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2012-06-11, 09:37 | Link #21883 | |
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2012-06-11, 09:55 | Link #21884 |
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Oh yeah? I don't agree, murderers may have pathological issues, childhood problems, they aren't simply following their pulsions to kill, there is generally reasons for them to do so, to not give them a trial or understanding those reasons is to run away from a society's problem and why they became what they are now.
Let's say a girl is abused by her teacher and ends up killing him for revenge, hate, or whatever, she is a murderer, would you approve that man's sentence? Probably not, then why? BEcause it's a girl? Because she was abused? But most murderers in their life suffered from something, the scale changing from one's to another. But he seems to talking about one murderer, there's a psychopath serial killer in Osaka or what? |
2012-06-11, 10:05 | Link #21885 |
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Here's the inconvenient truth: Unlike most countries, the "liberals" of Korea are the greater of two evils. The reason why Saenuri had been able to rebound from their loss in support was how the "liberals" conducted themselves, being far more oppressive and ideological than the Saenuri. Frankly, Korea is in a pretty strange situation where the conservatives in power would mean a freer society than if the "liberals" came to power.
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2012-06-11, 10:47 | Link #21886 |
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You should read the context before ranting. It's one guy who was in jail before for murder (or attempted murder, I forget which), and was released shortly before this incident. He wanted to commit suicide, but was too chicken to do so. So, he got a knife and randomly stabbed two people to death so that he'd be executed.
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2012-06-11, 11:42 | Link #21887 |
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There was no link for me to know the context, I can't guess what's going on in the whole world.
Nonetheless doesn't change a thing, it still suits my first part, I can sympathize with the family of the two dead people, but the fact that man tried to commit suicid is as well a problem, and instead of condamning him, there should be proper work why that man dived in so much in despair. |
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So this Saenuri party is pretty much Korean version of AKP that is trying to overture the top-down imposed modernization upon the society whether they like it or not by the previous regime ? Now I know why I get this strange attraction towards the country.... Still, the American evangelical component in its make up ought to make one nervous.
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2012-06-11, 14:29 | Link #21891 | |
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Yes the tragedy would have been smaller if that man killed himself, but now maybe -at least- some people will try to understand why that man tried to suicid himself yet couldn't, and maybe it will change something for japense society, this one especially isn't easy. Otherwise it would have simply been " [Not breaking news]A former prisonnier suicid himself after being released". And who cares about that? Edit: Man, come on are you kidding, stop playing semantic with me, we passed this, my post still hold all its value without knowing all the context, and there wasn't even the need to know the whole context, I do not agree with his sentence, I showed why, that's all. What you are doing is ridiculous -seeking the little mouse where it isn't-. Last edited by Zakoo; 2012-06-11 at 15:30. |
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2012-06-11, 14:35 | Link #21892 |
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Your opinion on a conversation you couldn't be arsed to read, let alone understand, thus taking that quote you commented on out of context. When your oh so valuable opinion is that we should make an effort to understand people and the context of their actions (or does that apply only to murderers?). I just found the contradiction amusing.
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2012-06-11, 19:52 | Link #21893 | |
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I do agree that the opposition party has serious problem, starting with UNDEMOCRATIC way they run the party ( I know some inside stories that isn't in the news ). Having said that, Korea seriously lacks serious parties that upholds democratic ideals of 'compromising with those that disagree with you' while also upholding ideals of either Social Liberalism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism ) or Progressivism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism ) , as the most laws that pushed Korea towards being more Conservative Neoliberalism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism ) was proposed by the current opposition party when they were the ruling party.
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http://books.google.com/books?id=tx-...ralism&f=false http://www.japanfocus.org/-Man_Gil_-Kang/2093 http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/engli...on/299316.html http://sawyerseminar.web.unc.edu/fil...-Quarterly.pdf http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=480=120 Above are articles describing neoliberal policies of President Kim, Dae-jung and Roh, Moo-hyun .
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2012-06-11, 22:44 | Link #21896 |
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In the most awesome news EVER, the Los Angeles KINGS won the Stanley Cup for the first time in their 45 year history.
I witnessed history tonight Endless "Go Kings, GO!" Soul
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Oh sure, salt the wounds. Just remember we came back and beat the Hawks last year after getting eliminated by them the two years prior.
Unlikely. Vancouver isn't going to host giant outdoor parties with tens of thousands of Canucks fans attending unless Vancouver is in the playoffs. And the game seven party last year also attracted the "goon" crowd looking to recreate the (smaller but still significant) 1994 game seven riot which occurred after the Canucks lost to the Rangers in New York. Not that Vancouver doesn't have it's share of bad fan behaviour... my mom had a co-worker from Chicago who once got Timbits (Canada's national mini donut) thrown at her when she wore a Blackhawks jersey in public.
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