Aquarion EVOL - generic discussion thread

[Lord of Pandemonium]

I was just stopping in to drop of Mikono recolored and redrawn with ShuShu or whatever that marshmallow-rabbit-eared- that seems to be Anti-AmataXMikono- -cat her of hers to ears because she looks weird without him in her hair (is it a "him"?)

Spoiler for Mikono Render:

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and I got so confused, I almost thought I was in the Macross thread.

Originally Posted by Thess

More like Misa of Vaan if you want an hypothetical comparison of the 'second one'. Alto wasn't into Ranka to make the comparison valid. He was into paper planes until Sheryl made him see flying is better if he's not alone.

Actually he wasn't into Sheryl, because he was too preoccupied with Ranka until the asspull movies that don't even exist in my reality--but what has that have to do with Aquarion?
Is it because of Kawamori?

Oh yeah.. . You just reminded of someone I should address

Edit: @LMK---I'm not mad, sure I did get a little annoyed with that "This is not Macross or Fanfiction blah blah blah" bit. I won't even lie about that, because I did find that pretty annoying........BUT I am just blunt. I don't pull punches, and yes sometimes it comes off as rude, but I wasn't trying to be rude. I just prefer to call it like I see it. However, I will forget about it no sooner than I hit save.So I bear you no grudge or malice. It's not like you hit my dog with your car....

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

You have to remember that with each reincarnation, their personalities have been much different. If Apollonius and Apollo are any proof of this, I'd say. And Celienne didn't have as bad an attitude as Silvia.

That's where you're wrong, Silvia and Sirius (stop leaving him out) were a lot like Celiane--at least what we saw of her. "The Confrontation" you mentioned...was consistent with Silvia and Sirius' characters

Same thing with Apollo, and Apollonious. Apollonious didn't know what it was like to be human. Apollo was a beast--and acted like a dog because his character is based on a Greek god whom was called Lycanes because of his association with a wolf.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

I'm actually not shocked that you are the only one who didn't comprehend what I meant by my words.

Well I am shocked that you assumed I didn't comprehend what you said and didn't even consider that it might be the case where I understood you just fine and I simply disagreed with you.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Let me break it down; and when you respond, make sure you read the whole thing this time.

I said I "didn't really have time" because " I was busy" did I not?

That means I didn't really have time, and so I picked the topic sentence. Because everything else was just a "detail". Everything you said before that, was just you saying why you find the way I choose to ship the couples in Evol horribly wrong and it was all said just so you can lead up to the part I did answer. Again I had a lack of time and so I merely skimmed what you wrote, because I didn't have time. So instead I focused on what is called the "main idea " in grade-school. I don't really have time now but just for you I will nitpick everything you said this time. Okay?

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

1. You cannot treat this like Macross: you meet all new characters, whole new storyline, new music, and no background connections to each other (meaning no reincarnations).
   
   
2. This isn't Macross, nor is it fanfiction,
   
3. wasn't Ranka the same way whenever Alto would be around Sheryl, except she wouldn't show Alto her weakness, and he'd be dumbfounded to what he did wrong?
4. Amata, Mikono, and Zessica - even Kagura - are not Alto, Ranka, and Sheryl - or Brera

.

Am I the one who brought up Macross or the characters, or was it you? You're clearly the one who to be constantly reminded that "This is NOT Macross", not I
Just look at how many times you brought it up and this is not counting the argument you had with Shinji that spanned a few pages about Macross.
I know we're in Aquarion but I'm not sure that you do.
It would seem to me that you're the one who needs to write "This is not Macross" on your palm, so you can glance at it constantly while you peruse this thread.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

BTW, you say Mikono is annoying...

Please don't put words on my keyboard (I can't really say "in my mouth" right?) I hate for people, to argue pov's I don't have. It's a pet peeve of mine.
I said "I tolerate her because of my ship" Because... In this case, I prefer Zessica's character over Mikono's. However, I never ever said she was annoying. Do you think she's annoying? Because it shouldn't have crossed your mind, since I didn't say it nor was I thinking it. That was you. I said I didn't feel "anything" for her. I don't care enough about her to feel anything for her--even annoyance.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

They still have some, if not a very deep, connection to Apollonius and Celienne. he true couple is already there: Apollonius and Celienne. But the question is rather who is Apollonius and Celienne.

Um.......Isn't that what I told you? I could swear you told me that I was wrong for liking my preferred pairings and/or disliking your preferred pairing on the basis I shipped Apollonius and Celienne/Silvia and Apollo from the OS. What gives? Because I clearly stated my preferences and I also said I wasn't really sure who to ship.

I could also swear I told you that I was going to support whomever they were in the end --because of that very connection because I ship Apollonious and Celiane/Apollo and Silvia no matter what they look like, no matter whom they are. I just don't know who it is, but I know whom I would prefer it to be and who I don't want it to be. If the SHIP I like sinks, of course I won't like it. But it's not much I can do because they're "fated" lovers. So I don't know why you have an issue here especially since you said this...

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

And with that being said, you cannot ship Aquarion. It's a known fact. so please stop trying to say "ship" here.

Seriously does that really make sense to you? You kind of went off on a tangent here.. . actually you that several times in this post -, but tonight I'm only nitpicking because you seem to want me to. Otherwise, I would have left most of this out

It seems like you don't have a true understanding of what a "ship" or a "shipper" is.

Because---

• a "Ship" is any two characters that are romantically linked
• a "Shipper" is called such because they're on "deck" with this paring therefore they ride the "ship" that's what make them a "shipper."

Ships can be canon or fanon, the former is not a requirement for it to be a "ship".


Which means, I can ship who I damn well please, whether canon supports me or not. Please don't tell me that I can't "ship" any of the main characters because of some rule that you made up. Especially when you're being a hypocrite just because I want to ship a paring that you dislike as a pairing . Because you said ---

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

There are no ships to this show unless you are talking about the ones approved so far: like Andy and Mix and the triangle of Shrade, Cayenne, and Sazanka.

So I have to ask you....Approved by whom? The fans? Or do you mean---You? because you just brought up a love triangle that is non-existent in the canon sources. Sazanka is a shipper on deck, when it comes to Cayenne and Shrade. She doesn't harbor any romantic feelings about wanting them to get with anyone but each other. Andy and Mix might become canon but there is nothing that says they are canon. The only "approval" either of those ships have is from the fans and Sezanka. So they're pretty much the same as the main characters you just declared were off-limits. You really contradicted yourself many times in this post you know...

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

Mikono is actually a step up from Ranka here. That's why I like her so much. There's confrontation.

"there's confrontation" is actually "jealousy". She's not being confrontational, she's actually becomes withdrawn. That's different from Ranka who was a passive aggressive that didn't back down, no matter how insecure she was and also ..TWO DIFFERENT CHARACTERS. Like you said, Macross has no bearing on EVOL. So comparing the two is moot.
Did you say you liked Mikono because she reminds you of Ranka? Yet now you're going to find some flaw in her character just so you can say Mikono is better, in order to justify your shipping preferences.

Why can't you just say you like Amata and Mikono pairing without contriving a reason to do so?
....Why can't you just like them?

Because I refuse to nitpick anymore I am not answering the rest. Because, frankly I am tired. I have to get up early and it's getting redundant because basically all I see is contrivances and I see you blatantly shipping Amata and Mikono all while saying that you're not shipping them, when you're clearly shipping them. Hell you already cast Zessica in a "sisterly" roll when she's been anything but "sisterly" when it comes to Amata. I assure that incest isn't a norm in a brother and sister relationship.

The only person she's ever seemed "sisterly" to, is Mikono. If you can call it that

You have said over and over that you "like" Mikono and Amata pairing. They're adorable, and you've even said you were a shipper on board and if I didn't have to go to bed I would pull up every post you've ever said that in. So please stop saying "YOU CAN'T SHIP AQUARION" when you're blatantly shipping in Aquarion. You simply ride a different ship than I do. Otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive every time I say I don't think Amata is Apollon, nor would you keep trying to castrate me just because I prefer Amata with Zessica--because that's SHIPPING. You're doing it too. Instead of fronting like you're not shipping when you are, why dont just be honest and then ship openly, because it's not a secret. Hell anyone with half a brain can tell that you're a "Amata and Mikono" shipper.

Also you don't have to keep telling me that Apollon's soul might have split into two. Especially since everyone was so focused on Celiane being born as two people and I WAS the person who was the first to remind everyone about Apollonious. Which led to the debate on whether or not Aquarion was his wings, or power and not truly had a his soul residing in it or not. So you don't have to keep saying that, I'm well aware of that. However it doesn't mean that I have to like it and you can't tell me what I should or shouldn't like. Nor do you have the right to dictate which sides I should or shouldn't support. Especially when the reason for it, is based on your own preferences and your personal shipper code and not mine. Because I noticed that you said "I, Me" a lot and you didn't seem to realize that I AM NOT YOU. I think differently, I ship differently and you might not agree but you shouldn't presume to tell me things like "Shipping: You're doing it wrong" because ultimately I am not you

Now I am going to bed because I am tired, and I stayed up later than I was sussposed to just to anser this post--and now I no longer care so I probably went off an tangent towards the end--but who cares? I'm going to bad

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

To break down what I mean: there are no ships for Aquarion EVOL with the main characters. It is likely that two or even three of them are the reincarnations of Apollonius and Celienne. And until we have lasting proof of which ones are them, then even hints don't work very well.

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

My preference is Amata being Apollonius and Mikono being Celienne. That doesn't mean I'm shipping but rather trying to discover which of them is the original couple (the one and true couple). But I also realize that Amata might just be part of the original couple and not the whole reincarnation like Apollo was. The soul might've split into multiple parts this time. So I am not ship but observing to figure out whom is who. Otherwise, I do think that outside of the show, Amata and Mikono are just adorable together and Zessica is like an older sister to Amata (though my opinion of that one might change with time).

Originally Posted by LoveMeKags

I agree with all of this. And, a while back, I also speculated that Amata and Kagura are the same person, as there isn't much information on what Apollonius was like before meeting Celienne. Nor the other way around. And so I speculated that Mikono is also a part of Celienne because Zessica is much like Silvia.

[Zuul]

To me that episode was the least interesting so far. Probably the only episode I won't feel like watching a second time.

Mix abilities were cool but those nameless mooks weren't worthy opponents.

The only interesting thing was the fact that Jin is alive.

But next week episode seems absolutely awesome.

[mumucchi]

I'm kinda waiting for an episode wherein Mikono would be abducted to Altair so she can have time with Kagura. And then all of the questions regarding Altair would be answered.

I'm Mikono biased I know, it's kinda wishing for her to be the true eve, but no, it's more of kagura x mikono's screentime together with a sensible conversation.

I miss kagura's beastly voice shouting "ore no kuso onna!" T__T hope to see him next episode.

[Zuul]

Originally Posted by mumucchi

I'm kinda waiting for an episode wherein Mikono would be abducted to Altair so she can have time with Kagura. And then all of the questions regarding Altair would be answered.

I'm Mikono biased I know, it's kinda wishing for her to be the true eve, but no, it's more of kagura x mikono's screentime together with a sensible conversation.

I miss kagura's beastly voice shouting "ore no kuso onna!" T__T hope to see him next episode.

I would like to see them interact as well.
But maybe it could happen in another way. such Kagura coming to Vega once again.

I see great potential here. Mikono the easily offended prim and proper girl and the very crude Kagura who knows no social boundaries. XD
I would like to see Mikono's shocked face if he was to start sniffing her butt. XD

[Sixth]

what Altair going to do with the "true eve" once they got her? Gangbang her to death?

[LoveMeKags]

Spoiler for @LoP:

Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium

That's where you're wrong, Silvia and Sirius (stop leaving him out) were a lot like Celiane--at least what we saw of her. "The Confrontation" you mentioned...was consistent with Silvia and Sirius' characters

I leave out Sirius because technically they both were Celienne so any person who'd seen the OS would already know I refer to both. Should I have to address both to prove my point? No.

Regardless, Silvia and Sirius had different personalities from their original incarnation. Silvia was more brass and headstrong whilst Sirius was quiet and calm (until the second half). And it is also quite hard to compare characters to their past selves when we barely have any information on them. So to say "were a lot like Celienne" doesn't fit. We weren't given any proof that they were the same.

Same thing with Apollo, and Apollonious. Apollonious didn't know what it was like to be human. Apollo was a beast--and acted like a dog because his character is based on a Greek god whom was called Lycanes because of his association with a wolf.

I'm not gonna even start here with how Apollo acted different that Apollonius towards everyone, including Silvia until the second half when he realized he was Apollonius...

Am I the one who brought up Macross or the characters, or was it you? You're clearly the one who to be constantly reminded that "This is NOT Macross", not I
Just look at how many times you brought it up and this is not counting the argument you had with Shinji that spanned a few pages about Macross.
I know we're in Aquarion but I'm not sure that you do.
It would seem to me that you're the one who needs to write "This is not Macross" on your palm, so you can glance at it constantly while you peruse this thread.

You miss the point, like before...
It's not about "bringing Macross into it," it is about stating that there is no way you can ship and say "this one will win" because this show doesn't have basic romance abilities like Macross does. A girl does not meet a boy in Aquarion and fall in love because of the reincarnations, in which case, that love already exists in someone. That is why when I say "hope" for Amata and Mikono, I am hoping they are the reincarnations. I am not shipping them. But if they were normal Macross characters, I would.

BTW, I am still right. You have said that you find Mikono annoying before. You might want to re-read your past posts. And I correct you that Ranka was much of the same when viewing Alto and Sheryl together. And I know you love Ranka... It's hard to accept, but Mikono is the new version (at least for me and hopefully Kawamori).

Um.......Isn't that what I told you? I could swear you told me that I was wrong for liking my preferred pairings and/or disliking your preferred pairing on the basis I shipped Apollonius and Celienne/Silvia and Apollo from the OS. What gives? Because I clearly stated my preferences and I also said I wasn't really sure who to ship.

You have, but it is when you say "Kagura and Mikono are likely to get together because they have chemistry" that tears that statement from past posts apart. That means you are shipping them based on personalities. And that won't work in Aquarion. You can hope, even take a side with this, but referring to it as you would a normal romance won't prove any point.

It seems like you don't have a true understanding of what a "ship" or a "shipper" is.

Because---

• a "Ship" is any two characters that are romantically linked
• a "Shipper" is called such because they're on "deck" with this paring therefore they ride the "ship" that's what make them a "shipper."

Ships can be canon or fanon, the former is not a requirement for it to be a "ship".

However, there's a fine line between canon and fanon. And asking or hoping your ship is canon doesn't change the fact that it is still fanon until that time. And so far, the "ship" you are supporting has barely any screen time to be even called fanon.

So far, the only canon ship is possible Shrade and Cayenne, because they are even supported by the production company.

And it's sad for me to have to point out that shipping doesn't exist in Aquarion unless you refer to secondary characters like Sezanka. Otherwise, the only thing that exists between the characters right now is "whom is the reincarnation of whom" and if certain characters turn out to have no relation to either past life, then you can ship. Otherwise, the romance is already there and so a ship with new characters doesn't exist. It's not that hard to figure out.

So I have to ask you....Approved by whom? The fans? Or do you mean---You? because you just brought up a love triangle that is non-existent in the canon sources. Sazanka is a shipper on deck, when it comes to Cayenne and Shrade. She doesn't harbor any romantic feelings about wanting them to get with anyone but each other. Andy and Mix might become canon but there is nothing that says they are canon. The only "approval" either of those ships have is from the fans and Sezanka. So they're pretty much the same as the main characters you just declared were off-limits. You really contradicted yourself many times in this post you know...

Uh, I think everyone here is going to agree that Sezanka is supporting either guy whether gay or not, and so that makes a triangle going on there. It is unclear as of yet if she harbors romantic feelings towards either one. However, when it comes to the proof, there is artwork and spreads of Shrade and Cayenne alone without Sezanka around.

Andy and Mix are slowly becoming canon. They had a rocky start but after this episode, it is obvious where the director is going with this. They were, and still are, the most obvious non-reincarnation couple in the show. Anyone to ship them wasn't wrong.

"there's confrontation" is actually "jealousy". She's not being confrontational, she's actually becomes withdrawn. That's different from Ranka who was a passive aggressive that didn't back down, no matter how insecure she was and also ..TWO DIFFERENT CHARACTERS. Like you said, Macross has no bearing on EVOL. So comparing the two is moot.

I never said I was so-called "comparing" characters relationships but rather their personalities. Since all of it is done by Kawamori, there's bound to be some blending, especially since Frontier and EVOL were so close to each other.

I'll have to remind you that each time those "confrontations" happened, Ranka said nothing to state there was wrong done nor give any implications to Alto that he'd done something to upset her. She let him come to conclusions. And if he ever noticed, he did nothing to fix it. You can take E20 and 21 for this example. It's not necessarily about the girls here but also the boys in the different animes. For one, Ranka kept her distance after E10, just like Mikono thinking Amata has the hots for Zessica. They are very similar but that doesn't mean I'm saying Mikono is Ranka and that's why I vote for her. No, doesn't work that way.

It's more about the difference in relationships.

When Mikono gets upset at Amata's wrong doings, she gives him plenty of implications that he's done something to upset her. She often shows a backbone by not getting herself further involved if he doesn't change. If Amata doesn't love her - in her mind - why should she waste her time on him? There are plenty of other guys. But it is when Amata stands up and proves his feelings by doing things he normally wouldn't just to apologize or correct said wrong that is when the relationship differs from my Frontier ship.

I'm not saying I don't support Alto and Ranka, I just would've loved to see confrontations on BOTH sides, and there wasn't from Alto, sadly.

Did you say you liked Mikono because she reminds you of Ranka? Yet now you're going to find some flaw in her character just so you can say Mikono is better, in order to justify your shipping preferences.

Uh, when did I say either character DIDN'T have a flaw? All anime characters have flaws. Even Sheryl fans admit she has some flaws. What's wrong with me saying I see flaws in Ranka?

I say Mikono is better mostly because her background is different than Ranka. Take into account that Ranka was taken care of by Ozma her whole life whilst Mikono spent most of her time alone when Cayenne left for the Academy. Mikono is not as attached to her brother as Ranka was.

But they have similar aspects of questioning the real enemy. Considering Mikono can't get Kagura - whom is clarified to be her enemy - out of her head nor could Ranka keep the Vajra out.

Why can't you just say you like Amata and Mikono pairing without contriving a reason to do so?
....Why can't you just like them?

I do like them. But I don't "ship" them. Maybe if they turn out to not be the reincarnations for some unknown reason, then I could say "ship." But until then, I like them. It's as simple as that.

Hell you already cast Zessica in a "sisterly" roll when she's been anything but "sisterly" when it comes to Amata. I assure that incest isn't a norm in a brother and sister relationship.

Sadly, Amata would reject this whole paragraph because he's viewed Zessica in no different light since meeting her. And that was at least five episodes ago. So even if you could "ship" them, it would only be as a "sister."

Remember that Zessica's feelings are not what I'm watching in that sense but Amata's. He gives no proof to your theory. And I also remind you that Amata flies when excited. Embarrassment at your sister touching an intimate part of your body would also make you excited (as in nervous) and that would make Amata fly.

You have said over and over that you "like" Mikono and Amata pairing. They're adorable, and you've even said you were a shipper on board

I never said I was a "shipper on board." Now who's putting words in my mouth? I started "shipping" them before the wings were revealed in E2. Then that "ship" died to the possibilities of Amata being Apollonius and I was - and still am - hoping Mikono is Celienne. Going back to posts before I finished E2, which was when I stated my "ship," won't help you. Technically, I never stated what episode I was on at that time. So once again, I don't "ship" Aquarion.

Because I noticed that you said "I, Me" a lot and you didn't seem to realize that I AM NOT YOU. I think differently, I ship differently and you might not agree but you shouldn't presume to tell me things like "Shipping: You're doing it wrong" because ultimately I am not you

And the sad part about it is you take everything out of context. "Shipping" often times is about characters that have a potential to get together, meaning there is no past life, however, this does not work in Aquarion. You can "ship" Apollonius and Celienne all you want but here's a little key note you should take down: until proven otherwise, no character is revealed to be either character's reincarnation. There are hints. But shipping is impossible because the original lovers exist. Someone will turn up as the reincarnations and if it isn't your "ship," you'll be pissed. That's why I say you shouldn't "ship."

Hey, I'd love to have shipped in the OS, but I couldn't, because my friend told me there were past lovers. I realized that he was right and Apollo and Silvia ended up together when I figured he was better off with another certain female...

And that's why shipping in Aquarion is not good, because we can't judge whom will be with whom in the main characters based on personality or relationships, even chemistry, because ultimately, we will end up wrong in some way no matter which side we choose.

That is how Aquarion ultimately differs from Macross in the biggest way.

---

Back on topic, I think the entrance of Shushu was supposed to be a reminder of the love piece and also add some more comic relief. If I'm right to judge the small tidbits, the next few episodes are gonna start turning darker. So I'll take the Amata and Mikono scene this time as the comic relief. Albeit, I was hoping that if they'd kissed we'd get to find out if one of them was Apollonius and Celienne, but oh well... still a mystery for now.

[Zuul]

Originally Posted by noobita

what Altair going to do with the "true eve" once they got her? Gangbang her to death?

Either she's really supposed to mate and bear 15+ children with different fathers, or maybe an human sacrifice of some sort ?

[mumucchi]

Originally Posted by Zuul

I see great potential here. Mikono the easily offended prim and proper girl and the very crude Kagura who knows no social boundaries. XD

I bet it would be a tarzan x jane conversation with kagura being the hot guy that he is and mikono trying to figure out the nostalgic, deja vu-ish feeling she has for kagura

Originally Posted by Zuul

I would like to see Mikono's shocked face if he was to start sniffing her butt. XD

hahah that shocked expression would be a blushing one (either from being offended and embarrased or being turned on ) either way, i would like to have them interact, so much for amata x mikono scenes (which is inevitable since they're the main pairing(?) here)

Originally Posted by noobita

what Altair going to do with the "true eve" once they got her? Gangbang her to death?

maybe the eve would be paired to either jin / kagura to bear the next generation of altair children. and with the eve on their planet, starting from those set of children, girls would be born and they're safe from extinction. it's not really eve mating as many boys as possible but a couple that can have children (as much as they like?)

I'm just speculating, don't take me seriously

[bakAnki]

YAWARAKAAAAAA~I!!

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

I'd say her powers are double edged like the shedding of clothes. While it's powerful, it requires she take her hands off the controls. meaning it stops her from reacting to anything happening during that time she's trying to get her attack off.

I wonder if she doesn't has to be the head to use Absolute Clam. I think one doesn't have to be the head to make Aquarion use his/her Element power. Like Zess's power on #1-2 or Yunoha's invisibility. Even on the original Pierre still can channel his Element power so Solar Aquarion could use Fire Fist.

But maybe one's power will be stronger if he/she is the head?

[Tempest35]

^ I see that you stormed Gel once it came back on-line, didn't you.

Yay! Andy/MIX! Best couple if only for their interactions. XD

[Zuul]

For me, the best is still Shrade Cayenne.

I'm looking to JinxAmata, because if fujoshi Sazanka ships it, it cannot be bad...XD But I cannot exactly understand how she can considere Amata a potential seme. That would be just wrong.

[mumucchi]

Spoiler for nosebleed:

Originally Posted by bakAnki

YAWARAKAAAAAA~I!!

loled at this image, amata has the power to be perverted but still look innocent as possible

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Zuul

Either she's really supposed to mate and bear 15+ children with different fathers, or maybe an human sacrifice of some sort ?

Mikono, I feel sympathetic for ya...

[Zuul]

Originally Posted by noobita

Mikono, I feel sympathetic for ya...

Nothing indicates Mikono is Altea number one possible choice.

But I suppose it's the abduction that would bring the most drama in the story. Both Amata and Cayenne going all emo over it.

[ReddyRedWolf]

The Big Bang in Big Bang Gattai, hole and filling holes, and Mikono's power to connect people is a reference to Aquarion's last episode.

From the darkness of spaces (hole) is where the universe began.- Big Bang
You can also call the Big Bang as Genesis.

The Earth was torn apart but was made whole.- hole and hole filling

Silvia connected Apollo, Siruis, and Toma's feelings. This seems to confirm Mikono as Silvia as her power now is to connect people.

[BetoJR]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Silvia connected Apollo, Siruis, and Toma's feelings. This seems to confirm Mikono as Silvia as her power now is to connect people.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, that wasn't Silvia's power. At all. She had telekinesis, wasn't it?
The connection made in the original was all about her conveying her feelings and explaining things to the others; and being understood.

Not anything to do with an element power - but, seeing as this is a whole new series, anything is possible (I guess).

[DragoonKain3]

Silvia indeed had telekinesis, which really is more in line with Zessica's power (the 'force hand' thing in one of the first two episodes).

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by BetoJR

Unless I'm very much mistaken, that wasn't Silvia's power. At all. She had telekinesis, wasn't it?
The connection made in the original was all about her conveying her feelings and explaining things to the others; and being understood.

Not anything to do with an element power - but, seeing as this is a whole new series, anything is possible (I guess).

Silvia's power was telekinesis but this is another life hence elemental powers are not the same.

Using Zen/Gen Fudo's donut analogy Silvia was the hole surrounded by the donut ring of Apollo, Sirius and Toma.

The donut is the equivalent of the left and right hand connected by the space between.

[Vena]

It could be a red herring with Mikono <-> Sylvia, much like Kagura <-> Apollo, but they are really making (made) the two of them seem to be pretty clear cut examples of their former selves. Kagura has literally taken on Apollo's bestial characteristics as his power, while Mikono has taken on Sylvia's importance in the final bond and made it her power. They have some sort of connection, the former being utterly entranced by the latter, and the latter remembering the former. They'd need a really good explanation for how Kagura is not Apollo, at this point, and almost to the same degree with Mikono because all of the imagery/allusions point in one way and we've not really been shown much in the way of counter-examples or options aside from Mikono having a reserved personality (which doesn't amount to much since she's a reincarnation and not an exact duplicate) or Kagura's exceptional crudeness and lack of any sort of finesse.

Spoiler for I thought I'd hide some reincarnation speculation...:

(If Amata is indeed of Altair descent, then we even have the nice symmetry of two Altairian (?) males and two Vegan (?) females (maybe even Jin and Yunoha... go go new ship!).)

It could be some real strange curveball like Kagura is Sirius ( ) and Mikono is Sylvia, or maybe Kagura is still Apollo but Sylvia is Raika or some such (I can't figure how either of these would make any sense). The problem is that its all been set-up but they've kept Mikono and Kagura completely separate from one another and so the established connections cannot be developed into anything. (Seems to me, and if I'm not completely crazy, that when Mikono is given the time to interact with Kagura, is also when we're going to get our Amata (and Zessica) background episode(s)... and then Amata will swoop in to save Mikono, standard tropes ensue, and they live happily ever after. Kinda makes you think that Kagura will either die, or you'll just feel sad for him.)

[mayumi]

I have been thinking that the ova ending is not so clear compared to tv series. What if apollo, silvia, reika combined thier souls and created 3 new characters in evol with combination of all 3 souls. It might sound farfetched but reika really needed some peace in the ova. And so by combining souls mikono wants to apologise to kagura cause reika stabbed him in ova and mikono remembers it. Like mikono having scent of silvia andlittle of herpower but memories of reika. Or mikono is tv series sirius and she wants to apologize for betraying apollo and silvia.