Nice, we will finally get to see Tsukune in action, i get the feeling that this fight won't last to long.
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I'm not so sure about that, I could see 1 to 2 chapters entirely dedicated to that fight, since after all, it's Tsukune the main male protagonist who will be fighting now, so I could see Ikeda focusing on that a little bit, especially since Tsukune hadn't fought much to begin with - the last time, he was fighting someone (as himself, not when he lost control over his powers), was - if I remember correctly, against the Siren guy, in Sun's arc - unless you consider, what he did to the phoenix during Fong Fong's introduction, as an "fight"...
I'm not so sure about that, I could see 1 to 2 chapters entirely dedicated to that fight, since after all, it's Tsukune the main male protagonist who will be fighting now, so I could see Ikeda focusing on that a little bit, especially since Tsukune hadn't fought much to begin with - the last time, he was fighting someone (as himself, not when he lost control over his powers), was - if I remember correctly, against the Siren guy, in Sun's arc - unless you consider, what he did to the phoenix during Fong Fong's introduction, as an "fight"...
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Well if the fight lasts as long as 2 chapters thats fine all the fights so far with the subdivision leaders have been 2 chapters so far except Sai-Lung's fight his was 1 chapter, but it's going to be pure awesomeness come next chapter, we get to enjoy Tsukune kicking some @$$, i guess Kuyou didn't learn his place after his defeat by Moka, time for Tsukune to show him his place.
With Tsukune vs. Kuyou... that could very well be a true defining point for Tsukune. In terms of pure youkai power, I expect Tsukune would wipe the floor with him. But, Kuyou might bring up the reason why it was him vs. Tsukune in the first place- for those who need a quick reminder, it was because Tsukune was suspected of being a human with a youkai school (which was true, until Moka stepped in). So at this point, Tsukune have to decide what he really is... after all, I believe he still classifies himself as a human, though we all know that isn't true, and leave it to Kuyou to challenge to Tsukune on that point. Either that, or Kuyou has greatly improved since Chapter 10 of the entire series.
I have to admit for a bad guy i like his character for the time being.
Some people have already started to speculate that there is something beginning to spark between Mizore and Miyabi, perhaps he has a thing for Mizore now. Thoughts anyone?
mhhh. that demon fox guy sure looks stronger and more cocky than before if that is even possible. still, agree he prly is around as a significant target for Tsukune to fully realize he kinda crossed over to become part of a whole different species than humans
As for Miyabi, generally I'd say he's up to no good with Mizore - but considering recent hints of beginning to ship of the harem to other men but Tsukune, I dunno... a bad guy who turns out to be good after all would make for a nice twist - so maybe he is actually in earnest?
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than again, he so looks like Gyokoru cooly smoking his cigarette
..nah...
no way. he ain't up to no good. no freakin way. he just playin it for the fun of it or for some develish scheme he needs Mizore for ... poor girls.
Yeah, Miyabi is definitely up to something, and since Kuyou has been a part of their group , he's definitely included in their plans as well.
Still, we have to wait, until they actually reveal what are they planing to do, but it will probably still take a few chapters, before that revelation is made.
Now, I wish to point out, what Magin has said - that the fight against Kuyou might make Tsukune realize that he can't consider himself as a human anymore... even if some human genetic traits, still remain in his body.
Since, let's face it, no HUMAN would be able to sense and dodge a fireball that is only a few meters away from you're face.
So, I would be very glad if the topic of Tsukune's humanity, would be brought up during his fight with Kuyou, shattering Tsukune's illusion that he can still consider himself as a human, and making him a little more aware of the changes that are happening to his body, due to the Shinso vampire blood flowing inside it.
Wow, to think Kuyou would return, and as a Fairy Tale branch leader no less. And if he's stronger than Raika, as Ruby theorized earlier in the chapter, Tsukune's in for one hecht of a rematch.
At first, I was a bit puzzled about why Akihisa would throw Tsukune against a powerful opponent like Kuyou just before his long-awaited grudge match against Akuha, since it would've definitely weakened and left him vulnerable before the epic showdown. Then with the inconvenient appearance of Miyabe, I fear the intended double-cross might be happening sooner than expected. With Tsukune tied up with Kuyou, it would be the perfect opportunity for Miyabe and company to snatch Moka right from under Gyokuro's nose. Of course this would get her attention, along with Gairen's and the last branch leader, but perhaps it's all part of the plan. Miyabe needs to eliminate the other subdivision leaders, as well as Gyokuro, in order to proceed with his greater plans. Maybe he's deliberately trying to lure them out so he can eliminate them all. I imagine Gyokuro would give him trouble, but perhaps it's then that the B Team arrives, which includes Fuhai Touhou. Man, he's starting to sound like Aizen here. "Just as planned." Urgh!
Seems they're separating the gang to fight battles.
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Ok what's up with Miyabi saving her? Another plot hole perhaps?
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I doubt it, he could be making his move sooner than we'd expected. And with Tsukune preoccupied, who's gonna stop him now? Though I hope I'm wrong on this, we'll find out very soon. Until then...
Wow, to think Kuyou would return, and as a Fairy Tale branch leader no less. And if he's stronger than Raika, as Ruby theorized earlier in the chapter, Tsukune's in for one hecht of a rematch.
At first, I was a bit puzzled about why Akihisa would throw Tsukune against a powerful opponent like Kuyou just before his long-awaited grudge match against Akuha, since it would've definitely weakened and left him vulnerable before the epic showdown. Then with the inconvenient appearance of Miyabe, I fear the intended double-cross might be happening sooner than expected. With Tsukune tied up with Kuyou, it would be the perfect opportunity for Miyabe and company to snatch Moka right from under Gyokuro's nose. Of course this would get her attention, along with Gairen's and the last branch leader, but perhaps it's all part of the plan. Miyabe needs to eliminate the other subdivision leaders, as well as Gyokuro, in order to proceed with his greater plans. Maybe he's deliberately trying to lure them out so he can eliminate them all. I imagine Gyokuro would give him trouble, but perhaps it's then that the B Team arrives, which includes Fuhai Touhou. Man, he's starting to sound like Aizen here. "Just as planned." Urgh!
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Well, personally I doubt such a scenario has a huge chance of occurring.
After all, you seemed to have forgotten about the fact that Akua is near the place where Moka is currently located, and if it was possible for Miyabi, Hokuto or Kiria to defeat her, they wouldn't go with the whole farce of letting Tsukune and his friends slip into Fairy Tale's HQ.
Not to mention, I don't think that their objective is to kidnap Moka again, since the only usefulness she might have for them, is the fact that her blood is capable of reviving Alucard. After all, it's not like she would assist them in destroying the human world. Furthermore, I doubt that Ikeda would go with the plot of kidnapping Moka again, after she had such an huge absence from the series.
Having said that, I definitely agree that Miyabi has some secret intentions in helping Tsukune's group get to Moka, but I don't think they have much to do with the plot of him trying to kidnap her - in my opinion, he plans to do something completely different then that.
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Seems they're separating the gang to fight battles.
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Ok what's up with Miyabi saving her? Another plot hole perhaps?
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Well, according to the summary of the chapter that was posted earlier, he's saving her, because at the moment he's on the side of Tsukune's group. I don't think that this chapter reveals, why he is actually doing that, but maybe a translation of the chapter, and the future chapters will disclose more information about this development.
Well, personally I doubt such a scenario has a huge chance of occurring.
After all, you seemed to have forgotten about the fact that Akua is near the place where Moka is currently located, and if it was possible for Miyabi, Hokuto or Kiria to defeat her, they wouldn't go with the whole farce of letting Tsukune and his friends slip into Fairy Tale's HQ.
Not to mention, I don't think that their objective is to kidnap Moka again, since the only usefulness she might have for them, is the fact that her blood is capable of reviving Alucard. After all, it's not like she would assist them in destroying the human world. Furthermore, I doubt that Ikeda would go with the plot of kidnapping Moka again, after she had such an huge absence from the series.
Having said that, I definitely agree that Miyabi has some secret intentions in helping Tsukune's group get to Moka, but I don't think they have much to do with the plot of him trying to kidnap her - in my opinion, he plans to do something completely different then that.
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Trust me, I haven't forgotten. My guess on that would be they'd let Kurumu and Mizore go first, and once Akuha was distracted enough, they'd move in for the kill. As the old saying goes, "in chess the pawns go first." That's all Tsukune and friends are to him, expendable pawns. And once his goal is achieved, he'll have no more use for them.
And as for Moka's usefulness, if they wanted Alucard to be revived, why betray Gyokuro and their peers, since they all want the same thing. Unless their agenda was indeed a ruse, but that would be a complete waste of time in my book. There's just too many questions, and no answers. Sigh, how I wish it was March already, so we'd get some of them. Until then...
Trust me, I haven't forgotten. My guess on that would be they'd let Kurumu and Mizore go first, and once Akuha was distracted enough, they'd move in for the kill. As the old saying goes, "in chess the pawns go first." That's all Tsukune and friends are to him, expendable pawns. And once his goal is achieved, he'll have no more use for them.
And as for Moka's usefulness, if they wanted Alucard to be revived, why betray Gyokuro and their peers, since they all want the same thing. Unless their agenda was indeed a ruse, but that would be a complete waste of time in my book. There's just too many questions, and no answers. Sigh, how I wish it was March already, so we'd get some of them. Until then...
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Well, we would need to wait and see how it goes then.
Still, personally I wouldn't like it if such an scenario took place...
Although, thinking about it, we can't deny the possibility that Tsukune and his friends might be already preprepared for a scenario, where Hokuto, Kiria and Miyabi "betray" them - after all, they had been tricked by them already in the first season, and I would be a bit disappointed if they hadn't learned anything from that incident - especially, if Hokuto has even lampshaded it in chapter 38 of the second season.
Like somebody mentioned earlier. I want to see Tsukune smoke this punk's ass in no time flat. Not more then a half of chapter max then focus back on Kurumu and Mizore. That will show just how far he's come along and honestly if he has trouble with Kuyou. He'll never stand a chance against Akuha...
Not too bothered on the Miyabe and Mizore bit. She already stated where her heart stands awhile back. Plus if Ikeda does pull something like that I'd have to hate him for good...
Well, we would need to wait and see how it goes then.
Still, personally I wouldn't like it if such an scenario took place...
Although, thinking about it, we can't deny the possibility that Tsukune and his friends might be already preprepared for a scenario, where Hokuto, Kiria and Miyabi "betray" them - after all, they had been tricked by them already in the first season, and I would be a bit disappointed if they hadn't learned anything from that incident - especially, if Hokuto has even lampshaded it in chapter 38 of the second season.
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You and I both, I want to see Tsukune trounce Akuha and prove she's not the one who'll give Moka her happiness. If this is some cheeseball buttpull to redeem Akuha, I'll really be steamed. I want her routed, not redeemed. It would be infuriating if Miyabe denied him that, though I wouldn't put it past him. A lot of villains are like that.
I also hope they're prepared for the eventual double-cross which could be coming sooner than we originally thought. However, I'm more disappointed that Hokuto has learned nothing from the first season. Even after what he witnessed in the Altar of Everlasting Darkness, he still believes coexistence is impossible and is actively trying to squelch it? Then why remove the Rosario of Judgment? If he was that committed, he should've let the barrier completely fall, then his goal would've been accomplished. Sigh, I hate it when characters don't make sense. Hopefully we'll find out the whole truth this year. Until then...
You and I both, I want to see Tsukune trounce Akuha and prove she's not the one who'll give Moka her happiness. If this is some cheeseball buttpull to redeem Akuha, I'll really be steamed. I want her routed, not redeemed. It would be infuriating if Miyabe denied him that, though I wouldn't put it past him. A lot of villains are like that.
I also hope they're prepared for the eventual double-cross which could be coming sooner than we originally thought. However, I'm more disappointed that Hokuto has learned nothing from the first season. Even after what he witnessed in the Altar of Everlasting Darkness, he still believes coexistence is impossible and is actively trying to squelch it? Then why remove the Rosario of Judgment? If he was that committed, he should've let the barrier completely fall, then his goal would've been accomplished. Sigh, I hate it when characters don't make sense. Hopefully we'll find out the whole truth this year. Until then...
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Well, the reason why I think that Hokuto, Kiria and Miyabi will be unsuccessful in their plot to kidnap Moka (If that's what they actually intend to do) is because, it would make the whole plot of Tsukune's development, before the infiltration to Fairy Tale's HQ a little redundant.
After all, what would be the point of this whole training arc, if Tsukune hasn't grown at all, and wouldn't be able to save Moka, when she needs it the most- even if he has gotten a lot stronger, it still would amount to nothing, since he couldn't save Moka - which, is the entire reason, why he started to train under Tohou Fuhai to begin with.
The same thing would happen, if Tsukune doesn't battle with Akua, over who is better suitable to be with Moka - since, if it doesn't happen it would also make the whole training arc, before the infiltration to Fairy Tale's HQ.
I don't know about you, but in my opinion, Ikeda isn't a an author who would basically throw such a huge part of his main characters character development - which is my main reason, why I doubt that Miyabi, Hokuto and Kiria are going to be successful in their secret plan to kidnap Moka (Naturally, assuming that this is actually there goal, since so far, we still haven't learned what they actually want to achieve.
Well, the reason why I think that Hokuto, Kiria and Miyabi will be unsuccessful in their plot to kidnap Moka (If that's what they actually intend to do) is because, it would make the whole plot of Tsukune's development, before the infiltration to Fairy Tale's HQ a little redundant.
After all, what would be the point of this whole training arc, if Tsukune hasn't grown at all, and wouldn't be able to save Moka, when she needs it the most- even if he has gotten a lot stronger, it still would amount to nothing, since he couldn't save Moka - which, is the entire reason, why he started to train under Tohou Fuhai to begin with.
The same thing would happen, if Tsukune doesn't battle with Akua, over who is better suitable to be with Moka - since, if it doesn't happen it would also make the whole training arc, before the infiltration to Fairy Tale's HQ.
I don't know about you, but in my opinion, Ikeda isn't a an author who would basically throw such a huge part of his main characters character development - which is my main reason, why I doubt that Miyabi, Hokuto and Kiria are going to be successful in their secret plan to kidnap Moka (Naturally, assuming that this is actually there goal, since so far, we still haven't learned what they actually want to achieve.
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Yes, this is true. Tsukune hasn't really been trolled often in this manga, I can admit that. I simply feared the worst when he got warped away to meet Kuyou. And since we already knew Miyabe was planning a double cross at the end, I was afraid it had come sooner than expected.
And you're right about Miyabe, we still don't know what his plan actually is. All we've seen is that egg he planted in the Snow Maiden Village, and Kahlua promised many more would appear before long, and after that, Fairy Tale would start its operations. Plothole, or is she part of the plot to undermine and ultimately overthrow Gyokuro? Not that I'm against it by any means, not after what her mother has done to her, though treachery doesn't seem to be part of her nature. Though she'll compromise her principles for the sake of the mission, which is sad.
All in all, I really don't trust Miyabe. Neither does the main cast, it seems. And with good reason, hope they're ready for the eventual double-cross, whenever it comes. Until then...
Like I said earlier I see two reasons why the whole rematch with Kuyou is taking place in the current arc.
First reason why such a rematch is going to occur is to show how much progress Tsukune has made compared to the start of this manga.
Second reason is to provide as with some information about Tsukune's "humanity" and the current state of his vampire transformation - it might be even possible that Kuyou is going to be the antagonist who will actually "finalize" Tsukune's vampire transformation - after all, we can't deny the fact that the whole topic of Tsukune's "transformation" has been brought up by Kuyou when he almost killed Tsukune, and Inner Moka was forced to inject him with her blood - so, if Ikeda wants to go along with the "full circle route", it might be possible that Tsukune's transformation is going to be actually finalized during his rematch with Kuyou.
Of course, it would mean that this rematch would take a lot more time then a single chapter, and personally I doubt that Ikeda is actually going to resolve Tsukune's transformation in the current arc, but on the other hand I can't deny the fact that the possibility of Ikeda leading the story in that direction exists, and that it would be quite symbolic if Tsukune's "transformation" would be resolved like that.
Like I said earlier I see two reasons why the whole rematch with Kuyou is taking place in the current arc.
First reason why such a rematch is going to occur is to show how much progress Tsukune has made compared to the start of this manga.
Second reason is to provide as with some information about Tsukune's "humanity" and the current state of his vampire transformation - it might be even possible that Kuyou is going to be the antagonist who will actually "finalize" Tsukune's vampire transformation - after all, we can't deny the fact that the whole topic of Tsukune's "transformation" has been brought up by Kuyou when he almost killed Tsukune, and Inner Moka was forced to inject him with her blood - so, if Ikeda wants to go along with the "full circle route", it might be possible that Tsukune's transformation is going to be actually finalized during his rematch with Kuyou.
Of course, it would mean that this rematch would take a lot more time then a single chapter, and personally I doubt that Ikeda is actually going to resolve Tsukune's transformation in the current arc, but on the other hand I can't deny the fact that the possibility of Ikeda leading the story in that direction exists, and that it would be quite symbolic if Tsukune's "transformation" would be resolved like that.
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I think this would be the best route for the author. I mean if Tsukune really finalized during the match with Kuyou would mean that Tsukune will be in his best shape for Akua.Plus like you said,would be quiete simolic if Tsukune's " trasformation" would be resolved like that. Not to mention the face that Moka would make when she find out about this.
Like I said earlier I see two reasons why the whole rematch with Kuyou is taking place in the current arc.
First reason why such a rematch is going to occur is to show how much progress Tsukune has made compared to the start of this manga.
Second reason is to provide as with some information about Tsukune's "humanity" and the current state of his vampire transformation - it might be even possible that Kuyou is going to be the antagonist who will actually "finalize" Tsukune's vampire transformation - after all, we can't deny the fact that the whole topic of Tsukune's "transformation" has been brought up by Kuyou when he almost killed Tsukune, and Inner Moka was forced to inject him with her blood - so, if Ikeda wants to go along with the "full circle route", it might be possible that Tsukune's transformation is going to be actually finalized during his rematch with Kuyou.
Of course, it would mean that this rematch would take a lot more time then a single chapter, and personally I doubt that Ikeda is actually going to resolve Tsukune's transformation in the current arc, but on the other hand I can't deny the fact that the possibility of Ikeda leading the story in that direction exists, and that it would be quite symbolic if Tsukune's "transformation" would be resolved like that.
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Ooohhh, nice. I hadn't thought of that.
Yes, it would be most appropriate if Kuyou was the one who "completed" Tsukune, so to speak. He started it back at the academy, how ironic that it might be finished within the Floating Garden. Naturally Kuyou's not thinking about that, he wants to erase Tsukune for all the humiliation he caused him a year before. So if the manga does go down this route, it would make the perfect precursor for the dramatic battle against Akuha.
Hmm, I wonder if that's the reason Miyabe set this up, that sounds like a plan he'd formulate. So in a sense, Kuyou's going to be thrown under the bus in order to further Miyabe's plans. Not really surprising, I sort of guessed he wanted to "eliminate the competition," so to speak, and this is a devious way to do just that. Man, I'm so anxious for the next issue already, I want to see Kuyou get the thrashing he so richly deserves, and then Akuha gets the same. Until then...