2008-07-08, 09:26 | Link #2421 | ||
Sleep beneath the flowers
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Lording above all of humanity >;3
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2008-07-08, 09:27 | Link #2422 | |
He Who Smites Shippers
Join Date: Mar 2008
Age: 37
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Within the context of your story, does the original character exist to highlight the strengths of the CCs, or do the CCs exist to highlight the awesomeness of your character? In other words, does your character replace the CCs, or does he/she supplement them? This is a constant thought I keep in my head while I'm working on Alex. In spite of his heritage (which I could've used to grant him something of a Superpowered Evil Side or awesome demonic powers) he's not that much more powerful than any of the other characters, and mostly that's just Nanoha while she's still starting out.
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2008-07-08, 09:34 | Link #2423 | |
Adeptus Animus
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Age: 36
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^ That's basically the rule that keeps Kerokanon spinning. Sure, there are times when the acts of CC's can highlight the strength of your OC, but as with all things, keep them in measure.
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2008-07-08, 09:41 | Link #2424 | |
Sleep beneath the flowers
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Lording above all of humanity >;3
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Ghaz said to draw the hands out myself but I don't have an actual deck of cards in my room. Just one that somehow seems to contain mostly 5's.
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2008-07-08, 10:08 | Link #2425 | ||
~ I Do ~
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: In the XV-8A Spartan "00"
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"July. Southern wet month, with short drenched days, enshrouded in 24-hour shitstorms. I've braved gunfire and crooks, but to say that I'm unbreakable on blue days is such a lie. Sometimes, I hit a molded patch and just stare at the obsidian abyss crying foul from above. Unmoving, wallowing.
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I just hope that is enough. "...but I shake my coat and sheathed my cross. "I can't give up. I must go on." |
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2008-07-08, 11:08 | Link #2426 | |
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*Smacks Kha around* Stop being a baby! Nothing's black or white like that in the writing world! Ideas and characters bend and change and always end up better for it. Few people get it right the first time, or the second time, or even fifth, that doesn't mean he's unsalvageable.
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2008-07-08, 12:51 | Link #2427 |
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@Kha: If you think you've changed him enough that you can not recognize him from the original version anymore, then give yourself a pat on the back and congratulate yourself for a job well done. It's not an easy feat to chop your characters down in size just so that everyone is pleased with it. Aaron had done it before, and so had us, and we can relate how painful it is to see our characters, so grand and glorious before, but now looking just like a normal citizen in the street of the world. You may not be able to see it, but I think your characters are quite normal if given the right selections (obviously, backstories as backstories must, not all are applicable in the correct sense), so there's no need to worry about them being Mary Sues at all. And for authors borrowing your characters, there is always cooperation to reduce any excessive embellishments to fit the story, not the other way around.
Note: Leona scores 48 points in the litmus test, and is considered a Mary Sue according to the scale. She has a little of the element, but mostly penalized for having a nice, beautiful name the author(s) of the test is/are just jealous of. |
2008-07-08, 12:56 | Link #2428 | |
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Location: Hotsprings Resort
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Seriously, Kha, there's nothing I can say that everyone else hasn't. Pick up the pieces and get back to work. It's up to us, the readers, to decide of Kha is a Mary Sue or not. Every OC has the potential to be MS, even those with low scores. It's not about how much you nerf the character, but the role he plays and how you present it as such. Do not think of it as a burden or sin, but a challenge to your writing skill. Can you present a story that is enjoyable, believable, entertaining, and original, without becoming over-the-top and annoyingly typical? I expect you can. Just know when to hold back. They say too many chefs spoil the soup. Too many ideas can spoil the character. I haven't been here all that long, but as Keroko said, I'll help too.
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2008-07-08, 14:58 | Link #2429 | ||
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Germany
Age: 40
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Thanks to stuff like his "dangerous" nickname (Mage of Carnage) and 'tragic' past. Rinya is 13. It may be higher if there was a option like: "got into a fight with her dad and joined the military" but that is not very mary-sue like isn't it? Quote:
Elric 12 Rinya 10 ah well...
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2008-07-08, 15:37 | Link #2431 | |||||
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2008-07-08, 15:38 | Link #2432 | ||||
the "Z" is for "Zeta"
Join Date: Nov 2006
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In my case...Koji scored a 62 >_> The test is very limited indeed, there isn't even a choice about the character solving a problem WITH the other characters, as in together. as in teamwork... Quote:
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And I'm either reading those questions wrong, or most of the situations to choose from don't apply to the character I'm using as test subject... But yeah...let's not give too much importance to the test...
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2008-07-08, 20:31 | Link #2433 | ||||
~ I Do ~
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Location: In the XV-8A Spartan "00"
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Even though he can hold his own against a horde (Weapon Skill 5, Strength 7, 5 attacks, high Initiative, lots of wounds, 4+ Invulnerable save), due to his short range (Ballistic Skill 3) his biggest impact was buffing the grunts up, flash-healing injuries and inspiring them (army-wide +1 to Wound and Initiative, letting any unit within LOS use his Leadership value, and in a shooting phase allow 1 model in LOS to avoid being removed immediately after wound on a 3+ roll) such that they fight better, and thus influencing the turn of the tide. And is why Kha is so expensive in points. Oh and non-40K fans you can ignore the values. Quote:
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2008-07-09, 00:48 | Link #2434 |
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Hiyo thread I went away from the week end and though I read through the backlog I don't have much motivation to post a breaker so none of that. The Mary Sue test looks like it might be good for a few minutes amusement though so let's give it a whirl. Since he's basically my flagship char I used Felix:
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As for Kha being all emo I'm not even going to touch that besides I've seen it before he'll get over it in a day and maybe be slightly better off for the tough thinking it made him do... maybe.
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2008-07-09, 01:47 | Link #2435 |
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song ATM: Keine's Drawing Song
Hmm... it's time to curb the madness and post epic story.
------------------- Spoiler for prologue:
========== Spoiler for Part 1: The Place The Gods and People Loved:
What will happen when Outer Cadia meets Touhou? Will Takeru survive the moon rabbit hordes and get out of the bridge in one piece? What is really Zafira thinking about Momizi? And most important of all, where in the name of Suwako have Shamal and Hikki gone to? As usual, don't expect it to be updated ASAP (though I've wanted the premise to be short) and also don't expect it to be clean of any and all services (as the two chapters have shown ). *goes to prepare for tomorrow's job interview* Last edited by USB500; 2008-07-09 at 02:57. |
2008-07-09, 02:43 | Link #2436 | |
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Location: Hotsprings Resort
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Hmm. Hmm. This is relevant to my interests. Thusly, I present this in response! Spoiler for Elsewhere...:
Edit: This is not to be taken canonical with USB's story... unless he wants it to be :3
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2008-07-09, 03:10 | Link #2437 | |
Hi-Eternal
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Backyard of Moriya shrine
Age: 39
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A touhou crossover. two nitpicks: Reinforce zwei doesn't call Hayate "Hayate-sama", but Hayate-chan And I thought there were only earth rabbits (excluding Reisen, she is a moon rabbit) in Eientei. :/ and I guess this should be Tempest's icecream/bar shop ^.^;;; |
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2008-07-09, 03:15 | Link #2438 | |
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2008-07-09, 04:08 | Link #2440 | |
Σ(。д°(o--(ಠ益ಠ )
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Location: Hotsprings Resort
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And now, something once again non-canonical to USB's fic but amuses me greatly. >_> <_< ... :3 *drops this and RUNS* Spoiler for Ordinary Stranger:
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