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Old 2017-07-30, 11:51   Link #24961
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A bit late but Jeanne is the true MVP, have to use CS to revive cause Archuria decide to drain Alter's NP when i'm already stunned her
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Edit: oh god now i'm out of blue archer orbs RIP me, Fists Saint and Beach Queen eat them all
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Old 2017-07-30, 12:38   Link #24962
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Trolled in the cruelest way....
Silver lancer.... flash to gold...... Bry..... KARNA!!!!!
Bryn... I've failed you once again....

Sigh.... off to catch an arch nemesis for Moriarty....
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Old 2017-07-30, 12:50   Link #24963
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I am willing to take off your hands if you don't mind and I have to reinstall my app anyway.
PM'ed you the details. Make me proud and 10/10/10 everyone. Just kidding.

edit: also, my advice is not to use up the hearts to ascend Herc further. Farm the last heart on Friday to max-ascend Altera. With kaleidoscope and having the highest ATK value in the game, supplemented by a level 4 crest of the star, she will supply a more constant flow of FPs. Except when fighting archer dailies and hands, she is a reliable one-shot wave clearer. People who have their own Wavers will more likely choose her over Herc unless fighting single boss battles. Even vs single boss, Attila is a force to be reckoned with.

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Old 2017-07-30, 15:06   Link #24964
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120 quartz and out of it, I get Marie-Antoinette and 3rd copy of archer Emiya. Well then, done with the gacha because maid saber alter.
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Old 2017-07-30, 16:16   Link #24965
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Did anyone here pick the Lancelot CE? Only one I'm missing and cannot find it anywhere after refreshing for basically 2 days.
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Old 2017-07-30, 17:02   Link #24966
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You can focus on finding a party that's more offense oriented instead of focusing on trying to turtle. You have Ishtar and Waver right? I think giving your Ishtar a black grail CE and your Waver a CE that focuses on NP generation then a support Merlin would be able to get you through it in around 20+ turns. Since you're running a single Merlin and you absolutely cannot defend against Alter's NP without Merlin's Illusion you need to concentrate on delaying her NP using Waver's NP while Illusion is on cooldown.
I don't think it'll go as you imagine. You can't charge Waver's NP fast enough to reduce Alter's NP to match the cooldown for Merlin. You'd need to put out Waver's NP three times every cycle to match them. Even with something like Prisma Ilya it's impossible. Not to mention that you don't nearly deal enough damage to finish it in like 20ish turns.
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Old 2017-07-30, 19:07   Link #24967
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I don't think it'll go as you imagine. You can't charge Waver's NP fast enough to reduce Alter's NP to match the cooldown for Merlin. You'd need to put out Waver's NP three times every cycle to match them. Even with something like Prisma Ilya it's impossible. Not to mention that you don't nearly deal enough damage to finish it in like 20ish turns.
You only need to refill your NP bar twice if you make sure Waver's NP is ready and with GoA stacks/arts chains/and their np charging skills I think it's doable. The 20ish turn estimate is based on other people finishing this with a similar lineup. Yours will probably end up a bit longer due to NP1 but it will still probably near that number.

Anyway it doesn't hurt to try. In the end it's just 5AP per try. You just have to experiment how to cram more offense in your tries if you don't want to turtle.
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Old 2017-07-30, 21:10   Link #24968
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So i heard the price of quartz for the Japanese version has been changed. You get more quartz for the same amount of money. Is this change permanent? 5000 yen for 76 quartz seems like a steal in spite of 1% 5 star rates.
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Old 2017-07-30, 22:21   Link #24969
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/2nd_fgofes2017/

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リニューアル後、聖晶石購入時にオマケでもらえる無償分の聖晶石の個数を以下のように変更いた します。

◆リニューアル実施日時◆
2017年7月30日(日) 13:10~
Yes it is. Shouldn't have bought some last event in my blind rage to get Lancer Kiyo,


Also, 5 hour maintenance in about 40 minutes. To implement the half AP for dailies, increase success rate for leveling, start of new strengthening quests and Holmes trial quest.
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Old 2017-07-31, 00:08   Link #24970
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Going to burn 100+ Quartz on the Nero Fest Pickup Summon.

Might post some screenshots soon. So far, I got 2 five-star craft essences.
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Old 2017-07-31, 00:18   Link #24971
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The thing in Saber Alter challenge is she focus on caster (or just Merlin lol) so he will die fast, what more she crits hard too even with all the def stack
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Old 2017-07-31, 00:19   Link #24972
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Noob question:

I keep getting the max total cost for servant lineup. Is it better sometimes to have a stronger servant lineup or particular servants equipped with better craft essences?
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Old 2017-07-31, 00:22   Link #24973
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The thing in Saber Alter challenge is she focus on caster (or just Merlin lol) so he will die fast, what more she crits hard too even with all the def stack
She basically just attacks casters first but she doesn't really focus so if you use 2 casters she still ends up with RNG between the 2 casters. Double Merlin or double Tamamo pretty much outheals her because of this.

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Trolled in the cruelest way....
Silver lancer.... flash to gold...... Bry..... KARNA!!!!!
I would have liked that Karna more than my Arjuna roll. So many gold archers that I'd be happy getting but it has to be Arjuna
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Old 2017-07-31, 00:53   Link #24974
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Noob question:

I keep getting the max total cost for servant lineup. Is it better sometimes to have a stronger servant lineup or particular servants equipped with better craft essences?
Always better to have stronger servants unless your CEs include kaleidoscope or imaginary element. You can field Mashu to save cost. We don't have content that needs brain power yet. This will change later. Servants like Euryale, George, Robin, and maybe even Hans may be situationally useful.
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Old 2017-07-31, 01:38   Link #24975
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You only need to refill your NP bar twice if you make sure Waver's NP is ready and with GoA stacks/arts chains/and their np charging skills I think it's doable. The 20ish turn estimate is based on other people finishing this with a similar lineup. Yours will probably end up a bit longer due to NP1 but it will still probably near that number.

Anyway it doesn't hurt to try. In the end it's just 5AP per try. You just have to experiment how to cram more offense in your tries if you don't want to turtle.
This only works for the first cycle. Subsequent cycles have to be charged three times. I tried and by the third cycle you just run out of turns (the second cycle can be had via Atlas), which means you die somewhere early in the third gauge. Of course you then finish her off by using all three CS, which is what I did.
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Old 2017-07-31, 01:49   Link #24976
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You need to push for stars and you need to field an arts team if you want to charge Waver faster. Ishtar will suck stars and she's not arts-chain friendly.
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Old 2017-07-31, 03:17   Link #24977
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This only works for the first cycle. Subsequent cycles have to be charged three times. I tried and by the third cycle you just run out of turns (the second cycle can be had via Atlas), which means you die somewhere early in the third gauge. Of course you then finish her off by using all three CS, which is what I did.
hmmm... maybe fielding 2030s with merlin and waver would have better results. Was thinking plugsuit stun and an eventual David Swap can save you for 1 more NP. Yeah the thing with fielding Waver for this challenge is that unlike double Merlin or double Tamamo you will eventually be hit by her NP so you really have to bring her down fast.

I do think that Tamamo is a better pair for Waver for this challenge but using Tamamo means you need to have a useable Orion/Archuria/Kuro.
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Kyubey: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute.
Homura: Tribute? You steal girls' souls, and make them your slaves!
Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.
Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you!
Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!
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Old 2017-07-31, 03:39   Link #24978
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I do think that Tamamo is a better pair for Waver for this challenge but using Tamamo means you need to have a useable Orion/Archuria/Kuro.
Well yeah, I have a level 90 Choco and a level 85 Orion. Was thinking of retrying that quest with an arts team around Kuro to see if that can manage it without use of CS.
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Old 2017-07-31, 04:07   Link #24979
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Well, did guaranted gacha yesterday...
Dream: Merlin or JAlter
Want: Musashi, Gil, Kintoki

Got: King Hassan....well, it's not he's bad...but, with Jack's there...
and damn that material for max'ing his skill needed...chain hell and sting hell here i come...

anyway, since he's cool bad ass...i'll take this..
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Old 2017-07-31, 05:14   Link #24980
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well I went on and downloaded this game since the English version came out a couple week ago so I figure I'd give it a go. So far it's fun, but are there any tips for a beginner?
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