Tokyo Ravens [Light Novel]

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by Junkko

Wait, who's mother.

It's a figure of speech, he doesn't mean that literally. He's just saying everyone in the magic community at least on a subconscious level believe in the rumor one way or another.

Originally Posted by anonfr

I meant vehement as in: "marked by forceful energy" since you seemed a bit forceful about it. Vehement in general doesn't mean attacking aggressively, actually. It's more like impassioned or enthusiastic.
Since you said "Never" followed by "not even once" for emphasis, also followed by an explanation. It seemed a little vehement, with the emphasis and what not, like "No no no sir, it is not like that, absolutely not, it is like this."
It left me bewildered.
And confused, as does the attacking part. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

Ah cool. Sorry about that, it really wasn't my intent as mentioned previously.

[Junkko]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

It's a figure of speech, he doesn't mean that literally. He's just saying everyone in the magic community at least on a subconscious level believe in the rumor one way or another.

Ahh~ I see.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by Junkko

Ahh~ I see.

ahaha Yeah sorry, it's an Idiom, I forget how hard those are for non-native english speakers.

Anyways, I'm kind of mad about the whole Kakugyouki thing. I'm positive he was the first one to notice who Yakou really was. Before anyone else, and he didn't tell anyone, except for making Saotome, though I think she figured it out on her own after seeing Kon as well.

He just let all that horrible stuff go down due to the misunderstanding. I mean, I know there's not a lot of people he could tell, but he could at least have mentioned it to Natsume or something. I just feel like a lot of grief could have been avoided. I think I'm bitter and unreasonable, but oh well.

It's kind of funny how so many people knew so much about Yakou but really only 2 put together "Fox girl... Tsuchimikado.. Yakou?" I know it's a stretch but, and it'd ruin the literary device of the "Big Reveal" but it could have at least crossed someone's mind. At least in retrospect.

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by anonfr

ahaha Yeah sorry, it's an Idiom, I forget how hard those are for non-native english speakers.

Anyways, I'm kind of mad about the whole Kakugyouki thing. I'm positive he was the first one to notice who Yakou really was. Before anyone else, and he didn't tell anyone, except for making Saotome, though I think she figured it out on her own after seeing Kon as well.

He just let all that horrible stuff go down due to the misunderstanding. I mean, I know there's not a lot of people he could tell, but he could at least have mentioned it to Natsume or something. I just feel like a lot of grief could have been avoided. I think I'm bitter and unreasonable, but oh well.

It's kind of funny how so many people knew so much about Yakou but really only 2 put together "Fox girl... Tsuchimikado.. Yakou?" I know it's a stretch but, and it'd ruin the literary device of the "Big Reveal" but it could have at least crossed someone's mind. At least in retrospect.

To be fair if he had said anything, events could have gone at lot worse than they did, not to mention the truth at that point would have just confused Natsume who wasn't even aware of her true origins. Besides he was serious about wanting minimal involvement in this conflict.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

To be fair if he had said anything, events could have gone at lot worse not to mention the truth at that point would have just confused Natsume who wasn't even aware she of her true origins. Besides he was seriously about wanting minimal involvement in this conflict.

You're right, but, I'm just kind of mad. Anger doesn't rely on logic! It's sort of the same reason I'm kind of mad at Yasuzumi. It got to a point where things escalated, and mentioning the real purpose and giving some prior knowledge could have helped make it so the raven coat didn't go Berserk?

Any new Volume 11 info on Touji? Last I heard, he was officially "Missing" "Dropped out" and training with Kagami. Is that pretty much it or was he up to other stuff?

Do we know what Suzuka was looking for?

[The One-way Road]

Originally Posted by anonfr

ahaha Yeah sorry, it's an Idiom, I forget how hard those are for non-native english speakers.

Anyways, I'm kind of mad about the whole Kakugyouki thing. I'm positive he was the first one to notice who Yakou really was. Before anyone else, and he didn't tell anyone, except for making Saotome, though I think she figured it out on her own after seeing Kon as well.

He just let all that horrible stuff go down due to the misunderstanding. I mean, I know there's not a lot of people he could tell, but he could at least have mentioned it to Natsume or something. I just feel like a lot of grief could have been avoided. I think I'm bitter and unreasonable, but oh well.

It's kind of funny how so many people knew so much about Yakou but really only 2 put together "Fox girl... Tsuchimikado.. Yakou?" I know it's a stretch but, and it'd ruin the literary device of the "Big Reveal" but it could have at least crossed someone's mind. At least in retrospect.

I haven't read the novels further than they have been translated, but in Volume 7 ch 1 at the end at the bar Kakugyouki wondered to himself why Harutora hadn't awakened yet, and in episode 20(?) he was surprised that there was a curse on him.

It might be that Kakugyouki believed Harutora would remember on his own and that there was nothing to intrefere with as far as he knew. And he did intrefere, in his own way, by warning Natsume as soon as he realized something was wrong with Harutora.

[Iron Maw]

I think it's fair to be a bit mad, as long as you are aware they have their reasons for it, it's not necessary agree with them. At least for Kakgyouki he had finally become more honest with himself in vol 9 and thrown his lot with his former friends.

As for the rest of what the characters are doing in vol 11, unfortunately we only have general summary to go on right now. We have wait a bit for something more detailed and specific. It does seem like Touji dropped out of academy is working with Onmyo Agency now though.

Originally Posted by anonfr

Do we know what Suzuka was looking for?

I'm not so sure she is still looking for anything besides Harutora's whereabouts like everyone else, but it seems like Yashamaru has managed to have her roped into their plans as of the moment.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

I think it's fair to be a bit mad, as long as you are aware they have their reasons for it, it's not necessary agree with them. At least for Kakgyouki he had finally become more honest with himself in vol 9 and thrown his lot with his former friends.

As for the rest of what the characters are doing in vol 11, unfortunately we only have general summary to go on right now. We have wait a bit for something more detailed and specific. It does seem like Touji dropped out of academy is working with Onmyo Agency now though.


I'm not so sure she is still looking for anything besides Harutora's whereabouts like everyone else, but it seems like Yashamaru has managed to have her roped into their plans as of the moment.

I don't like Yashamaru. I thought she was looking for something, because in the last illustration, it looks like she got caught looking through a bunch of papers. I figure she was looking for a document, or a report, or some kind of research paper. I just really wonder what it was. She looked pretty terrified too, so if she was looking for some kind of report it might've been an important one.

[Iron Maw]

I can't confirm or deny that. The spoilers gave me more of a impression that she was helping them with something rather than her stumbling on to some secret though IMO. Yashamaru may have been coming around to check on her progress. This vol is suppose to give us a more clues that reveal a little more on what Takiko's group is ultimately after.

I guess it's about time for a new chapter, going by the usual pattern.

[AnimeManiac001]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Though I'm still yet to have time to read the volume, I read a summary.

Spoiler for Volume 11:

The volume starts explaining what happened with Natsume right after volume 9 ended.
Harutora used a shikigami to inform Yasuzumi about Natsume's whereabouts.
Upon waking up, Natsume had a talk with Yasuzumi who told her of the events that had just happened, and she remembered that she died.

After they left the temple from volume 10. They decided to go to Tokyo.
In Tokyo, they hid themselves in Tsuchimikado Yuuko's family house (Yasuzumi's late wife). There, they were able to be at peace for a while.
Natsume remembers what she talked about with Yasuzumi, the deal about her birth.
She's a child who was abandoned in front of the Wakasugi manor.
After seeing Natsume, Yasuzumi came up with the idea of switching her and Harutora.
Even though it seemed that Yasuzumi didn't love Natsume, the fact is his late wife, even if she had no blood connection to her, loved her regardless. He told her that much.

During dinner, Natsume lit a Hangonko for her soul that has been tied to her body.
After she was done with dinner, she decided on the method through which she would contact her friends - the method was a letter.
The one who was responsible to deliver the letter to Tenma was Akino.
The delivery of the letters was a success, but a reply was not expected.
For simplicity's sake, each of them sent her a pink ribbon as a reply.
As for Natsume's friends. They were all training:
- Kyouko: Learning how to read the stars from her grandmother.
- Touji: He's been practising with Kagami who to level-up his Demon Namanari mode.
- Jin: He's fighting the 12 DG's in his own way.
- Suzuka: She's kept contact with Takiko and Co.

Small question, if anyone can answer it, awesome!, if not, thanks anyways.

So, since its spoilers, I will hide it:

Spoiler:

I saw that the image of the volume 11 regarding the ribbons had 5 ribbons... but if - not sure on this since she delivered the letter for Natsume - Akino is with Natsume (for now?), who set the 5th ribbon? I can only think of Kyoko, Temma, Touji and Suzuka, but the Bakatora is missing, so if its not Akino, who sent the last ribbon?

And in the end we end up not really knowing who Natsume is. Abandoned baby in your doorstep? Really? What a teaser, somewhat it makes me more curious about who are Natsume's biolagical parents and why do they felt the need to leave her. Still I guess it will be a long way before any of this questions are answered.

OH, and I almost forgot: Thanks so much for sharing the summary! Its a great help knowing what is happening while the volume is not translated.
ps: And English is not my native language, if I get confusing please warn me that I will correct it asap

[RDNexus]

OH! Another portuguese fellow! So I'm not alone here, nice!

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by AnimeManiac001

Spoiler:

I saw that the image of the volume 11 regarding the ribbons had 5 ribbons... but if - not sure on this since she delivered the letter for Natsume - Akino is with Natsume (for now?), who set the 5th ribbon? I can only think of Kyoko, Temma, Touji and Suzuka, but the Bakatora is missing, so if its not Akino, who sent the last ribbon?

Spoiler for Volume 11:

Natsume sent letters to:
1. Tenma
2. Touji
3. Kyouko
4. Suzuka
5. Ohtomo

So, the answer to your question is Ohtomo.

Originally Posted by AnimeManiac001

Spoiler:

And in the end we end up not really knowing who Natsume is. Abandoned baby in your doorstep? Really? What a teaser, somewhat it makes me more curious about who are Natsume's biolagical parents and why do they felt the need to leave her. Still I guess it will be a long way before any of this questions are answered.

Spoiler for Volume 11:

Her not being anyone special seems to be one of the points of the volume. She's just some random child, and she isn't connected to any special family. So, whatever achievement of hers is her own, unrelated to blood connections. That's what the author said in the afterword he wanted for her.

[AnimeManiac001]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Spoiler for Volume 11:

Natsume sent letters to:
1. Tenma
2. Touji
3. Kyouko
4. Suzuka
5. Ohtomo

So, the answer to your question is Ohtomo.

Thanks for answering!

Originally Posted by Used Can

Spoiler for Volume 11:

Her not being anyone special seems to be one of the points of the volume. She's just some random child, and she isn't connected to any special family. So, whatever achievement of hers is her own, unrelated to blood connections. That's what the author said in the afterword he wanted for her.

Ah well, still think its a bit of waste but I can see the point in this Way to go Natsume! Keep getting better

Originally Posted by xrick

OH! Another portuguese fellow! So I'm not alone here, nice!

Yes! Likewise, not alone anymore here too

[noctis_lucis]

But how was possible for Natsume to find Ohtomo?, wasn't he also on the run because the Agency was also chasing him down ?

[BW95]

Originally Posted by noctis_lucis

But how was possible for Natsume to find Ohtomo?, wasn't he also on the run because the Agency was also chasing him down ?

I'm guessing they stayed in touch.

In other news, he's done it again folks! Chapter 2 is up!

[Iron Maw]

And yet vol 6 still isn't done. -_-

Maybe Dark Doom was right.

Well I guess, I'm just going to bite the bullet and read what's available of the first chapter and catch up.

BTW here something interesting, I found the exact number of vol 10's sales for first 2 days (just couple weeks after the anime started airing) was about 10,965. It ended up selling around 20k at the end of it's first week. In comparison Vol 11 did 16,596 in the same time period, and could possibly hit 29-30k by it's first week. That's a bigger jump than I thought, I may have underestimated the anime's effect a bit too much afterall.

[zerozeronine]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

And yet vol 6 still isn't done. -_-

Maybe Dark Doom was right.

Well I guess, I'm just going to bite the bullet and read what's available of the first chapter and catch up.

BTW here something interesting, I found the exact number of vol 10's sales for first 2 days (just couple weeks after the anime started airing) was about 10,965. It ended up selling around 20k at the end of it's first week. In comparison Vol 11 did 16,596 in the same time period, and could possibly hit 29-30k by it's first week. That's a bigger jump than I thought, I may have underestimated the anime's effect a bit too much afterall.

So hope for a season 2 in 2 years is still alive

[Iron Maw]

More like in 3 years.

But before that we have to see how it's figures look at the end of it's first week. This is certainly a good sign though.

[The One-way Road]

Question, question!! It's been stated that Kurahashi Miyo was the previous head of the Kurahashi family, but V. 7, ch. 2 says she married into it. How is that possible??

[Junkko]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

BTW here something interesting, I found the exact number of vol 10's sales for first 2 days (just couple weeks after the anime started airing) was about 10,965. It ended up selling around 20k at the end of it's first week. In comparison Vol 11 did 16,596 in the same time period, and could possibly hit 29-30k by it's first week. That's a bigger jump than I thought, I may have underestimated the anime's effect a bit too much afterall.

Ohhh, there is still hope!

Originally Posted by The One-way Road

Question, question!! It's been stated that Kurahashi Miyo was the previous head of the Kurahashi family, but V. 7, ch. 2 says she married into it. How is that possible??

Perhaps because her husband died at an early age. I'm not sure.