2014-02-23, 13:54 | Link #2001 | |
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What post did you quote? you quote my post but leave the content out.
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2014-02-23, 14:13 | Link #2002 | ||
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2014-02-23, 14:22 | Link #2003 | |
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sending few million to billion volts against someone will not kill them
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2014-02-23, 14:44 | Link #2004 | |
I’m sorry, Kamijou-san!!
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Take Mikoto, I'm pretty sure that what she did in Railgun S was likely worse than what Touma did... I don't know, it all depends on your point of view. |
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2014-02-23, 15:05 | Link #2007 |
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Mikoto destroyed laboratories, she has not killed, threatened, or did really horrible things. the only "good" character in some way done something really bad was the Hamazura in vol 22.
Furthermore, the question I raised was not to compare the deeds of Touma with the other characters, but that it is strange that many fans see him like Jesus. |
2014-02-23, 15:11 | Link #2008 | |
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no he isn't and Touma would never do anything like that, saying he needed to lock himself inside of the bathroom isn't meant to be taken so seriously
even thinking of Touma doing anything sick as rape is ridiculous. ''hitting women'' isn't an evil thing. What do you think they're little babies or some shit? They can fight and handle themselves Not to mention that they were out to kill Touma Quote:
you guys are trying real too hard to make Touma seem ''edgy'' and ''not so pure'' it just looks crazy
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2014-02-23, 15:53 | Link #2010 |
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@kenju of the right, you dont believe that he is evil now?? he tries to help a mass-murder b*tch who killed a hugh amount of innocent people only for a selfish goal ,
where i must say that EVEN accel and fiamma killed because of a 'good' reason, accel: he doesnt wanted to hurt or kill people... fiamma: wanted to save the world.... othinus: wanted to go back to her own world (which sounds, as if the grimoires in her head messed more up than we knew), in short: SHE IS EVIL and touma tries to SAVE HER, which makes him into someone who helped a being MORE EVIL than Hitler...... or i understood your post wrong |
2014-02-23, 16:24 | Link #2011 |
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i mean that of course he isn't a saint but to say that he's evil is an over statement
considering the fact that he isn't actually trying to bring any ill intentions you could say that after what happened in Version Alpha but saying he's a big bad evil man is a bit too much
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2014-02-23, 16:33 | Link #2012 |
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I wouldn't call 'going home' as selfish as opposed to 'human nature'.
If you found yourself in a world that wasn't your own, you'd of course want to go back right? True she could have just adapted and lived in the world she was currently in, it still wasn't 'her home'. I mean, look at Odyssey, he had settled in various places for a while but eventually knew that he needed to return from whence he came. Same thing with Othinus; she wanted to go back to that place. Yes she killed innocent people in the process, but there still stands the possibility that things would have changed if she had succeeded. If she had gone back to her world, would the events of Baggage City and Hawaii have occurred still? If so, all those lives lost would have never been lost at all. The only person who would have been lost was Touma. So is the desire to go home really that selfish? Is it wrong to try and leave a place you really don't belong to? Once her chance to leave was gone, she took the only remaining path available and chose to die rather than stay. That was a direct conflict to what Touma believed, because in exchange for returning to his 'home' she was forced to give up her ticket for his sake. She demonstrated selflessness in that moment, and Touma did the exact same in my eyes as well. Because he turned his back on the world he was apart of. Basically tearing up the ticket given to him and chose to stick with her and face this 'unknown world' where everyone is his enemy.
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2014-02-23, 16:33 | Link #2013 |
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yeah, he isnt really bad, maybe i wrote it wrong
i wanted to say that he is not good, afterall he protects a monster now, and from my point of view: she shouldnt survive this.... i know how i could break toumas 'iron' will to protect her: i will show him how much pain she created all over the world, humans who lost everything only because of her selfish actions, if he really insists to protect someone like that: the only way i could describe his behavior would be.....crazy..... EDIT: @smokin.. the same applies for accel and fiamma but they are still 'the monster who slaughtered innocent clones' and'the one who caused WW3' , they also followed selfish reasons but First: it wasnt in such a large scale (WW3 is debattable) second: they goal was for the sake of others, in my eyes: they are far-far-far more 'nicer' than othinus, who (even if it is human-like) only for her going home brought nothing but Chaos/fear/death for the world, and (in my eyes: the goal is second to the methods used to acomplish it): accel as Level 6 would/could also revive every dead clone, fiamma would/could also revive every death human back, but in the end they was stopped, to say that othinus isnt so bad because (maybe) the innocent humans wouldnt die is rather odd.....(by accels/fiammas goal it was clear)... Last edited by LevelSeven; 2014-02-23 at 16:49. |
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Spoiler for NT 9:
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Yeah this was a long analysis, but I think it's one of my better ones, and while making this analysis I realized NT 9 was much better than I thought it was especially because of what I just realized while making that analysis. |
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2014-02-23, 20:35 | Link #2015 | |
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2014-02-23, 22:26 | Link #2016 |
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i just went back to railgun tv trope and noticed touma became somewhat of a scrappy during railgun S season 2 where he took the spotlight from mikoto and made her look like a damsel in distress which psst quite allot of fans.
seems to imply the Japanese fans were quite psst as well. i know this was random but felt like bringing it up for some reason. Last edited by Goldzero; 2014-02-23 at 22:38. |
2014-02-23, 22:29 | Link #2017 | |
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2014-02-23, 22:31 | Link #2018 | |
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They give Accel enough grief over killing clones. Imagine how much ammo they would have if he actually hurt her.
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2014-02-23, 22:43 | Link #2019 | |
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then again, mikoto fans do tend to jump to conclusions too much and overreact whenever bribri gets hurt or saved. there are reasons why they are looked down at by the fanbase and other anime viewers and many tend to be good points(though not all of them are bad). |
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2014-02-23, 22:56 | Link #2020 | |
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Be glad you have one of your own over there keeping watch, people. (Besides, most of the complaints are in "Your Mileage May Vary", which is bound to contain things you disagree with)
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