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Perfect 10 | 33 | 44.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 22 | 29.33% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 18.67% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 6.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.33% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-03-16, 13:03 | Link #201 | ||
Moving in circles
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 49
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2012-03-16, 13:58 | Link #202 | |
Lost in my dreams...
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 37
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The anomaly is something that could have been noticed only with repeated pattern and someone keeping continuous tabs on the situation, ala Chibiki. The fastest they could have become aware of an anomaly would have been after the first year of deaths, after which a student would have disappeared, provided someone (again, most likely Chibiki) would remember about it. And even only one year wouldn't have been enough, it takes at least two similar cases to begin suspecting a pattern after all. The very first year it happened however no one could have possibly been aware of an anomaly at work, and would have no reason to consider such a possibility, and as such we can safely assume that the students being aware of the potential of that being the case isn't necessary for the anomaly to activate. On another note, personally I think we won't ever receive any concrete answers about the inner workings of the phenomenon. As much as I'd like that (if for no other reason than to put all the speculations to rest ), I simply don't see where such an information could come from. It's an intangible phenomenon after all. Chibiki is probably the closest thing to an "expert" we have on the case, and even then it's evident there's a lot he doesn't know. All his knowledge is based on observing patterns and drawing conclusions based on those patterns, and that's probably the best anyone can do - observe and note down that A, B and C is happening, and that action X might cause reaction Y, but actually determining why X triggers Y would be beyond their capabilities. So ... yeah, when all is said and done, I don't think we will be any wiser about the phenomenon's inner workings. That's information that's simply beyond our cast's reach, unless Mei starts seeing visions with her eye as well, not only "death"
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2012-03-16, 15:29 | Link #203 | |||
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Chibiki himself said that what probably startet everything was his and the students idea to deny Yomiyama Misaki's death and treat him as if he were still there. All because of their selfishness of being unable to accept death. That wish was so strong that it drew the dead Misaki back into class and even left an imprint on their graduation photo. Now what does that tell us if we take Chibiki's analogy of the flood or natural disaster again? By denying one death and practically drawing a dead person back into class they are themselves placed nearer to death. It's like cementing in a river, which makes it easier to control but on the other hand makes it impossible for excess water to be lead into the ground. Now what if not only the result remained but the cause as well? People are always unable to accept death and sometimes to the point of deying it happened in the first place. Now what if the dead one isn't so much chosen randomly, but is actually wished back into existence by their peers? Quote:
Chibiki said that between '76 and '80 (when he quit) the 3-3 was already known as "the cursed class" as it had happened at least 4 times. He started making his theory in the mid 70's after teachers told him about vanishing students, but all he could do was go through different methods one after another. And it's not like that is the only thing. Apart from that you have to explain this to every new person who comes into contact with the 3-3. The headmasters always seemed to be rather unwilling to believe in the supernatural...and isn't that just understandable? Or what if you were a student? Even if you heard from a teacher that your class is cursed, would you just believe that? It's a constant struggle against rationalism...which shows when even not all students of the current 3-3 believe in the supernatural per se. Quote:
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2012-03-16, 18:02 | Link #204 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Greater Boston
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1. The phenomenon wouldn't allow it. If someone connected to Class 3-3 tried to explain the phenomenon -- even indirectly -- they would be killed, just like Takabayashi was in episode 5. If someone not connected to Class 3-3 tried to explain the phenomenon, the phenomenon would find some way to prevent it (or at least postpone it), like the cassette tape being unraveled. The only consistent way for someone like Kouichi to learn about the phenomenon is piece-by-piece, as has been happening episode-by-episode. 2. The story would be really shitty otherwise. Stupid characters are a staple of the horror genre (and even the mystery genre at times), so I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for this one. |
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2012-03-19, 06:21 | Link #208 |
Zetsubou gunsou
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Switzerland
Age: 43
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Aye, the culprit is obvious:
It's Haguruma with the candlestick in the lounge! Jokes aside, quality control must be hellish when making those episodes. With so many people scrutinizing the show for clues, any error in the animation is bound to be noticed. Last edited by don_Durandal; 2012-03-19 at 06:36. |
2012-07-24, 18:15 | Link #210 | |
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If Izumi was SOOOOO concerned about the safety of her classmates, perhaps instead of volunteering for the position she DID take, she should have volunteered to be socially dead. Apparently she thinks it's an easy job to do. Your comment about how if you were in Izumi's shoes, you'd have taken a more mechanical route in asking for the apology...I'm concluding you mean under the same circumstances, where you failed at your job and you have the audacity to call someone else out for failing at theirs??? That's just absurd. You don't throw stones when you live in a glass house. Izumi LOST her right to say anything. I have to wonder if in the end if this will be a record year for deaths accredited to the phenomenon due to how EVERYONE royally screwed up. The one who should take the most responsibility was the one acting all high and mighty demanding an apology from Mei. Which is why it aggravated me to no end, until Koichi stuck up for Mei, so sweet. Izumi got what she deserved with that, it bit her in the derriere, and Koichi told Mei she didn't need to apologize for any of it. Maybe he realized himself that he was the one who kept pushing the envelope to get closer to Mei. At the end of that little confrontation, Mei came out on top, which is why I'm glad Izumi did bare her fangs, even if I don't think she had any right to talk about someone else not doing their job. Pot, Kettle, Black as far as I'm concerned. NOBODY told Koichi he couldn't talk to Mei, and Mei had no way of knowing (while grieving for her twin who JUST died) that the boy she introduced herself to was going to be the transfer student in her class. They already talked, thus he already "broke the rule" and so therefore it is NOT Mei's problem that Koichi became like a stalker to get closer to her. She agreed to take on the burden of being the ignored, so the classmates who get a social life should have taken on the responsibility of informing Koichi about the rules. I think there's a good deal of apologizing to go around, and in the end, Mei is correct. It isn't going to help anything. You can say healing all you want, but none of these people did what they were supposed to do, and Mei had this cute transfer student chasing her all the way home! What's a chick to do? I can't blame Mei for this much less think she owes anyone ANYTHING in the way of an apology. It appears that Izumi's little drama queen rant (and her own apology which she damn well owed if she wanted one out of Mei) seemed like nothing more than a jealous hussy showing her true colors. Spoiler for WARNING! Manga spoiler:
I don't see how Mei was unreasonable, she DID apologize to the class and the brat requesting it. Was she so wrong to speak her opinion before she did so? I don't think so. If Izumi can run off at the mouth, why can't Mei have her say too? If you consider Koichi's personality (he's drawn to a mystery) the more Mei tried to avoid him without talking, the more he was going to be on her panty line with a dozen questions regardless of whether she answered even one of them. This was a HUGE miss, and NOT BY MEI. No matter what, he was attracted to her and couldn't treat her like she didn't exist. He's drawn to her like a moth to a flame. He chased her no matter where she went. Her home, the library, the roof, by the yellow flowers etc. Once again I'd like to reiterate that Mei was not wrong to keep her private life private. She was within her rights to do that. Obviously it's not easy for her to share. Koichi probably shouldn't repeat it either seeing as how it was such private info, but he already went and hunted down the twin's name from the Mizuno and was trying to get info about Mei from anyone he could, but because his classmates acted so strangely, he was forced to go to the source. Mei may well have completely ignored Koichi to the best of her ability if her twin hadn't been the victim of April. She already believed the curse underway and since all of her USELESS classmates didn't tell Koichi to stay away from her, at least she tried to get the message across. (Not that Koichi listened and I love him for that!) As for Izumi's "so called stress" that you mentioned, don't you think Mei is suffering just as much if not more? Or is because she doesn't blubber like a whale she can't be distraught over the loss of her twin that you ignore the fact that she's probably crying rivers on the inside? People dealing with that sort of grief do NOT always make the most rational decisions, and it seems to me that Izumi has had far more time to adjust to her loss than Mei has had to adjust to hers. So why are you taking Izumi's side again? I shouldn't get so worked up, but it's this type of thinking, that someone doesn't have a right to privacy for the greater good of the masses makes me feel like I've got lightning going up my rear end for pete's sake! --- I just loved the Koichi/Mei interactions in ep. 10 They have so much chemistry!!
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