(L) MM! (anime)

[Francismeunier]

Originally Posted by Jarmel

Oh I'm sure that's going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in the next episode as Tarou looks beat up and not in the usual happy way so I wonder if he lost in a fight to Yoshioka.

It could be Yumi also.....she was going to beat Tarou from what looks like the preview. I will be really happy if they do it in the next episode and Yuno recognizes him more....since I know what happens even further between them.

Originally Posted by pampz21

after watching the subs....1 things for sure it was a great episode!....
If Yashioka guy was certainly real...I'll probably kill him after he went outside of his house....
It made me remember my crush who has a BF.....
when that guy break up with her...I killed him ryt after school!
I was suspended for 3 days....hahaha!

Heck yeah! Spoke my thoughts out further! Glad to be in your team if ever you need me....though I would have to fly to your place to help you....not sure since I do a lot of farming.

Originally Posted by ZeKeR

i can now officially stab someone in the back now

You mean Yoshioka? Then include me to do another back stab to him.

Originally Posted by tsunade666

I like to kill that good looking sempai just because he looks cool and has status he thinks he could do anything. I hate that kind of bas*ard

The joy could not be expressed in words of how much I am towards all who are my team to beat Yoshioka. All aboard!

[Kanon]

Episode was surprisingly good. Yet another androphobic girl, is that a trend this year? As was already noted, the second part of the episode was very reminiscent of Working!! The main difference being, the main character isn't the crossdresser here, and he actually loves getting hit (Yuuno and him are perfect for each other, I say). Tatsukichi's split personality took me by surprise, seems like being only a crossdresser was too normal for this show. Looking forward to more of "her".

Yuuno's past was heavier than I thought it'd be. Didn't think this anime would have such serious moments. That was a very nice scene.

[Hypernova]

Anyone noticed?

[Kanon]

^I knew she looked familiar... breasts size is also a match.

[tsunade666]

that's from inu inu right? or did I get the title wrong?

well aside from that due to my rage of some stupid idol looking sempai that thinks he can do what ever he want. I read some novel spoilers about him.

This part is skipped by the anime because it's about the part when Yuuno was telling Tarou about his passed and about that bas*ard sempai.

Spoiler for novel:

It looks like they downplayed the story of back story of yuuno a bit.
The whole story of her middle school is when when that stupid bastard beat her up. She's got terribly injured (I think but she is sure injured) and to top it all her father is with another woman and he didn't even notice the injuries of yuuno. Yuuno manage to heal a bit and return from school but when she got their. All her classmates hate her. Apparently that bastard sempai spread a rumor about her being a slut and her friends which pushes her to go out with the bastard sempai are angry with her and she become isolated by everyone. and it all thanks to that bastard sempai that's the story Yuuno told Tarou when Tarou ask why she fears boys

sorry for the bad words but I really want to kill that sempai.

[Saturn Beaver]

This episode is definitely better, nice backstory development for Yuuno's character, which makes her androphobia makes a lot more sense. At least the people in the volunteer club is very nice to her, and she's getting along better with Tarou too. Speaking of him, he actually has a spine and did care a lot for his friends, but the moment when his M switch is turned on...seriously, the way he's behaving in front of the zookeeper is a bit too much, even for me. I mean, being an M is one thing, but that...hope that they'll either tone it down further or develop his character a bit more. Another WTF surprise come from Tatsukichi's split personality, guess simply being a crossdresser is nowhere near weird enough. Well, so far things are getting better, but I still can't shake my pessimism yet...

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Spoiler for novel:

It looks like they downplayed the story of back story of yuuno a bit.
The whole story of her middle school is when when that stupid bastard beat her up. She's got terribly injured (I think but she is sure injured) and to top it all her father is with another woman and he didn't even notice the injuries of yuuno. Yuuno manage to heal a bit and return from school but when she got their. All her classmates hate her. Apparently that bastard sempai spread a rumor about her being a slut and her friends which pushes her to go out with the bastard sempai are angry with her and she become isolated by everyone. and it all thanks to that bastard sempai that's the story Yuuno told Tarou when Tarou ask why she fears boys

And when I thought I can't hate that bastard more than I already do...Seriously, I really, really hope that he'll get his comeuppance soon, and in the most severe way possible.

Also, I think that's from Hatsu Inu, right? Didn't see it at first, nice catch. She's way different from Yuuno though.

[An4rchy99]

I just started to watch this anime! Did anyone read Ai kora? is this something like that.. with a lot of kinky fetishes?

[tsunade666]

Ai kora created by the mangaka who made midori no hibi and mahou no iroha, pretty good manga and I wish that turn into an anime but guess maeda is too much for anime.

And no it's different. The premises of that is maeda likes fetish. Tarou isn't like that but MM is full of fetishes.

[Seiryuu]

I truly love Yuuno. And, naturally, I now hate this Yoshioka fellow. And if Sado has any balls, the next time he sees the guy he'll make sure that the guy looks nothing like a model from then on. And you know he can do it, he's not weak. And his masochism can help him in a fight, since, though he won't get turned on if he gets hit by a guy, he WILL be able to take it since nothing this fellow could ever do could be as severe as the stuff Mio and Michiru have put him through.

In a small way, Yuuno is a little lucky.

Spoiler:

I'm not saying that what happened to her wasn't horrible, but this Yoshioka sounds like your typical popular creep. He's likely a major narcissist, feels entitled to whatever he wants from a girl he dates, and is overly obsessed about his looks. This sort of person would often not even hesitate to rape, and would feel no remorse because the idea of a girl legitimately not wanting him is patently absurd to him; in his mind, she's playing hard to get a little too much or wants him to be rough, and either way he's doing what she wants. Fortunately, the guy was young enough and sane enough that he was able to stop himself with a punch, unless there's more than what she said in the show.

It's nice to see a well-done androphobe though. A lot of them in anime are just paranoid, inexperienced, or shy and assume without cause that guys are going to be monsters. It's not as common in the shows I've seen that the girl has good reason to fear men. The only other one off the top of my head is a girl from a manga who'd been raped and even impregnated by her own stepfather.


I don't think Sado's a full masochist, and I believe Mio's technique is very flawed. All of the punishment and pain he's experiencing is associated with being close to pretty girls, increasing the association of pain with attraction, arousal and pleasure. Instead pleasant things and experiences of attraction, arousal and pleasure should all be encouraged when there's no pain or shame involved, so that he gets used to getting excited from things other than pain. And at the same time, they should help associate pain with unpleasant things that turn him off. Therefore, they should take him on dates and ...other things... while deliberately avoiding causing him pain, and moreover, they should give him regular doses of pain and humiliation, but at the hands of big, ugly rugby players who reek of sweat. And no matter what, the girls should never hit him themselves; let the rugby boys stomp on him instead.

[tsunade666]

actually their is more to the story of Yuuno which she told to Sado and it's not been mentioned in the anime. Look at my spoiler above. That sempai is dead meat!

I like the idea of rugby boys stomp him. Maybe he could be used as a punching bag for boxing club or some clubs which involve men doing physical damage.

[Midonin]

Originally Posted by KROMEangel

Oh leave em alone. Nothing feels better than seeing an asshole get his comeuppance.

But that won't solve a damn thing. If the them in their delusions responds to the problem of violence with more violence (and if the language is any indication, death), what good will that do? It will only give the victim more of a reason to be angry, which will cause the cycle to continue and perpetrate a rather archaic and stupid idea about what constitutes "manliness". Especially when some of the people saying this have been nearly arrested or faced similar consequences. That's not a desirable outcome for anyone.

[Bombo]

I will start watching this series...I want to know what will happen to that sempai bastard .

[ID555]

A lot better than the first episode, now that there's substance shown beneath all the funny cliches. Darn, I didn't realise cross-dressing guy was played by biribiri. Definitely sticking with this show.

[KROMEangel]

Originally Posted by Midonin

But that won't solve a damn thing. If the them in their delusions responds to the problem of violence with more violence (and if the language is any indication, death), what good will that do? It will only give the victim more of a reason to be angry, which will cause the cycle to continue and perpetrate a rather archaic and stupid idea about what constitutes "manliness". Especially when some of the people saying this have been nearly arrested or faced similar consequences. That's not a desirable outcome for anyone.

You said it yourself right? It's Fictional; we can talk about the guy however we want. He's not real, so there's no consequences for the hate.
Actually, you can blame the directors and writer for setting up an absolutely despicable character who's intention IS to be hated.

I know the difference between the real world and animeland; Hell, I'm sure that just fighting him may not be the solution when asshole-sempai makes his appearance. It's too simple. However, butt-kicking will be involved, and we know all know who we want to get KO'd.

Yeah, KILLING HIM is a bit much, but a "what you did was wrong, bad guy!" just won't cut it. The best option to satisfy us all would have to be a Humiliation Conga.

[Saturn Beaver]

Originally Posted by Midonin

But that won't solve a damn thing. If the them in their delusions responds to the problem of violence with more violence (and if the language is any indication, death), what good will that do? It will only give the victim more of a reason to be angry, which will cause the cycle to continue and perpetrate a rather archaic and stupid idea about what constitutes "manliness". Especially when some of the people saying this have been nearly arrested or faced similar consequences. That's not a desirable outcome for anyone.

Well, at least for me, I can separate reality and fantasy, I'm not they type to immediately hand a beatdown to someone even if I think they deserve it. I know that violence won't really solve anything, but neither does leaving the matter alone. After all, I'm sure that just because Yuuno reject her doesn't mean that he'll stop, if anything I think he'll do it more often to restore his self-confidence. The best course of action is to report him, hopefully there's enough incriminating evidence. If not, then to hopefully try to catch him in the act when he does it again.

About "manliness", well, I agree that just by beating up people doesn't really constitutes as manliness. I consider it more if Tarou, when seeing that Yuuno is confronted with him again (and due to rule of drama, it'll surely happen sooner and later) doesn't turn tail cowardly but try to protect Yuuno. In that case, if he directed his beatdown on Tarou, fighting him back would only be thought of as self-defense. But yeah, even if he don't win (even though it will be more awesome if he does, just because) my impression of Tarou will still be good.

[tsunade666]

mixing 2D and 3D is the baddest thing an Otaku can make.

Even without mixing those two. For 3D world or the real world. I really hate seeing someone hurting a girl specially on my whole life I haven't even close to a girl!!!!

It kinda a hate for popular guys that can do what ever they like because .... well they are what we call pretty boy (remember galactic pretty boy lol)

I wish Tarou would at least beat the hell out of that sempai. But I think Tarou is pretty weak... I mean his always on the M side. The one who always ended up getting in pain though I'm pretty sure his sturdy. Episode two proves it he can withstand being in a boiling water.

[KROMEangel]

Originally Posted by Saturn Beaver

About "manliness", well, I agree that just by beating up people doesn't really constitutes as manliness. I consider it more if Tarou, when seeing that Yuuno is confronted with him again (and due to rule of drama, it'll surely happen sooner and later) doesn't turn tail cowardly but try to protect Yuuno. In that case, if he directed his beatdown on Tarou, fighting him back would only be thought of as self-defense. But yeah, even if he don't win (even though it will be more awesome if he does, just because) my impression of Tarou will still be good.

Oh yeah, the maniliness part.

The whole "beat someone up=being a man" is an archaic thing, of course. By that definition, Yoshioka is also a man, and he's the total opposite of what a man should be.
But I don't want Tarou to go out of his way just to kick his ass. When Yoshioka comes around, Tarou's gotta stand up for himself, and for Yuuno, and not take any of his shit, which he'll obviously start spewing.
Whether he "wins" or not doesn't matter whole lot, as long as he can do that. If it's not about "Slaying the dragon," but protecting Yuuno's (and his own) dignity, then he's got the right idea.
But you know what's better? Letting Yuuno have the final word, and the finishing move. Then we don't have to worry about being Manly at all. >_>

[pampz21]

Spoiler for Spoilerism:

OOOOOhhhh~ YeaH! will be getting bloody!....never thought we got a LN discussion and went an see it...and look at wat it got! too spoilerish though

[KROMEangel]

Dude, tag dat sh*t. You just gave away the good part. >:C

In all the hubbub, I forgot something; Tarou's sister is a college student?!

What, does aging work in reverse in Japan? And I thought I was already used to this.....

[Seiryuu]

Wow. Read that spoiler above, and WOW. seems a little bit familiar though...

Spoiler for concerning what was said earlier about LN material left out:

I haven't read the LNs for either, so I don't know how close it is, but isn't this VERY similar to what happens in Ookami-san? It's not said what the boyfriend in that series did, but it's clear that he made her out to be a bitter liar trying to get back at him for dumping her. Not a terribly far cry from the guy telling people that she's a sl*t and convincing them that he left her because of it (I'd assume). And sadly predictable. An arrogant narcissist would never say that he got mad because the girl wouldn't put out (or in this case, kiss) and she left him in fear of his violent wrath.

Anyway, I'm not certain that material's going to be completely LEFT OUT of the anime. It was pretty clear that wasn't the whole story. I get the feeling there may be a big, direct connection between the two people's situations. When in middle school was Tarou's incident?

Spoiler:

Yuuno began to apologize and tell Tarou that the time she hit him and "awakened" him in middle school was a misunderstanding. She began to say something about losing her best friend(s). This is just speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me if this was around the time she'd recovered and come back to find all her friends hated her. This would have been very stressful, and she probably wouldn't have been able to think straight, so it would have been easy for her to make a mistake and take her pain out on someone. In a way, Sado's change helped her, turning people's focus from the girl who the "found out" was a "sl*t" to the guy who just revealed himself to be a major deviant perv in front of them. The younger they are, the more quickly they can switch to another interesting topic, and this probably helped to keep her from being the single designated target in the class.

I hope this relationship develops. Harems/triangles with serious competition are fine, but I prefer stuff where there's a single clear pair tied by the red string.

On a side note, I don't know if others had mentioned this, but isn't the name "Sado" a little ironic? I believe I've heard "sadist" be abbreviated in Japan like that once or twice.