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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 14 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 104 | 53.61% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 55 | 28.35% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 8.76% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 4.64% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 2.58% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 1.03% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.03% | |
Voters: 194. You may not vote on this poll |
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2009-09-12, 00:18 | Link #202 | |
餓鬼に興味ない、俺の好みは年上の美女だ
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Shitty old London. They must've been on drugs when they built this place, WTF were they smoking!!!
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If you're really bothered to, go watch the last scene Melancholy VI again and compare it with the end of this episode, you'll notice its the exact same people and cars that go pass. On a sidenote, the part where Nagato is vampire biting Mikuru-chan, it makes me wonder if Kyoani just read that on a few forums and thought "hey that's a good-ass idea, lets use it"
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2009-09-12, 00:24 | Link #203 | |
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2009-09-12, 00:30 | Link #204 | |
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2009-09-12, 00:33 | Link #205 | |
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Given how large the fanbase for the show it is entirely possible that a portion (albiet small) of the audience would not have a problem with this gimmick and see it in a positive light. Why would they blame a studio for a slight they never saw? Going further, just because they happen to be fans of Haruhi (that happen to made by KyoAni) doesn't mean that all fans of Haruhi view the creators as infallible. There are other posts in this subforum that decry E8 and they had had no reservation to post their discontent. What you have is a mixed fanbase with as many interpretations and tolerances that one would expect from those other fandoms you cited.
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2009-09-12, 02:23 | Link #206 | |
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2009-09-12, 03:39 | Link #207 | |
餓鬼に興味ない、俺の好みは年上の美女だ
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2009-09-12, 04:47 | Link #208 |
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So this was the last episode for this season? What about the disappearance? Hmm ...
Anyways, does anyone wanna make an updated chronological order now that the season is over? I feel like watching the series again, it'll at least keep me alive before September ends, god I hate school. |
2009-09-12, 04:48 | Link #209 |
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Wow... I gotta say that is episode was the best one in the series for me. For one, the cat was awesome , and more importantly, it allowed us to peek into the psyche of the 3 people who are using kyon to control haruhi, which really makes this anime stand out. Finally, the scene with yuki was trippy as hell!
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Anyway, crackpot theory time! Spoiler for just in case:
I was also rewatching episode 00 again and noticed some things. Spoiler for episode 00:
Gahh lots of text here, sorry bout that. But these are observations that I've made. I've left out other theories which are not mine, as to not recycle the same old stuff. That said, if these observations have all ready been made, then my bad. |
2009-09-12, 04:54 | Link #210 | |
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Triple R said to me previously that K and K are expert trolls, and politicians. Well, I do agree with that. But seeing this episode unfold the way it did, I must add that underneath all this they are great story tellers. Whoever is doing this is really thinking about the narrative. They've managed to combine the slice-of-life and the sci-fi intrigue so well. Ending with the prologue is another splash of creativity that makes me think whatever budgeting constraints and corporate considerations need to be made, they're taking the meaning of this series to heart. Maybe I'm being too mushy here, but considering we're in an economic crisis I think they've done a hell of a job recreating this series after three years. I really do think there's a level of care going into this that surpasses many other stories. On that note, the future is uncertain. They've done so well weaving this narrative that they could stop it here and leave the fans with so many unanswered questions. Or, they could keep going, having set up intrigues and inter-character conflicts left unexplored for now. I don't know how it will go, but if this is where it ends I must encourage everyone to read the novels. The story really delivers. I spent the summer reading it (on the beach I might add!) and enjoyed it all. |
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2009-09-12, 04:57 | Link #211 | |||
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The moe aspect is about the only aspect that I actually liked in each and every EE iteration. Quote:
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I'm just looking for people to admit that KyoAni is not infallible. That's it. Nothing else. I'm not going read a criticism of E8 into that. You can believe that E8 was not a mistake, but that KoyAni is fallible. ... Frankly, if somebody can't admit that KyoAni is fallible, then that obviously throws his or her entire defense of KyoAni on any matter into question. Because such a lack of an admittance shows that he or she will try to rationalize anything that KyoAni does.
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2009-09-12, 05:02 | Link #212 | |
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2009-09-12, 05:05 | Link #213 |
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So, will there even be a season 2?
It'd be really funny if the name "The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" had nothing to do with the actual novel, and that it just implies the end of the anime series. x) |
2009-09-12, 05:07 | Link #214 | ||
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If I believe KyoAni is infallible, I would have claimed everyone should love Endless Eight. I am not. I am saying just because Endless Eight is not designed to please fans, doesn't make it a failure. It did what it was designed to do, to the detriment of the DVD sales. The fact that those who oppose Episode Eight simultaneously claimed EE was created to improve DVD sales, yet also claim the DVD sales would drop, showed how paradoxical the comments are. A perfect KyoAni would have made an Endless Eight everyone would be happy with. But they are only human, so they made EE the way THEY are happy with, and no one else.
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2009-09-12, 05:10 | Link #215 |
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I still think they'll keep going, but that's because I want to think that way. I like this series. But from a business point of view, why not. They've put effort into this. People love it. It's a good call!
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2009-09-12, 05:43 | Link #217 | ||||
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However... I'm not going to dispute it, because calling it fanservice is even more interesting than calling it moe. If it's fanservice, then that means that a significant part of each and every E8 iteration is fanservice. Kind of flies right in the face of the "E8 is anti-fanservice" idea, don't you think? One theory that I continue to have concerning E8 is that KyoAni simply likes doing cutsey slice-of-life stuff, and E8 is as cutsey slice-of-life as Haruhi ever gets, so... Quote:
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Still, thanks for basically saying that KyoAni is fallible. I don't think that you're a "fanboy", Vallen... which is precisely why I was befuddled by your seeming refusal to even consider that they may have made a mistake here. Quote:
Kaioshin has stated that E8 won't hurt DVD sales, but I don't think that he's ever said that they'll actually improve DVD sales. I'm open to be corrected by him on the matter, though. No, I never. You can consider that E8 made a mistake with out arriving at that conclusion. It's two different things, Kogetsu. Some people aren't even considering the possibility that E8 may have been a mistake.
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2009-09-12, 06:03 | Link #219 | |
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2009-09-12, 06:03 | Link #220 | ||
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And why have you refused to even consider they might NOT have made a mistake? This goes both ways. Keep in mind, anime is a low paying industry. People go into anime the same reason they go into making video games; because they love it. If the crew wanted money, and only money, they wouldn't be in the business. I find it baffling that so many in this very thread refused to believe there is a SHRED of artistic integrity in Kyoto Animation, as if they are all blood sucking ghouls or something. At no time have I claimed you need to like EE. Neither do I think you should buy the DVDs if you don't want to. Hell, KyoAni have numbered the DVD boxes in such a way that you don't need to buy Endless Eight to fill the gaps. But I reject the idea that Endless Eight could have existed without someone in the team knowing this isn't going to be profitable, it's just that they decided to follow through anyway because that's what they wanted.
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