-07-05, 21:40	Link #182
Valky Radioactive Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: The Big Durian	Nah, he cares alright. There can be only one crazy fatass with funny hair. The world isn't wide enough for two. lol. Seriously though, if it's an ICBM then he must care. It depends on the range but it is very possible to target US soil, especially Alaska and the West Coast. Nuclear Warfare is currently depends on two crazy guy .. not really a good time to be alive. __________________

2017-07-06, 02:18	Link #185
Valky Radioactive Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: The Big Durian	If it's only 1100 miles then it's not ICBM. Some expert predict the new missile could reach more than 6000 km though. Very well enter the ICBM category. Then again, it's not like the NK could just instantly arm the missile today or tomorrow. __________________

2017-07-06, 02:36	Link #186
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Though I suppose they could sell it. __________________

2017-08-07, 15:03	Link #191
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	I don't see that ever happening. __________________

2017-08-07, 21:46	Link #193
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	What about the innocent civilians that can't leave and will die when they get nuked in retaliation when their glorious leader tries to actually nuke the US and damn the consequences. __________________

2017-07-06, 00:25	Link #183
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	It's not like Trump can just simply order a missile strike by himself. His generals and advisors have slightly more insight into the matter and they will all tell him not to do it.

2017-08-06, 16:23	Link #189
AnimeFan188 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	McMaster: U.S. Preparing for “Preventive War” with North Korea: "The United States is preparing for all options to counter the growing threat from North Korea, including launching a “preventive war,” national security adviser H.R. McMaster said in an interview that aired Saturday on MSNBC. The comments come after North Korea carried out two tests of intercontinental ballistic missiles in the past month and after the president said he has been clear he will not tolerate North Korea’s threats to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons." See: http://www.globalresearch.ca/mcmaste...-korea/5602863

2017-08-07, 00:53	Link #190
kampfer91 Master Eugenist Join Date: Jul 2013	What will happen if NK got all trade ban lifted ?

2017-08-07, 22:22	Link #194
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Best hope the retaliatory nukes are tactical and low yield. Or that the North Korean government and military don't use their population as shields. Usually these things are aimed at priority targets....Government structures if the critical hit is taking out Kim, and high threat military and production targets (missile bases, missile assembly buildings, and probably nuclear research centers. __________________

2017-08-08, 06:51	Link #195
Nadel Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Age: 30	I don´t think that North Korea will go so far and launch their nukes on the US. Kim isn´t really the wisest person on the Earth but he is not that stupid either to make such an foolish attack. North Korea couldn´t possible gain anything from it except the retaliatory strike. Korean nuclear reasearch has more value for Kim as a political tool to strengthen his own position than as an actual weapon. This is atleast my opinion but you never know what to expect from Kim.. __________________ "When I die, I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did–in his sleep. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." Tired of overpriced games? Check the awesome discounts here: https://www.g2a.com/r/awesome-discounts-for-games-a-s

2017-08-09, 22:48	Link #196
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	Kim is more predictable than Trump __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2017-08-10, 04:45	Link #197
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Kim hasn't been the picture of stability. He's relentlessly pushed the nuclear program for the express purpose of creating nuclear weapons. You can only threaten to use them so many times until you have to back up your threats. I don't think it's a matter of if he does it, more of a matter of when. __________________

2017-08-10, 14:44	Link #198
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	He's being doing that because it's the only "export" that has weight on the table, and because negotiations with US has broken down so many times. Thanks neocons! North Korea is not a apocalyptic religious state like ISIL It's a thug run organized crime country If they have any long time goal it is the reunification of South and North Korea The greatest threat is probably NK selling things to someone like ISIL but this nuclear conflict saber rattling is certainly not helping things __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2017-08-10, 17:18	Link #200
Toukairin Banned Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: A city with a small mountain in the middle	One question has been lingering in my mind recently: If John Kerry and the Obama administration had the balls to call out Israel's poor attitude towards peace in the Middle-East, why has the current Chinese administration not called North Korea out when the latter does something wrong like recently? The Chinese are missing one big opportunity to show the little vassal state as to who's the boss here. Last edited by Toukairin; 2017-08-10 at 18:22.