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View Poll Results: Madoka Magica - Episode 10 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 294 | 82.12% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 39 | 10.89% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 3.63% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 1.96% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 0.56% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 0.56% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.28% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-03-10, 22:30 | Link #202 | |
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The other thing that bothers me is that people keep making assumptions that the only way to defeat the system is to destroy it. This is a paradox. Homura is stuck in the system and has to use the system to save Madoka. Even if she manages to save Madoka past the Walpurgis's defeat, the SYSTEM STILL REMAINS. This was the point of showing that even defeating the Witch still ends up in Homura losing Madoka. The reason why I outlined why Homura's only way to beat the system is to discover a loophole that meets certain conditions is because this episode clearly outlined the reasons why every attempt that Homura has made to save Madoka has failed and why QB always wins in the end due to his Xanatos Gambit. Seeing people insist that merely wishing it all away is the solution is frustrating. Kyubey won't do anything to endanger his sweet setup. The only reason Homura has a chance of finding a way to a good end is because of the same single mindset that he has - Madoka is the central goal for both of their missions. His, to take Madoka's energy after she turns into a Witch. Homura's, to prevent Madoka's death or Madoka becoming a Witch. There is no way to resolve this under the current system. Homura needs a Third Option.
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2011-03-10, 22:33 | Link #205 | |
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I can't shake this image that the real bad guy of this anime is basically the alien version of George W. Bush, and Kyubey is akin to a Haliburton operative exploiting the locals in order to get the oil.
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2011-03-10, 22:33 | Link #206 | |
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As absurd as it may sound, having tried countless times to save Madoka she might soon reach that conclusion. |
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2011-03-10, 22:34 | Link #207 | |
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Example, if i sold ovens on a commission basis, making a few thousand dollars from less than a hundred sales and some guy came came and bought 10 million for use as the standard oven for his entire country, i could then retire with 100 million in the bank. Of course if i knew the ovens were badly made and would poison everyone in the country in 10 months, killing 10 million, why should i care? I made more than enough and i'm apparently not evil too |
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2011-03-10, 22:35 | Link #208 | ||
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Also, to saying QB is evil: Is Homura not doing the same thing? For the sake of Madoka, she is willing to sacrifice entire timelines of people. For you to say that she is not "evil" means that "evil" is quantifiable in human lives. Just want to make sure you realize the gravity of your argument. Quote:
What if you had a guarantee that if you killed ten million individuals, you would save ten times that in return? |
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2011-03-10, 22:36 | Link #209 | |
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2011-03-10, 22:38 | Link #212 |
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Well, no one would willingly acknowledge their acts as evil, right? The ones that do tend to either suffer an immediate BSOD or turn manically destructive.
I guess I should've phrased that differently. For me, good and evil have no merit when you realize the people supporting good and condoning evil tend to be bloody hypocrites. |
2011-03-10, 22:38 | Link #213 | |
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2011-03-10, 22:39 | Link #214 |
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I am talking about killing her before contracting, before the Walpurgis Night occurs. Though it is not acceptable, there is hardly an other clear way out unless something that can possibly alter the MG/Witch system is brought up (without looking like a deus-ex machina type of resolving).
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2011-03-10, 22:41 | Link #217 | ||
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2011-03-10, 22:42 | Link #218 |
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Homura's situation is pretty tricky when you think about it.
Kyubey = Can't be killed, can't get him to go away Mami = Will completely snap if she learns the whole truth, seems to start out already a magical girl. Madoka = Idealistic. Wants to be a magical girl (unless she sees one die first). Sayaka = Won't believe you. Wants to be a magical girl. Has a great wish motive. Kyoko = Starts out only caring about herself. Homura has quite the rubik's cube to solve here. Although I do agree that she might as well try to get her hands on a nuke, and see if that'll work. I can think of some extreme ways that might work (kidnap Madoka on Day 1, drag her out of the country, hope the other magical girls can handle Walpurgis Night on their own), but anything more straightforward is tricky.
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2011-03-10, 22:44 | Link #220 | |
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Besides, the Mahou Shoujo aren't technically human either. Is it really fair to label them as good or evil when they are no longer effected by the sway of humanity? |
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