2011-11-16, 04:33 | Link #25622 | |
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Spoiler for sort of spoiler:
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2011-11-16, 05:27 | Link #25624 |
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I hope it reveals absolutely everything and not just how the murders happened. Outside a few cases, we already know how most of these happened. Devil is in the detail and whatnot.
What I hope we also get is any form of symbolism and little hidden thing in the text that was suppose to be a hint get focused on. |
2011-11-16, 05:34 | Link #25625 | ||
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There's also the possibility of shifting definitions in the red text, considering we're getting reds from Bernkastel and Lambdadelta during these scenes, rather than Beatrice. |
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2011-11-16, 07:05 | Link #25626 | |
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anyways, I think in EP5 and Ep6 Erika just filled a vacant hole that Beatrice left. by vacant hole i mean The 18th person position. there's a red truth like There are no more than 18 people on this rokkenjima right? from ep3. |
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2011-11-16, 09:23 | Link #25627 | |
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Also heh, true culprit. Like we don't already know who that is.
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2011-11-16, 09:31 | Link #25628 |
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Well he kinda recanted at one point saying that he was going to introduce more of how the murders took place and how the illusions where created. I seriously doubt he's going to come out with what actually happened in R.Prime because that would be a different story all together. It is possible I guess but I kinda doubt it.
I wanna see how its presented though, it should be impossible for Yasu to actually confess in a letter what happened in stories that aren't EP1-2. So is Battler doing a confession for both of them? It would be a nice touch that the stories where signed by "Ushiromiya Maria" and have the confession signed by "The Golden Witch, Beatrice" |
2011-11-16, 10:46 | Link #25629 | |
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And while he said he wouldn't come out and reveal everything in a textbook answer he'll probably do this in a metaphorical manner again...I'm not against it as long as it's substantial and not only Yasu crying about her pitiful fate. |
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2011-11-16, 10:47 | Link #25630 |
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A random idea that doesn't exactly push anything further in reasoning.
With the story calling Shannon and Kanon "furniture" all of the time, and that they are basically the "pieces the author uses to make the murders", I think Ryuukishi's idea concerning this was probably something like "<Shkanontrice> is the how dunnit, the weapon of murder in itself, <Yasutrice> is the author, the mastermind above the stories, the real culprit". I use Yasutrice to refer to Meta-Beatrice and Yasu at the same time, btw. As for Rokkenjima Prime I still think "ange's story" is a tale like all the others. The tale "where all other tales are only tales but murders really did happen" remains a tale. |
2011-11-16, 11:03 | Link #25631 | |
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I'm hoping it's a mocking account by the "true" villain, whoever that turns out to be, however. The actual person being less important than whether they're a dick. Although there's a few people who would be mind-blowing choices if executed right. Wait, why do I have any faith in Ryukishi to execute anything right? Nevermind.
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2011-11-16, 11:38 | Link #25632 |
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Oh, the red truth about Erika not changing the number of other people present.
I'd resolved that to myself on the reasoning that Kanon is considered a distinct person by the red truth, even if he doesn't have a body. His body would increase the BODY count, but not the PERSON count. Kanon in his own body is still effectively the same person as Kanon in Yasu's body. This also makes sense to me because "number of bodies" is a matter Ryukishi blatantly avoided, even though it would've made sense for both Battler and Erika to pursue it further in those times they actually questioned it. |
2011-11-16, 11:42 | Link #25633 |
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Ryuukishi blog update! The things that will be released at Winter Comiket are as follows:
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2011-11-16, 12:17 | Link #25634 | |
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im so Fu*** exited for this. btw what does it mean by booklet? is it a VN or not? |
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2011-11-16, 12:32 | Link #25635 |
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While I'm totally cool(and actually excited) with getting an answer, I have a strange feeling this will be as disappointing as the sequel to "Mysterious Card" by Moffet.
That said, I think it will probably just be a straight answer to all regular murders, while not touching Rokkenjima prime. Still, I remember someone suggesting the sealed answers thing for Umineko just a few days ago in this topic, and I thought it was a great idea. Depending on the quality of the answers, this could go a long way into helping the series' overall quality(well, at least for me). |
2011-11-16, 12:49 | Link #25638 |
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It will be uploaded to the internet eventually. Just a matter of time. That's how we got the extra TIPS and his mystery vs anti-mystery talk too.
as for it not being a VN. Ryukishi's very stubborn about his anti spoiler stance for newer readers. A VN would get spoiled a lot faster over the internet because of screenshots. |
2011-11-16, 12:52 | Link #25639 |
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I'm actually looking forward to the extra tip almost as much as the answer booklet, assuming it's what it sounds like and not a goofy comedy story. I wondered what kind of evil mystery Ryuukishi could make if he said "Now you know all my tricks, so that means I can go all-out."
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2011-11-16, 12:59 | Link #25640 | |
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Oh wait, there's nothing useful you can do with it.
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