2013-01-24, 00:22 | Link #23481 | |
Imagine Breaker
Join Date: Mar 2011
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That would be interesting although Accelerator cut off those shackles he and GROUP had because of the Dark Side but yeah- OMG What if AIM Stalker causes 05 Kakine to fall in love with Rikou
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2013-01-24, 00:43 | Link #23484 | |||||
オンドリャァァァ!!!
Join Date: May 2009
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I'll actually be in agreement with Touma if himself getting victimized by Birdway is what he was ranting about. I have stated above too Birdway sacrificing people is a valid argument against her. But I truly see that is a point Touma derailed from. Quote:
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I guess he is cutting his own flesh in Baggage City. But what does it amount to? Because he don't want get his supporter involved, so he can cut his own flesh, he end up arriving so late into the city, when the tragedy is half way through. He was paper thin in front of Othinus, and would not have made it out if Ollerus had not arrived. He was just drowning in his Messiah complex. Cutting own flesh is worthwhile as a selfless sacrifice, as it actually attracts people to support you. But Touma has cross the line by ditching other people so he can be the one to cut flesh. I guess I can now understand Mikoto's distress when she was left behind. She is one of those attracted to Touma due to his selflessness, but end up thrown behind when Touma start to take that behavior the wrong way. Quote:
What I can't stand is Touma trying to say he is better when he is half baked as well. Quote:
Like I said, this is a lose lose situation. When you gain something, you open up another loop hole for casualties. |
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2013-01-24, 00:55 | Link #23487 | ||
We're Back
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Redgrave City
Age: 35
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shmaster, I don't want to drag this argument any longer than I have to and damper the mood, so hopefully this is the last one I'm posting on this subject since we're pretty much going in circles and enough people have already stated their thoughts on it.
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Maybe that two weeks it took for them to reach Academy City in NT1. Or that three days(?) of preparation for them to go to Hawaii. Certainly plenty of time before 'all hell has already happened'. Quote:
This as well wouldn't have been as bad had she bothered to tell the people helping her of her plan.
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2013-01-24, 01:17 | Link #23488 |
Daydreamer
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: in the windowless building
Age: 31
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@shmaster
Humans are creatures with emotions. They will always defend their thoughts and rationalize to fit those thoughts in the world. Touma believes he has the power to save people, he believes birdway has that power too. Touma thinks that birdway use her power in the wrong way and as a result cause many casualties. He personally saw those horrible effects and his efforts at that point did little to save people. Thus, it is only normal for touma to be angry at birdway, to be human and blame birdway for those horrible things. I'm not saying what he did was right, but its just that touma is very human. Human would always try to look for things to blame and regret not trying other methods. Thus, all he wanted to say to birdway is that he disagrees with her method and instead thinks there are other better methods. Using himself as bait is only an example. About touma having messiah syndrome: In my opinion, touma being all selfless and self sacrificial does not mean he is insane. You have to understand how the human mind works. It realises it can't have everything. It realises it has to weigh one thing above another. It realises that having that more important thing does not equate to happiness. To touma, he weighs a happy life with everyone happy around him far more than a peaceful life for himself but surrounded with unhappy and dead people to the point where he is willing to sacrifice his own life for it. This is very human and normal. Its just what is most important to him. Nothing more, nothing less. |
2013-01-24, 01:20 | Link #23489 |
今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている
Join Date: Jan 2009
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To be honest, with the kind of allies he has, calling them wouldn't waste much time. Call Kanzaki, call Accelerator even...The English royal court also more than owes him. Giving them a call while heading over would not have hurt.
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2013-01-24, 02:31 | Link #23490 | |
We're Back
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Redgrave City
Age: 35
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Unit 05 struggling for control was a bit too matrixish for my understanding so the only parts I got was after it 'blooms into a flower' I like how they used 'infinite possibilities' in this as well, almost like it's mirroring Othinus' own 'infinite possibilities'. So the question now is what would happen to Kakine Teitoku? Would he proceed to creep the hell out of Accelerator and Mugino with super polite mannerism and genuine happy smile and baby green innocent eyes ?
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2013-01-24, 02:57 | Link #23495 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Off-topic: @Sumeragi Have you seen GJ-bu? there's one cool Sumeragi there. |
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2013-01-24, 03:16 | Link #23499 |
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Accelerator : who are you...!!!! Is this a play, a deception? To make me off guard !!! Oh no you don't ...you won't trick me like this...
Kakine : who is tricking you? I just here to play with last order, and want to say sorry for all I did...or at least what the other me did... (accelerator coughing blood) Last order : you are mean...beetle only want to play... Fremea : yeah...he is now part of hamazura trope... Kakine : I'm not beetle..I'm kakine...but oh well |
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action, dengeki bunko, fantasy, light novels, science fiction, shounen |
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