(L) Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru.

[Heat066]

Originally Posted by csuree

Hmm. Don't really know what to say here. He started to feel the efforts of the girls, and the seriousness of their decisions. But this situation creates something that he knows neither girl would want, but because of the request they will lose the club, no matter who wins.

Ohh. I think I heard the Hachiman self-destroy bomb just started ticking. Meaning, I presume Hikki will do something reckless again for the sake of the club and the request. If he just thinks of the request, then he is repeating the same thing as in the past volumes. Now knowing the girls' determination, he will take that into account and prevent the "disbanding" of the club. If he would do that, it would be a step forward as he would take other people's feelings into account. But thjs positive side would quickly be negated by his sacrifice. So he gets nowhere but at least he'd solve 2 problems at once.

The thing is the story has gotten to the point, that this is only a speculation based on what I'd do if I were Hachiman.

The double date seriously started a chain of events that will have a great impact later on. I'd say it was a key moment in the progression of the series.

Don't wanna spoil it for you, but he takes the third option, seek help, won't say anything else.

[csuree]

your spoiler already happened, so I'm gonna go and assume he will seek help from Shizuka sensei or Haruno, as he needs something solid to do this time.

Now seeking help is also good, since he starts thinking about the consequences of his actions.

Btw. Do we have a vol. 8 Summary somewhere, so I don't guess wrong every time I come up with a theory, because I feel myself sooo stupid in those moments.
Thanks in advance

[SomeChineseGuy]

http://gensakuchuu.wordpress.com/201...chigatteiru-8/

There you go.

[lijenstina]

This chapter is interesting. Makes a great setup for the later events.

Spoiler:

Above all else, Yuigahama was a wonderful girl.

"You never know the value of what you have till you lose it" or something amongst those lines.

Hearing the world "effectively" told by Yukino made an impression on Hikigaya.

Spoiler:

“Effectively”, huh?

That word awfully struck a chord with me. She wasn’t the only one who sought for efficiency. He, who would act with that as his reason, was someone similar.

Basically, he was confronted with a role reversal. Yukino has joined the dark side of cold rationality even though she can hurt others (the club) and herself in the process.

Yui has totally different motives (emotional, it's not a selfish act) - because she cares about the club, she would go so far to protect it. However, this action would still jeopardize it's fate.

Now we have it crystallized what will push Hikigaya into motion. So we come to the crux of the interesting part - his motives will not be the usual suspects - what is the most effective solution for the problem and disregarding the possible fallout from the self sacrifice bravado. This time, the consequences for others are the much more important part of the equation. It's clearly voiced here:

Spoiler:

There was nothing better than this as far as methods were concerned.

The accepted request from Isshiki would be settled.

But that was just the result.

But most likely, the club would be gone.

I think that this will affect his way of thinking from now on, but for that we'll have to see what will happen in the future volumes.

[SomeChineseGuy]

On topic.

The chapter was actually heartwarming in many ways: Hikki admitting Yui is a wonderful girl, both of them admitting they care about the club... If only the situation was a little less messy.

[king12354]

Originally Posted by SomeChineseGuy

On topic.

The chapter was actually heartwarming in many ways: Hikki admitting Yui is a wonderful girl, both of them admitting they care about the club... If only the situation was a little less messy.

Do they really care about the club, or is it an euphemism that they care about each other? I'm more inclined to think the latter.

[SuitUp]

Originally Posted by king12354

Do they really care about the club, or is it an euphemism that they care about each other? I'm more inclined to think the latter.

The Club = The 3 of them, no need to clarify that, it's a given.

[righteoustrickster01]

I think if yuihama was going to sacrifice herself for Yukino and Hachiman. So there relainship continue

futher whichever way it go. I think she okay with H +++ Y together. As long there together to keep each other company. Or it can be the three of they together.

i think Yui get the lonely life Yukino and hachiman would be if there would separete.

[SomeChineseGuy]

I think if yuihama was going to sacrifice herself for Yukino and Hachiman. So there relainship continue

And I think she won't give up the shipping war relationship pursue that easily, especially after Hikki's characteristic of her in this chapter.

It's just as that: they have the their precious club, and they all want to save it.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by SomeChineseGuy

And I think she won't give up the shipping war relationship pursue that easily, especially after Hikki's characteristic of her in this chapter.

It's just as that: they have the their precious club, and they all want to save it.

I kind of wonder about Yukino on that. I mean it's strongly implied Yukino is working so hard on this to prevent Hikigaya from doing something self-destructive/self sacrificing again, but she's being really mean about it. Possibly also short sighted on whatever long term effect it could have on people around her. Or you know, very short sighted on said long term effects.

[SomeChineseGuy]

Originally Posted by anonfr

I kind of wonder about Yukino on that. I mean it's strongly implied Yukino is working so hard on this to prevent Hikigaya from doing something self-destructive/self sacrificing again, but she's being really mean about it. Possibly also short sighted on whatever long term effect it could have on people around her. Or you know, very short sighted on said long term effects.

That's the point, I think.

[0226]

I kind of wonder about Yukino on that. I mean it's strongly implied Yukino is working so hard on this to prevent Hikigaya from doing something self-destructive/self sacrificing again, but she's being really mean about it. Possibly also short sighted on whatever long term effect it could have on people around her. Or you know, very short sighted on said long term effects.

so, yukinoshita is trying to protect hikki?

[csuree]

Nah. I think it is only pride. Hikki solved 2 major requests alone, ant Yukinoshita is just, upset that they couldn't do a thing. Remember that Yukino is quite full of pride.

Even if she has feelings forcthe cub and its members, the pride of a girl of her caliber should not be neglected. And Yuigahama will not give up on Hikki so easily. Remeber when they did something together and then Yui came in saying something like "That is not fair" or something along those lines.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by 0226

so, yukinoshita is trying to protect hikki?

Well, it's heavily implied,maybe just to me, that Yunkinoshita is trying to prevent Hikki from using his usual methods for solving problems. She's very unhappy with his way of doing things, his self destruction and self sacrificing. I think she wants to prevent him from doing it, as well as show him and her way is the better way of doing things.

I personally think part of her is trying to protect him. Unconsciously or not. I mean, she's really seriously angry at him, and she's seriously angry that he decided to come up with a new self destruction plan by purposely botching a speech and getting a bunch of hate for it.

Originally Posted by csuree

Nah. I think it is only pride. Hikki solved 2 major requests alone, ant Yukinoshita is just, upset that they couldn't do a thing. Remember that Yukino is quite full of pride.

Even if she has feelings forcthe cub and its members, the pride of a girl of her caliber should not be neglected. And Yuigahama will not give up on Hikki so easily. Remeber when they did something together and then Yui came in saying something like "That is not fair" or something along those lines.

I think what you said is the other half of Yukino's reasoning. I still hold part of her is trying to change Hikki or prove something to him, as well as maybe trying to protect him. But the other half of it is definitely her pride. She's as sure her way of doing things is the correct way as Hikki is, and she is hellbent on taking the lead to prove it.

[Flunch]

I wonder, what is club for Hachiman? Ppl saying that the club is the 3 of them, ofc, but what about their own vision of the club? I mean, Hachiman denies all real-lifers, but again it's just bravado, he sought for 'youth' as others, but couldn't have it all in all. And so it happened, and he was forced into the club, and many things happened etc., and now, what is the club for him? Isn't it that similar to the 'youth' he seek for deep down in his heart(this line should have told that in my vision the club symbolized youth , but can't get right words for it so my appologies)?

[lijenstina]

Originally Posted by Flunch

I wonder, what is club for Hachiman? Ppl saying that the club is the 3 of them, ofc, but what about their own vision of the club? I mean, Hachiman denies all real-lifers, but again it's just bravado, he sought for 'youth' as others, but couldn't have it all in all. And so it happened, and he was forced into the club, and many things happened etc., and now, what is the club for him? Isn't it that similar to the 'youth' he seek for deep down in his heart(this line should have told that in my vision the club symbolized youth , but can't get right words for it so my appologies)?

First third of the 7th chapter is translated. He asks himself that question:

Spoiler:

Yukinoshita and Yuigahama. In the event that either one of them becomes the student council president, what problem might occur? That was the loss of the Service Club. That was fine in itself. It was inevitable. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later. Even if nothing came up, once we graduated, the club would disappear.

Then what was the problem? I already knew from the start that the club would disappear. So where was the problem there?

Wait, no, in the first place, why was I trying to look for a problem?

After talking to Komachi he comes up with an explanation of his need to preserve it even though he couldn't find any flaw with the rationale of the Yui's and Yukino's actions in the context of the Iroha's demand.

Spoiler:

But if you didn’t ever meet with the person you got along with, then you’d drift apart anyway.
.......
I just didn’t want anyone to be hurt.

For the first time, he clearly voiced his concern about the feelings of those involved. So, the club now is the relationships between them. Preserving it would also mean preventing them of drifting away even though they do get along. There is a nice parallel with his relation to Komachi. Being 15 years together as brother and sister surely helped in become good siblings that are now. Hachiman needs time to open up. He doesn't seek friends around and needs a context, a framework for him to establish a connection with someone (and equally important for others to understand him). For him, that link is the club.

[Heat066]

Originally Posted by lijenstina

For the first time, he clearly voiced his concern about the feelings of those involved. So, the club now is the relationships between them. Preserving it would also mean preventing them of drifting away even though they do get along. There is a nice parallel with his relation to Komachi. Being 15 years together as brother and sister surely helped in become good siblings that are now. Hachiman needs time to open up. He doesn't seek friends around and needs a context, a framework for him to establish a connection with someone (and equally important for others to understand him). For him, that link is the club.

I think he already made a connection with Hayama, just a look at the incident in the cafe, and you see he said what he really felt to Hayama without any fear or constraints, for good or bad, he did it, and that's a first.

[Heat066]

Spyro updated, 2 parts of chapter 7 are up.

[SuitUp]

^
That man is really putting on a colossal effort to finish this before volume 9 gets published.

[Heat066]

Originally Posted by SuitUp

^
That man is really putting on a colossal effort to finish this before volume 9 gets published.

Yeah, respect to this man