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Perfect 10 | 44 | 40.74% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 33.33% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 12.96% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 9.26% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.85% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.85% | |
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2008-11-24, 20:32 | Link #221 |
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Samatarou, Asuka from Evangelion is also considered a tsundere (in fact I remember the times when tsundere term was not as popular as it is now and when evangelion was on its peak, it was even used a 'term' 'Asuka-like' to describe tsunderes) and you cannot say that she is not psychotic.
A lot of tsundere's are actually psychotic and have troubles to control their mood swings just like Taiga so for me it looks like from this aspect Taiga is still a tsundere. As if both happen in a same relationship then a character is considered a tsundere be she/he loud or silent cold. Probably because of this we see so many characters labeled as tsundere. Lately some started questioning Asuka being a tsundere due to the lack of her dere moments with Shinji (there are very little of those) something similar is with Taiga and Ryuuji one moment of niceness (or anger) doesnt mean that a character keep acting like that for continuous period of time. taiga could be a bitch who just had one moment of weakness through the whole series for example. The tsun and dere should be part of a relationship. In fact Taiga and Asuka are rather similar in a sense that both are damaged by their childhood (Though Taiga is significantly less and much more sane than Asuka) and have uncontrollable mood swings, and are hard to predict. Asuka's difference is from Taiga's (if we ignore the most obvious difference is that Asuka's character reaches to the core of human existence as such through philosophy) that she like Ami also plays double games and puts a 'nice-girl' mask on as she wants people to prise her so she could find a reason to exist. I suppose Asuka is what you get when you mix Ami with Taiga...or if we talk chronologically... Ami and Taiga is what you get when you split Asuka's personality up. Last edited by Darknemo2000; 2008-11-24 at 20:50. |
2008-11-24, 21:00 | Link #222 |
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Hmm, it is interesting that if you take two of Asuka's major characteristics and seperate them, you would get Ami & Taiga. Of course, this implies Asuka has twice the problems as Ami or Taiga ^^
Back onto Tsundere in any case, the Tsundere category is extremely broad in its spectrum if you include some of the most memorable recent examples. Some fit a certain mold well (Taiga, Louise, Shana), others are rather different (Asuka, Kallen). All have been called Tsundere, but have varying degrees of personal trauma, physical capabilities and other side traits.
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2008-11-24, 21:09 | Link #224 | ||||
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2008-11-24, 21:54 | Link #225 |
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Actually Shana or Louise are just as much unpredictable as Taiga is. You know what happens in ZnT volume 9, but I doubt you could have predicted for Louise to act that way.
Taiga can be predictable at some patterns as well - involve Kitamura - dere dere guaranteed, involve Ami - tsun tsun is what you'll see. Involve Ryuuji - tsun tsun for the most and sometimes dere. Louise is the same as her dere moments are like Taiga's, hard to predict actually. Taiga's actions are not that hard to predict when we compare her to such characters like Haruhi or Horo/ Those are the characters that are hard to predict. Taiga in this case is not too far from your normal tsundere's that she does have an acting pattern which she does tend to follow for the most part. her scream was random but again this is more connected with poor build-up rather than a trait of her character since so far she was following her acting pattern rather closely. |
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Darknemo2000, my brother agrees with your post about the definition on tsundere, but he stated that its hard to even label Taiga as such. I've spent a good hour with him talking about Taiga's complex character, and try to compare it with other tsundere character. Even though he was comparing it to Nagi from Kannagi (his favorite anime), but I told him they are not the same. |
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2008-11-25, 02:24 | Link #227 |
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Too many people *use* labels as a way to avoid having to deal with more complex facets of a character. Essentially its a way to stop having to think about them. "Oh yeah, she's a loli-tsundere".... no more thinking required. They label and move on. "That's a mecha show, meh" and so on.
That's why I tend to object to them -- some people may use the terms as starting points, but many more people use them as endpoints of analysis. So, with that - yeah, move along time.
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2008-11-25, 08:40 | Link #229 | |
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2008-11-25, 10:00 | Link #230 |
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Vexx, this was the point I was trying to make. Labels are useful when you want to starts and have a direction (labels will never guide you but can show which direction it goes and if you like it or not). It can be misleading but usually they are helpful, but only as starting points. Use a label as a final description of a character and you will not go anywhere just kill your own experience. taiga is a tsundere but at the same time she goes further than that (actually many characters as loong as they are well done do, like Louise from ZnT (of course that happens only in the novels as anime decided to kill any possible character depth for the sake of more boob-jokes)).
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2008-11-25, 20:14 | Link #231 |
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Episode 8
-Lol! “Sorry arl, Ami is mine”. -Ryuuji betting 3,000 tyrols on Taiga was so sweet!!! -Even when sleeping in class Minori is hilarious!!! That scene was so funny. -“Image training is good enough” Taiga was so cute and funny while doing that. -Kitamura betting on Taiga was so nice. -I wonder if Ami is truly falling for Ryuuji. -Loved the conversation between Minori and Ryuuji! I still think they make a lovely couple. -Taiga kicking the pool table was a very interesting moment. I think she did it because she was jealous of Ami, she didn’t like the idea of Ryuuji spending time with Ami, just the two of them all alone in her villa. I also think she did it because she was confused with her own thoughts, she was fully realizing that she wanted to win not because of Kitamura, or because she disliked Ami, it was because she didn’t want for Ryuuji to go away with Ami-chan, and I think this thought kind of scared her, so there was a mix of emotions inside of Taiga, which led to her kicking the pool table. -Ryuuji wanting for Taiga to win...mmm…it seems Taiga’s feelings are not the only ones that are starting to change. -Taiga’s decoy to wing against Ami was priceless , it’s was underhanded but priceless nonetheless. -Taiga trying to rescue Ryuuji even when she doesn’t fully know how to swim was so touching. I loved it!! Taiga’s actions always speak louder than her words. -“Ryuuji is mine. No one touch him”, loved that scene! Taiga has realized that Ryuuji is an important person to her, but she hasn’t fully realized just how important Ryuuji is to her, and by that I mean that she hasn’t fully realized that her feelings are not longer those of a master for her “dog”.
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2008-11-26, 22:33 | Link #233 |
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I didnt really read the last 8 pages nor do I care about the people who dont like Taiga, but I LOVED this episode, specially when Taiga goes all emotional over Ryuuji <333 I wished for a TaigaxRyuuji relationship since episode1, so I am uber-happy that she finally shows some emotions towards him
One second before the swimming match started, I thought just what has Taiga in her mind now and BAM! she goes all out on Ami xD I was like WHAT THE HELL AWESOME IDEA GO GO TAIGA FTW !!! <333 This happens very rarely for anime I watch, but I like Taiga so much now it comes close to Shana levels. |
2008-11-27, 21:04 | Link #234 | |
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I was actually using a seiyuu joke, since Ryuuji's VA (Junji Majima) voiced the Prinny Squad in the Disgaea series.
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2008-11-28, 04:27 | Link #236 |
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He's does the voice of the Prinnies (except for Kurtis and Big Sis Prinny) in EVERY GAME they've been in. And yes this includes "Prinny: Can I really be the Hero?". And this applies to the anime as well.
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