2012-12-21, 20:12 | Link #21921 |
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Could it be possible that the reason the Invisible Thing was so much weaker when it faced Othinus than when it faced Fiamma was because only Touma's right hand was crushed during the confrontation with Othinus while Fiamma severed his entire right arm.
I think Imagine Breaker is like a plug sealing that Invisible Thing and when Fiamma severed Touma's right arm, the plug was fully opened but when Othinus crushed his right hand, the plug was only sightly opened. |
2012-12-21, 20:38 | Link #21922 |
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I don't think so. As I understand it, Othinus' ability as a majin was to have a 50/50 chance of accomplishing whatever she set out to accomplish. With Touma's luck as bad as it was, the suppressing of the Invisible Thing was heavily skewed to Othinus' side.
Besides I doubt something as having his whole right arm cut off when compared to crushing to sever the right hand would make that much of a difference as Imagine Breaker still resides in his right hand - end result is still the same in either case.
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2012-12-21, 21:39 | Link #21923 | |
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I have a few questions... According to Tsuchimikado, the leylines are one of the few examples of supernatural phenomenons that are not affected by imagine breaker, however Birdway claims in NT vol. 2 that the are affected. Therefore, who is right? life energy is another example, but in the case someone is refining said energy to create MAGICAL energy inside their bodies, wouldn't imagine breaker destroy said magical energy? And by destroying said energy as it is still stored inside the magicians body, could that not harm said magician? can touma affect Gemstones? thanks to those who answer Last edited by Javiersansano; 2012-12-21 at 21:48. Reason: remaining doubts |
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2012-12-21, 22:06 | Link #21925 |
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Well Tsuchimikado was only speculating when it came to ley lines. IB only negates the supernatural so it will only nullify magical energy and do no harm to the soul or magician. As long as IB is in contact with a person, he or she cannot exhibit any supernatural abilities, magician, esper, or gemstone.
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2012-12-21, 22:19 | Link #21926 | |
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2012-12-21, 22:24 | Link #21927 | |
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Indeed, it wasn't any weaker, it's Othinus who's (50%) broken.
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2012-12-21, 22:44 | Link #21929 |
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There's a possibility that Othnius and the other members of Gremlin had been observing the entire showdown between Kamijou and Fiamma, after all how else would they know that Kamijou was the 'Hero of the World'? Crowley can't be the only one paying attention.
This might lead to a lack of 'shock value' when Othnius faced that thing herself- She was already mentally prepared.
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2012-12-21, 23:49 | Link #21930 |
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I had my own theory that why othinus wait till Fiamma was defeat to take the spot light and its basically a rock paper game.
Hoy right >> Imperfect Othinus >> Imagen breaker >> Holy right Basically Luck >> Probability >> Bad Luck >> Luck If Ken Akamatsu can flesh over 75 characters I am sure Kamichi.exe can doit. |
2012-12-21, 23:55 | Link #21931 | |
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What were the decent result. If I recalled correctly that Invisible Thing didn't do anything except reveal itself and tried to attack Fiamma but was held back by Touma. |
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2012-12-22, 08:41 | Link #21934 | |
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gods be darn. They will fall prey in front of a campione!!!! campione is a good work too, if only IF!!! the darn blatant french/adult kiss wasn't added just to win -_- I feel stupid when I' reading that part and....well generic harem antics ;_;
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2012-12-22, 08:46 | Link #21935 | |
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And well on the subject of Majin hax vs Holy Right hax...it's just a contest of whose hax overrides whom. From what is shown so far, it favors Othinus
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2012-12-22, 09:04 | Link #21936 | |
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50% vs 100% is no competition.
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2012-12-22, 09:07 | Link #21937 | |
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HR can only win if Othinus does not get the 50%. If she does, well....it's likely that she'll override HR.....a completed HR.
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2012-12-22, 09:15 | Link #21938 | |
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There is nothing wrong with the Holy Right, Fiamma just didn't have the knowledge of the Maijin to use it properly (hence why he needed Index). But even in it's half-assed stated he's still continuously, and reliably pushing the I.W.I.N button. It's nice to have a power that you can count on. Which doesn't seem all that favoring one side now does it?
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2012-12-22, 09:18 | Link #21939 |
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I'm saying in the context of facing Othinius. Then, he's not constantly pushing the I WIN button...he's only as good as doing so half the time too.
As for HR itself...well, Osirian HR completed cannot beat the thing inside Touma. Horus is unknown at this point
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2012-12-22, 09:25 | Link #21940 | |
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Again there's nothing wrong with Holy Right itself.
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