2010-01-03, 19:03 | Link #2001 | |
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2010-01-03, 21:33 | Link #2002 |
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According to the real Izu Islands, Oshima Machi, a small collection of villages on a part of the Izu Islands temperature in October is as follows:
Max: Avg: Min: Temperature: Max Temperature 26 °C 21 °C 16 °C Mean Temperature 24 °C 18 °C 14 °C Min Temperature 21 °C 15 °C 11 °C Found here http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Tourism...Vacations.html It doesn't seem very much out of the question.
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2010-01-04, 18:17 | Link #2004 |
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She appears in the TIPS of the game. After EP4, if you keep shuffling through the Siestas you'll eventually reach a black and white "torn up" Siesta, resurrect her and you see Siesta 556 alive and fully colored. :3
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2010-01-04, 18:46 | Link #2005 |
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I don't know if this is the right place to post this but.... i have a pair of questions...
Why does the Knox's 5th is not mentioned? I know it says that 'No Chinaman must figure in the story", but what I wanna know is if 'chinaman' has another meaning apart from 'an asian'. If it doesn't have another meaning, why does Knox create this commandment? Does it have any sense? The other question I had was if Battler's last blue theory was really ok. He said that he was the child from 19 years ago and the culprit, but Virgilia said in red that he was not the culprit in any of the games. Sry if I have a lot of grammar mistakes while writing, I'm actually latinoamerican. Thx. |
2010-01-04, 19:55 | Link #2007 | |
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the theory was ok, since virgilia's red text only applyes to the previous games. this Episode should make perfectly clear what's the meaning of blue text, btw-. |
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2010-01-04, 20:01 | Link #2008 | |
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Since the Japanese are an Asian race (and Ryukishi is a Japanese fellow obviously), it was probably for the best to remove it. Just a guess but I think Knox's 5th means no Asian's can take a figurehead role in the story, so Knox's 5th is probably already broken as well since most of the characters in Umineko are from Japanese decent.
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2010-01-04, 20:23 | Link #2009 |
do you know ベアトリーチェ様?
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Someone (I don't remember who, sorry) linked this a while ago, and I think it pretty much sums up the deal behind Knox's 5th: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YellowPeril
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2010-01-04, 20:57 | Link #2010 |
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Yeah, I think the reasoning behind Knox's Fifth is because there was a theme in some mystery stories of the 19th century/early 20th century of the culprit being an Asian "foreigner", which Knox felt was a copout.
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2010-01-05, 17:16 | Link #2011 |
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Huh... Playing through the game, I noticed something. Isn't Knox's third "Not more than one secret room or passage is allowable." and not "It is forbidden for hidden passages to exist?" A mistake on Ryu's part or a clever ploy by Bernkastel to make Battler believe in a lie?
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2010-01-05, 17:21 | Link #2013 |
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Indeed, I read that it was not intended as a racist thing but rather removing the "evil foreigner is always the culprit!" thing.
I think the real big change is that in all the classical Knox rules I read, it is basically "Not more then one secret passage is permissible." Yet Umineko's Knox rules just deny them outright. The other one being a part of rule one that was taken out "The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow." That seems important, but I'm not quite sure why. |
2010-01-05, 17:54 | Link #2016 | |
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2010-01-05, 19:06 | Link #2018 | |
Homo Ludens
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So yes, there is an underground passage between the mansion and Kuwadorian, but it's not a secret underground passage. |
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2010-01-05, 21:13 | Link #2019 |
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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I need someone to review my thought process to show me if I'm missing anything. There are a total of NINE question that I tried to answer myself.
Feel free to respond with: 1) More questions, 2) More answers/insights to my questions, and 3) Rebuttals to my analysis. I'd hate to think I'm right when I'm totally off. Spoiler for Seriously, read this.:
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2010-01-05, 22:02 | Link #2020 |
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ha, yeah; while I disagree with beatrice shannon being a real culprit and more of an onlooker and I think kanon is the culprit I agree with most of you reasoning.
I will have to double check the red text, but your pink text brings back the theory that there is more that one kinzo ring. |
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