2009-09-19, 16:36 | Link #2161 |
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Personally, I regard track 09 (as rage inducing) as discontinuity. I don't like it at all.
I don't even particularly care for Lutecia but still, they seriously need a better reason (any reason is better than 'because she's obviously guilty and pleaded guilty) for exiling the poor girl. I prefer to think that Megane is taking Lutecia home with her. Home where she'll get the counseling, education and happy mama-daughter time they missed out on.
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2009-09-19, 16:41 | Link #2162 | |
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Of course, there's also the "who you know" factor there: Fate's guardian is Lindy rather than Genya. On the other hand, Sein, Deed, and Otto pretty much got plucked out of confinement by the Church, while there's some suggestion that the Nakajima sisters still are under some level of probationary control, so that tracks too... When you get down to it, here's Lutecia's sentence (remembering that she's ten years old and has been held by an evil mad scientist since she was two): she goes and gets to live with her mom in a nice suburban home until she's eighteen or until she's deemed psychologically fit to rejoin society (an eminently logical restriction given the aforementioned "semi-brainwashed by Jail"). The only things she can't do are leave the planet or summon city-destroying giant bugs. By any real-world standard, that's a pretty darned light sentence for actively participating in multiple and extensive acts of terrorism against both private citizens and the government. |
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1. a quiet, pastoral world was good for her mother's recovery; 2. the demands of a newly opened colony would find her talent in bug summoning most useful. |
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2009-09-19, 16:50 | Link #2164 | |
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Being send to what is, essentially, an abandoned planet kind of sounds golden cage-like to me though. Especially in light of the other participants of the crime not being given similar punishments. Even Cinque's so-called life sentence apparently didn't last long, so I'm hoping they're going to give some canon info on that soon. Obviously by SSX she is allowed to receive visitors again as Agito visits her, so there certainly has been some lightening of her punishment at least.
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2009-09-19, 17:44 | Link #2165 |
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24 – Aozora 24 – Blue Sky Fate: And after that, the quiet days until the day of Mobile Six’s graduation and the eventful days that soon followed after, are still fresh in my memories. Memories such as the very intense 24 minute mock battle on graduation. Though Mobile Six’s members are scattered to other places, but under these blue skies, I think to myself that not one will ever forget those days as long as (no matter where) they live. Nanoha: Fate-chan! Vivio: Fate-mama! Fate: Yes, wait for me! I just need to finish up writing this email. Today is a day off, so I’m going for a little trip/walk with Nanoha and Vivio. I’m sure everyone is busy and find it hard to make time to plan/organize our class reunion, but let’s definitely make it happen. Our class reunion plan committee president Shari is doing her best. As the secretary/organizer for the reunion plan committee, let’s all do our best. Until next time. Fate Testarossa Harlaown. Send to Subaru. Sorry for the wait! Vivio: Fate-mama, are you done with your email? Fate: Yup, done and over with. Nanoha: Well then, let’s go Fate-chan. Fate: Yes, Nanoha.
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'I don't know when we'll ever meet like this again' is not a line you use when you are allowed to receive visitors. But still a choice, and that's my point. Lutecia didn't get any choice in the matter, while the Wolkenritter did, despite having a crime record several decades bigger. Neither are Otto, Deed and Sein. But this does make me wonder... did Lutecia get a choice in this? I'd imagine her to serve in the bureau and stay closer to Erio and Caro, or the numbers if she had a choice. |
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2009-09-19, 18:35 | Link #2169 | |
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She says 'terraformed planet' in the track. But I remembered the track in SSX where Agito comments it's an 'in progress terraforming planet'. So I used 'in progress terraforming planet'. Not that it makes the exile any better or worse. But if I had happened to listen to this before SSX, I would have simply written 'terraformed planet'.
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Besides, all the Wolkies did was assault a few officers. And release a Relic on an unadministered world. Lu did the same on Mid, what with helping with the cradle and all. Oh, and let's add kidnapping of a minor to her charges. Quote:
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2009-09-19, 19:53 | Link #2171 |
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(Super Gelman… Zankuto = Sankt)
11 - Zankuto - Hirude Mahou Gakuin 11 – Sankt Hilde Magic School/Academy Nanoha: Oh, Sister Schach! Vivio: Good afternoon! Schach: Nanoha-san, Vivio. Good afternoon. Nanoha: Thank you for your time. Vivio: Thank you very much. Schach: Oh not at all. Well then, let’s begin. Welcome to the Belka Saint King (Sankt Kaiser) Church affliated traditional mission school Sankt Hilde Magic School/Academy. The premises/campus is like this and it happens to be break time, so the students are energetic as usual. Girl: Oh Sister, good day. Boy: Good day. Schach: Thank you, good day. Vivio: Wow, lots of kids. Nanoha: Everyone’s about the same age as you. Schach: If you enter this school, they might become your friends. Would you like to talk to them for a bit? Vivio: Yes! Schach: Everyone, may I have your attention please? All: Oh? Schach: There’s a girl who might be coming to school here next year. If there’s anyone with time, could you talk to her? All: Yes! Nanoha: Go ahead Vivio. Vivio: Yeah. Good afternoon. Girl: Good day. Boy: What’s your name? Vivio: I’m Takamichi Vivio. Schach: Is something wrong? Nanoha: Oh nothing, it’s the first time she’s met children but she’s not shy/afraid at all. Girl: So your name is Vivio (hard to hear) Vivio: Yup. Girl: Is that woman, Vivio’s mom? Vivio: Yup. Schach: Well they are fellow children. Girl: Here’s a classroom. Over there is the magic practice room. Boy: Would you like to go to see it? Vivio: Is it okay? Sister Schach, can I go and see it? Schach: Yes, please go ahead. Nanoha: Sorry everyone, please take care of her. All: Yes! Schach: We’ll be touring the school grounds, let’s meet up at the lobby later. Vivio: Okay! Schach: Primary school is five years, middle/secondary school is three years and after two years as a probationary/provisional member she can attend high/senior/advanced classes. It’s basically an escalator school but it’s possible to skip grades. If she genuinely wishes to continue serious studies, she can earn a bachelor degree (alt: earn a university degree). Nanoha: I see. Schach: Oh, it’s a message from Carim. Please excuse me. Nanoha: Please do. Carim: Schach, are you at the school? Schach: Yes, with Nanoha-san. Carim: Oh Nanoha-san, good afternoon. Nanoha: Hello, Knight Carim. Carim: It’s about time for the break over there, and I was wondering how Nanoha-san and Vivio were doing, so I decided to call. Nanoha: Thank you very much. Schach: Vivio is being shown around the school by the students. Carim: Vivio seems to become Nanoha-san’s child completely and has settled down. I’m sure there will be no trouble with school. Nanoha: I sure hope so. Carim: I, Schach and Rossa, though we went at different times, studied at this school. The learning environment is quite good. Nanoha: Yes. Schach: Because it’s a mission school, she’ll end up using Church style manners/etiquette. Nanoha: That applies/true of any world/place. Carim: That’s true. Vivio: Well everyone, thank you. Girl: Bye bye Vivio. Girl 1: Have a nice day Vivio: Have a nice day. Schach: Didn’t I tell you. Vivio: Sister Schach too, thank you very much. Schach: You’re welcome. Nanoha: Vivio, what did you think? Do you think you’ll be alright studying magic at that school? Vivio: Yes, actually, I want to study there! Nanoha: I see, and it seems you can make lots of friends over there too. Vivio: Un. Nanoha: When Vivio goes to school, Mama’s going to become lonely. Vivio: Mama’s a good girl, so she’ll be fine. Nanoha: Hahaha! Vivio: Vivio’s going to study lots and learn lots of magic! And then one day, Vivio’s going to protect Mama! Nanoha: I see, I’ll look forward to it. Vivio: Un. Nanoha: Well, we still have half a year until you become a first year and I have a three day break coming up. So during this break, let’s play a lot! Vivio: YEAH!
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2009-09-19, 21:57 | Link #2172 |
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Further information on the exile/colony thing.
Here is the pertinent information from SSX CD2, track 02 about it. In Japanese しかしやっぱり…ここはいいとこだなー。 犯罪者の流刑地には思えない? そう言うコトじゃなくて、流刑地でもねーだろ、単に無人で、開発中の世界ってだけで。 Agito: You know, this place is really great/nice. Lutecia: You mean you can’t see/imagine that it’s a penal colony? Agito: That’s not I mean. It’s not a penal colony. It’s a world/place that simply has few people and is currently being adapted and developed
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That's really my whole beef with Lutecia's punishment. She is the only one out of the entire cast of redeemed villains in all of Nanoha that got exiled. No other redeemed villain got a punishment as heavy as Lutecia's. Now sorry, but that just screams 'plot device' to me, and one they could have done better. Serving with the Church does is hardly the same as serving with the TSAB. *tilts head* How so? *snrk* Well, one good thing would come of it then, that's for sure. Last edited by Keroko; 2009-09-20 at 14:49. |
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Ah, sorry, typo. I meant unsupervised.
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2009-09-20, 18:26 | Link #2180 |
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(The TSAB Reforms… at least they’re implying some sort of reforms.)
07 - Kurono to Genya 07 – Chrono and Genya Chrono: And with that, that is all for messages on this matter. Genya: Ah, sorry to trouble you Admiral Chrono. Chrono: No, not at all. The Combat Cyborg Case is now completely closed. Genya: It seems so. That reminds me, what’s it like over there at HQ? (How’s HQ over there?) Chrono: The crimes of/matter on Lieutenant General Regius is very serious and complicated in myriads of ways. But it seems that because of this (But it seems that by using this as fuel), they’ve decided to seriously review and move to implement reforms for all personnel at Central/Main World HQ and to TSAB operations. Genya: I see. Chrono: It would great if the Navy and Army start working better together (cooperating with each other better) because of this. Genya: That’s difficult/a tall order. Chrono: But it’ll change, even just a little. Genya: Yeah. You know, working to stop worldwide plots to maintain peace. Ten years is really pushing it. Chrono: That’s true. Genya: It’s a miracle if it holds for twenty years, but fifty or a hundred is impossible. So, for the sake of the next generation and the sake of our children and grandchildrens’ generations’ future, we must cultivate and maintain our people/personnel and organization. Chrono: Yes. Genya: Well that’s what I talked about with your little sister and little lady Takamachi. Chrono: Ahahah, is that so?
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