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There is no limit in what UBW can trace as long as Archer/Shirou knows the target, have enough mana, and can find the material for it. Since Archer can trace Excalibur, Avalon, also made by the faries, which are of the same material, is possible to be traced. However, he just doesn't have enough mana for that. |
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2008-06-21, 11:05 | Link #2025 | |
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2008-06-21, 11:06 | Link #2026 | |
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2008-06-21, 22:24 | Link #2027 |
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I'm guessing Shirou can trace Avalon because he was aware it was inside of him and even once it was removed it had been such a vital part of his being that he knows it better than any other NP he's seen. I'm not sure if Archer ever knew it was in him or not. And even if he did, he doesn't have the advantage of sticking around after blowing that much mana. Shirou completely overloads his circuits to trace Avalon--such a thing would cause Archer to disappear so it wouldn't really help him anyways.
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2008-06-21, 22:50 | Link #2028 | |
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More to the point, I know that UBW can only trace A++ rank items because it's mentioned in the description. Archer cannot replicate anything he doesn't understand the concept of and UBW lets him instantly comprehend the concept of any A++ weapons or lower. Spoiler for Archer:
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2008-06-22, 00:39 | Link #2029 |
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Archer is only capable of tracing weapons that has the output of A++ rank because of his 'down rank sickness'--An A++ rank output traced weapon can only be achieved by tracing an EX rank weapon, which when downgraded, is A++. So far there is no any weapon higher than EX rank so UBW's maximum rank is A++.
As for Shirou tracing Avalon, one thing is because he just too Avalon out the day before, so his magic circuits in him still take the shape of it, allowing Shirou to effortlessly trace Avalon(he skipped all steps of tracing). For Archer, it has been many years that Avalon has left his body, and his magic circuits no longer remember its shape. |
2008-06-22, 15:16 | Link #2033 |
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Exactly what it sounds like. Each servant can only hold so much mana total while the income is how much mana the master can actually supply the servant with. Saber, under a good master, can hold I think 3000 mana or something like that while under Shirou she's only being provided with around 1300 or so. Shirou, as a pretty bad magus, cannot give her more than that as it's beyond his capacity. Rin, on the other hand can give Saber enough to use Excalibur twice, which takes somewhere in the nature of 1000 mana. Regardless of how much the master can give her she can still never go beyond 3000.
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2008-06-22, 20:47 | Link #2034 | |
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2008-06-22, 22:10 | Link #2035 |
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I can't remember the number under Kiritsugu, but according to Fuyuki under Shirou Saber has about 1200-1300 total mana capacity, 1500 under Rin and 4500 under Sakura. And each Exacliblast costs 700-800 and she could use it three times under Kiritsugu so she'd have at least 2100 mana under him. Regardless, the mana capacity does change depending on who the Master is.
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2008-06-23, 12:47 | Link #2037 |
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I used the old Fuyuki. It still exists using the web archive.
http://web.archive.org/web/200705110...om/Magic#Prana That should be helpful to you as well Blade_Lord. It's a little hard to navigate, but if you want info on FSN that that's the place.
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2008-06-24, 01:10 | Link #2038 |
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Does Saber die after the end of this show or does she just fall unconscious..
And is there any plans to animate Fate/hollow ataraxia...? And are their any differences between the anime and game of Fate/stay night...and is it worth it to play the game after watching the anime?
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Some changes... * Rule breaker can transfer control over any servant it hits; during the second play through, Caster keeps taking extra servants under her. Including Saber and Archer. * When the line comes "Caster, you should kill them outright instead of just making them sleep, that would be easier for all of us.", it's Archer (the red one) and not Kuzuki who says it. * Archer is non-nerfed like in the anime. * When Caster starts getting weak, Archer kills her and takes over as main Villain. * You find out how the non-mage Kuzuki got a servant. * How the non-mage Shinji got his servant. So yes, it's worth playing because it's far better than the anime. |
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2008-06-24, 04:48 | Link #2040 | |
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