GATE - Light Novel Discussion

[endarion88]

ok i finally read all of the pages of this thread and i would like some confirmation

novel ended at vol5-vol 10 for the "light" version

Spoiler for spoiler:

gate closed itami and some other stayed back and itami got his harem?

gaiden currently 4 volumes cover the story of 4 years since the end of vol 5 to the yet to be sequel series


now i would like to ask a question

Spoiler for question:

romance wise does itami and harem get anything done at least in gaiden or he still nver answered the girls? the only thing a bit serius i could find was a little conversation between him and rori whit her telling him something on the lines she won't let him go even whit the gate closed but was from vol 5 of the main novel if i got it right. i read of a grand wedding in gaiden 2 but that was not for any of them
so anything concrete happened yet?

[Hata]

Originally Posted by endarion88

so anything concrete happened yet?

sex? no. advance in relationship and understanding? yes.

[endarion88]

Originally Posted by Hata

sex? no. advance in relationship and understanding? yes.

can you be a bit more specific please ?

[Top Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Hata

while JSDF used mostly old weapons inside the Gate, two weapons are specifically new/current by the author for a reason, Panzerfaust 3 (instead of Howa 84RR) with a penetration of 700mm RHA is used because of the story requirement of how buff the flame dragon was, and Sumitomo M249 (copy of Minimi) instead of Sumitomo Type 62 machine gun because Type 62 sucks big time and not trust worthy.

The older JASDF anti-air missile is the HAWK and they would have to modify it to be anti-dragon.

On the good side: each missile weighs 3/4 of a ton and they get to about Mach 3.

On the bad side: They are designed to explode and send about 10,000 pieces of shrapnel into the path of oncoming aircraft, which works wonders on high performance jest but would only be a heavy sanding to a big Dragon (although it may blind one).

Altering the warhead to be a contact or penetrator probably wouldn't work, as the HAWK are microwave guided from the ground. The Dragons would be far too maneuverable to reliably track and hit.


Modern Stingers could track the Dragons, they are fairly agile, and they are designed to strike their targets, but their warheads would probably not be enough for a penetration. Now if you gave it a new warhead, say a shaped charge, or something akin to the M-21 anti tank mine's self-forging copper plate, that might work, if you can make it light enough to be carried by the missile and still have enough boom to hurt the Dragon. Tracking won't be a problem.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by endarion88

can you be a bit more specific please ?

basically beside Yao each gaiden focus on one of the harem, gaiden 1 Pina, 2 Rory, 3 Tuka, 4 Lelei, example would be

Spoiler for harem:

in gaiden 1 Pina kisses Itami, in gaiden 3 Itami would say things like “Tuka is my wife”, etc. Yao got a single page gaiden from gaiden 4 when Itami finally finds out where she sleeps each night, (he utterly did not care enough to find out before.) that is an improvement.

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

The older JASDF anti-air missile is the HAWK and they would have to modify it to be anti-dragon.

Hawk is not mobile and takes too long to “warm up”, not to mention the special territory JSDF did not have any on hand,

in this discussion you have to remember the ground rules the author set up, they can only use what they have on hand, which of course is also controlled by the author, many different weapons can defeat the flame dragon, the point is they do not know the spec of the flame dragon before entering the Gate, otherwise they would bring different weapons, thus setting up the heroic of Itami in the story. if it is me I would “borrow” a fully loaded A-10 from USAF and be done with it, but then that would not be exciting story telling wouldn't it?

btw the rumor has it the TV series will go 2 season 24 episodes, this means they will probably finish the flame dragon arc.

[endarion88]

@hata thanks for the answers i know it may be tedius

last thing please

Spoiler for question:

i think i missed this reading all the 100 pages at once, where exactly does yao sleep ?(from how you said it i though with him but how the hell he never noticed so i dropped the idea lol) and what about rori volume? i read t was about her past but there is some progress too?

[S3wvc]

Is it just me or the animation studio being lazy, theres only 1 row of the army and the scale of attack is very toned down, not to mention lack of gore and tid bits
Its already a midnight anime wheres the glory that is seen in the manga

[Amuris]

isn't this enough? Bullets don't rip people in half and showing random people getting their heads bashed in generally doesn't do that much to increase tension in a scene.

[Starlightz]

Originally Posted by Amuris

isn't this enough? Bullets don't rip people in half and showing random people getting their heads bashed in generally doesn't do that much to increase tension in a scene.

I'm not military / gun expert, but I believe .50 cal or stronger guns can rip people in half in one shot. Even some weaker ones can do that if enough bullets hit.

But yeah, it's an anime, even if a late night one. Don't expect the gore-fest in the manga at least in the TV broadcast version.

[FIBC]

a question. the manga is an adaptation of the first novel prints(5 novels) and the anime is an adaptation of the light novel version (10 novels), right?

[Tri-ring]

Originally Posted by FIBC

a question. the manga is an adaptation of the first novel prints(5 novels) and the anime is an adaptation of the light novel version (10 novels), right?

I really do not think there are any difference between the printed novels and what people call light novel. The big change was between the web novel and the one printed afterwards.

[RDNexus]

Courtesy of B-T:

Compared to the online serialization, the published volumes place a lesser weight on political commentary. Also, volume three has been substantially rewritten. The ending was also different. There are slight differences between the light novel and the previously published novel.

[Amuris]

Originally Posted by Starlightz

I'm not military / gun expert, but I believe .50 cal or stronger guns can rip people in half in one shot.

That's a common gun myth, I believe. The ones about .50 cal are hard to deal with. Mostly because even the army guys will argue back and forth or exaggerate. Many of them still believe that it will rip off limbs or injury you from the shockwave of a miss.

well, I'm not an expert either so who am I to say. All I can really say is I'm on the side saying it's a myth.

[smbjoshy]

Originally Posted by Starlightz

I'm not military / gun expert, but I believe .50 cal or stronger guns can rip people in half in one shot. Even some weaker ones can do that if enough bullets hit.

But yeah, it's an anime, even if a late night one. Don't expect the gore-fest in the manga at least in the TV broadcast version.

A half dozen rounds from a .50 cal machine gun will turn a human body into swis cheese easily. A friend of mine showed me a video of terrorists executing an FSA soldier, they had a .50 cal mounted on a truck with the end of the barrel pointed point blank at this poor guy's head. Single round = head completely gone.

[Botan_TM]

It looks like the biggest difference between print editions were different illustrators, and so different style of illustrations.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by endarion88

Spoiler for question:

i think i missed this reading all the 100 pages at once, where exactly does yao sleep ?(from how you said it i though with him but how the hell he never noticed so i dropped the idea lol) and what about rori volume? i read t was about her past but there is some progress too?

Spoiler for gaiden:

1. a shed in all but name a dog house,

2. umm.. a lot of things happen in gaiden 2, (by far the best gaiden of the 4 IMO, follow by 1, 4, 3) I have no recollection of anything specific, must be because Itami was busy setting flags with Mabel

Originally Posted by FIBC

a question. the manga is an adaptation of the first novel prints(5 novels) and the anime is an adaptation of the light novel version (10 novels), right?

Novel
1. free (web) version
only cover the first 5 original novels, complete story, tragedy ending, can no longer be found on official website.

2. hardbound (novel) version
ending is significant rewritten, now including the 4 gaiden and possible future part II.

3. bunko (light novel paperback) version
beyond correct grammar/word mistakes, and new illustrator for cover and additional insert arts, no difference compare to hardbound except cheaper print/price and split each hardbound into two books,

manga is an adaptation of the final novel story, period, with some additions and military details, easter eggs, etc. not found in original story and less political oriented. but it is true when the manga started the bunko has not come on line, yet.

anime adaptation is using the same final pay novel version story, but to be more specific, anime is using the bunko character design set.

Originally Posted by xrick

Courtesy of B-T: volume three has been substantially rewritten.

Spoiler for book 3:

that is because, ahem! in the original web version, Pina was the earlier antagonist going against JSDF, while in the novel version her role was replaced by Zorzal, you can see the clear path for Pina to join the harem starting from the rewritten book 2 and cemented in book 3.

Originally Posted by Botan_TM

It looks like the biggest difference between print editions were different illustrators, and so different style of illustrations.

the hardbound cover illustrator is known for his fantasy game setting painting, (his dragon drawing on pixiv is awesome.) the bunko guy is known for a softer style but still his main focus is on gun, sword, and girl, the manga guy is the famous hard core military otaku that is leaning toward drawing furry girl with big breast.

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btw, I just reread ch47, there are bonus and foreshadow everywhere, and not just the new additional story not in the original novel, right off page 5 you see the tails of two JASDF C-1 transport planes, they were shown on the first chapter of the manga-novel book 3 arc for a reason and not just some random equipments on a military base.

[FIBC]

Thanks for the answer

[luffyxnami]

After checking out the jp wiki, I have a question about the second prince. How the heck is he not kill or punish for the stuff he pull with china? He even became "governor" of that place?

[IAmAsianNoob]

How old was Sherry

[bakato]

Hey where is Sugawara with the little girl?