Higurashi - Game Discussion (spoilers lurk here)

[xPearse]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

I saw the dub too. I didn't care for the adult characters either, that much, and I really didn't like Keiichi's voice. Rena's was also kinda grating. Rebecca Forstadt, Rika's voice actor, has publicly stated how much she hated the series, so it's not surprising she did a terrible job.

Not dub Keiichi? Come on, he voiced dub Gilgamesh in Deen's Fate/Stay Night adaption. That, and a bunch of other roles I've enjoyed hearing his voice in. Its also worthy to note that Rena's English dub VA voiced Rin in it, too. I liked both performances from her, why do I enjoy Deen but others don't, why!? Also, source for Minmay hate on Higurashi please

Originally Posted by Shikou

The common mistake people make when comparing English dub with the Japanese dub is not really knowing the characters or know what their character traits are and most of the time say "But they dont sound like their Japanese voice actors!!" well no duh, its another language. They got the characters down to a point it's a decent dub. I welcome English dubs honestly and get excited when a series I like gets dubbed into English.

Higurashi is one of those dubs that get a lot better as the series progress. The script for the English dub is actually pretty spot on and the voice actors give it more flavor and give their characters a personality as the Japanese voice actors did. There are times where they add a sudden joke that is relevant and would make sense for it to be there for the scene unlike a certain Sentai Filmworks dub of HighSchool Of The Dead where they add something that has nothing to do with whats going on and have everybody cursing in every line possible.

Yeah, I agree. Even if the dub quality may not be so great, the dialogue and character quirks were spot on. I especially enjoyed Mion's VA. Also, did someone just mention HOTD? What do you know, I've got a little history with that, spent two whole entire years creating a mediocre mod for Mount & Blade I did, just FYI. Anyway, a great show, but the dub did stupidly add in some lines, I think it was something to do with the dogs name and Rei saying a M14 (I think, can't remember) was an AK47. I don't think either were in the subtitles. However, the dub was great and so were the voices, and I really didn't mind the cursing. It fit the tone for me. Also, I like Sentai dubs, most of them at least, Night Raid still gives me nightmares.

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by xPearse

Not dub Keiichi? Come on, he voiced dub Gilgamesh in Deen's Fate/Stay Night adaption. That, and a bunch of other roles I've enjoyed hearing his voice in. Its also worthy to note that Rena's English dub VA voiced Rin in it, too. I liked both performances from her, why do I enjoy Deen but others don't, why!? Also, source for Minmay hate on Higurashi please

Both were Geneon dubs, so DEEN really has nothing to do with either. I'm not claiming Keiichi's VA was a bad VA, I'm just saying that attempting to sound as close to the Japanese ended with a character who not only doesn't sound like a teenaged boy, but who's voice cracking is so nasally I really wonder why the girls would want him to join their club at all.

As for Rebecca Forstadt? I... actually don't remember where I got it. It was in a panel at a Con, and somebody asked if there were plans to bring over Kai, and she basically said "There was a second season? Whatever, I haven't been told, and I don't really care." She called it a "mindless torture porn." Yeah, not the nicest thing to say. However, I don't have a source, so if you still want to have your Macross/Higurashi fantasy, there's nothing stopping you. She does use a picture of Rika in the art for her website, so maybe I'm misremembering anyhow.

(Anyway, continuing on Higurashi fantasy dub cast, I think Todd Haberkorn might work as Keiichi, and definitely Brittney Karbowski as Rena. Megan Hollingshead was perfect as Mion/Shion and doesn't need to be recast.)

[Shikou]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

As for Rebecca Forstadt? I... actually don't remember where I got it. It was in a panel at a Con, and somebody asked if there were plans to bring over Kai, and she basically said "There was a second season? Whatever, I haven't been told, and I don't really care." She called it a "mindless torture porn." Yeah, not the nicest thing to say. However, I don't have a source, so if you still want to have your Macross/Higurashi fantasy, there's nothing stopping you. She does use a picture of Rika in the art for her website, so maybe I'm misremembering anyhow.

I do think its unprofessional to say that publicly because that will damage her image (its ok for her to have her own opinion but...) and maybe something shes famous for might be a role she doesn't care about or hated doing (in this case famous for voicing Rika lol).

I would love to see a video if there is one btw

[Katsu Koneko]

Ooh they released the new video on unlisted this time.

Speaking of the Rei translation: Hirukowashi-hen and 北/kita.

It's been a while Daybreak PSP OP.

[xPearse]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

Both were Geneon dubs, so DEEN really has nothing to do with either. I'm not claiming Keiichi's VA was a bad VA, I'm just saying that attempting to sound as close to the Japanese ended with a character who not only doesn't sound like a teenaged boy, but who's voice cracking is so nasally I really wonder why the girls would want him to join their club at all.

As for Rebecca Forstadt? I... actually don't remember where I got it. It was in a panel at a Con, and somebody asked if there were plans to bring over Kai, and she basically said "There was a second season? Whatever, I haven't been told, and I don't really care." She called it a "mindless torture porn." Yeah, not the nicest thing to say. However, I don't have a source, so if you still want to have your Macross/Higurashi fantasy, there's nothing stopping you. She does use a picture of Rika in the art for her website, so maybe I'm misremembering anyhow.

Yeah, I know that. There's actually a few more shows the same VA's are in, although I haven't saw them. Anyhow, I was speaking in general about DEEN, since the general opinion of them isn't very high while I on the other hand have enjoyed most of their works I have saw. Also, shock of all shock, when I said Minmay (hard to call her anything else), I meant Robotech, not yack deculture Macross. However, I have saw everything of both.

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by Katsu Koneko

Ooh they released the new video on unlisted this time.

Speaking of the Rei translation: Hirukowashi-hen and 北/kita.

It's been a while Daybreak PSP OP.

...what a strange order. I didn't even think we made it to the Answer Arcs yet, and already they're revealing the bonus stuff? Hum...

[Levani]

I don't even consider that arc canon...

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by FXtreme

All this talk about different story arcs makes me want to ask, what are your favorite and least favorite story arcs?

My absolute favorite arc is Tsumihoroboroshi-hen, and, ironically, Onikakushi is my least favorite.

[sona-nyl]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

...what a strange order. I didn't even think we made it to the Answer Arcs yet, and already they're revealing the bonus stuff? Hum...

Meakashi has already had a video and Hirukowashi is the third arc on the second Kizuna game (that Meakashi is a part of). They seem to be relasing the videos in the same order as in Kizuna while also adding the two arcs exclusive to the PS2 version.

That means the next video will be Kageboushi-hen.

[Levani]

Originally Posted by FXtreme

All this talk about different story arcs makes me want to ask, what are your favorite and least favorite story arcs?

Meakashi and Minagoroshi are my favorites.

My absolute least favorite is Tatarigoroshi. I think you can guess why.

My least favorite is Tatarigoroshi too, I just couldn't handle Keiichi in this arc, he was way too annoying.

[Levani]

Bath scene or not, I'm not a big fan of the arc. There's just only so much I can handle of Keiichi being a dick to Rena, Mion and Rika. Especially Mion, when he accused her of murder, I was like, oh Keiichi, seriously, fuck you.

[Shikou]

So whats the message so far? Or do I have to go dig it out myself?

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

...what a strange order. I didn't even think we made it to the Answer Arcs yet, and already they're revealing the bonus stuff? Hum...

So apparently Meakashi isn't an answer arc anymore or did you forget it came out last week?

[Katsu Koneko]

So far it's: とがの花条手いは北

Deen did push Meakashi in season 1, but yeah it is an answer arc. My favorite arc is Minagoroshi hands down, not sure what my least favorite is. I would have to reread it all. It used to be Himatsubushi-hen though when I first watched the anime.

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by Shikou

So apparently Meakashi isn't an answer arc anymore or did you forget it came out last week?

I did forget. The PS2 arc that came afterward wasn't an Answer arc so I got confused.

Anyway, I really do have to agree with Gura. Tatarigoroshi is the best Question Arc. Keiichi's behavior totally makes sense in context, and I actually find that aspect of him far more interesting than the everyman hero he's portrayed as later.

[LAMBDADELTO]

I so lovee MEAKASHI-HEN it made me cry on the novel Q_Q and i love shion I did a gree to her for killing that old granny and the others until satoko and rika they didn't deserve to be killed u.u

[Vokoca]

Favourite arcs? My favourite would be probably Minagoroshi (although Meakashi is a strong contender too), and my least favourite would be Tatarigoroshi, mainly because every time Satoko opens her mouth and starts going off in her wannabe high class old Japanese I want to slap her until she shuts up. That and Keiichi had some quite dumb moments, although it was fun seeing him move the plot for once.

[TheGuraGuraMan]

You're the only one shouting unnecessary "critiques" about Keiichi or Higurashi and began this. I've been simply saying that was retarded and why.

[Levani]

Holy shit, I have no words. I've never encountered a troll this hilarious in my life.

and began this

How dare you, you little piece of scrap. Don't you dare say that I'm the bad guy here when you're the one calling people stupid.

I've been simply saying that was retarded and why

Thank you for calling my opinion retarded, the feeling is mutual, if you didn't know.

[xPearse]

Let's not try to get personal here guys, the mods are probably watching.

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

Anyway, I really do have to agree with Gura. Tatarigoroshi is the best Question Arc. Keiichi's behavior totally makes sense in context.

I agree also, everything Keiichi does is right from his perspective and current knowledge, but also add that he was under influence of the virus so he "may" have not been thinking as straight and have done what he did if he were not. Also, the way the story is set up is great for first time readers (like Gura said) since you're meant to consider yourself what is truth and what's not. Although, I don't find it right that he insulted someone again, but I understand why he did. Meaning, you would already have known all of these facts after reading/watching that arc, so your opinion shouldn't be what it is. That said, its like complaining how Keiichi was angry with Mion about not telling him or the others that Satoko's uncle came back.

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

Keiichi's behavior totally makes sense in context, and I actually find that aspect of him far more interesting than the everyman hero he's portrayed as later.

Inconsistent writing or genius? Also, speaking of inconsistency, anyone find it odd how the possible sexual abuse Satoko suffered was cancelled out years later in another arc? As if, R07 didn't want to be seen as "like that", or something. What I mean is, that act was possible from what we knew at that time in which that arc was released, so, did R07 want to retcon that fact years later?

Anyway, my favorite arcs are Onikakushi and Taitagorashi, while Shion's answer arc (I don't like Satoshi) and the last two arcs are my least favorite.

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by xPearse

Inconsistent writing or genius? Also, speaking of inconsistency, anyone find it odd how the possible sexual abuse Satoko suffered was cancelled out years later in another arc? As if, R07 didn't want to be seen as "like that", or something. What I mean is, that act was possible from what we knew at that time in which that arc was released, so, did R07 want to retcon that fact years later?

I don't think it was inconsistent, I just think he wanted to shift focus onto Keiichi's good aspects of his personality. As for Satoko and sexual abuse? Uhm, I'm not sure. When I first read Tatarigoroshi, I didn't notice anything implying that the abuse was sexual, but then again, maybe I just missed it, and it has been some time.

Originally Posted by FXtreme

Yeah, the manga version of Meakashi is also so much more emotional than the anime.

The way they changed it in the anime is downright heinous. I don't understand how they got away with neutering everything so much.