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He is still as cool now as he was before. Sasuke for life! | 55 | 16.87% | |
Give the guy some slack, after all his entire family was murdered | 56 | 17.18% | |
Never liked him, never hated him | 81 | 24.85% | |
Yeah, I am beginning to hate him now. | 45 | 13.80% | |
Sasuke deserves to die! A.S.S for life! | 89 | 27.30% | |
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2008-07-16, 12:34 | Link #241 | |
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However, I'll admit that the quality of training between them was perhaps equal before and during the exams; there were certain details I carelessly forgot to factor in; apparently I need to read it over again sometime. Are the stats are a representation of the character without additional sources of power such as the kyuubi and cursed seal? (I thought I read you stating this) During that time, without the cursed seal Neji was definitely ahead of Sasuke as he was already in the academy a year earlier and also confirmed as a genius and"rookie of the year" like Sasuke. It seems as though you're severely underestimating Neji; he was one of the most feared and respected ninja by the other students during the exams, and at one point even Kakashi admits that Sasuke doesn't even stand a chance against him( The cursed seal, of course, changes this later on). If you are interested in reading Kakashi actually state this, its on chapter 80, page 3. Last edited by ShadowAssasin; 2008-07-16 at 13:44. |
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2008-07-16, 15:44 | Link #242 | |
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These statistical scores are meant to only provide basic information about each characters overall skill, they are not determining factors in any "what if...?" battle scenario. As you and I have both stated countless times, the determing factor in a fight in the Narutoverse, is more perserverance than actual skill or ability. The person standing in the end, is the one who fought the hardest and had the greatest stregth of will (i.e. they kept fighting). This is obviously an idealistic notion of fighting, but still the ideal is the heart of Naruto. |
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2008-07-16, 19:02 | Link #243 | |
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2008-07-16, 19:34 | Link #245 | |
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2008-07-17, 14:37 | Link #247 | |||||
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Since the data book isn't a reliable source... (and I'm waiting for someone...)
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2008-07-17, 14:40 | Link #248 |
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Currently rereading the manga, I've been using the anime for a lot of things lately, which was a stupid thing to do, especially in regards to Naruto's character development. The anime seriously chunked that out of the window. -_-
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2008-07-17, 18:46 | Link #249 | |
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Differently speaking they are mostly worthless (and trying to add them up is completely so). They are only meant to give an idea of the characters's strong and weak points. |
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2008-08-04, 19:58 | Link #250 |
Formerly -> CMHerrera
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Join Date: May 2008
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The people who don't like sasuke does'nt like his attitude and the way he doesn't acknowlege some people in his life, that made him seem more dark.
Really he did that because it what itachi sayed to order to get your revenge you have to kill your bestfriend. which made him more insoliate to him self when he was young. Now he left his past behind and he got caught up in power. But I still have hope, but not so much. |
2008-08-04, 22:19 | Link #251 |
I have it inside me :]
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You kno at the beginning I wrote this is my own opinion so try not to flame me for it, but go ahead...
Sasuke is a genius in combat only. Everywhere else he is well, quite stupid. He said he would claim power his own way at VoTE right? I have not seen him do that. He claimed power in Oro's way yes. He also claimed power in Itachi's way to achieve mangekyo. And now he is achieving power in tobi's way. He crys for his brother and plans to avenge him...by doing the exact opposite of what he told him to do. He refused to grow, and then became frustrated at his lack of growth. He became comfortable...and instead of realizing it and trying to achieve power by maybe a path similar to rock lees, he went to everyone else but himself to do it in as little time as possible. Sasuke refuses to see his own flaws and work on them. He bitched and moaned about naruto surpassing him, but never trained until he had to. Sasuke is like putting bambams brain in Rocky balboa. Yeah he has the potential to kick sooooo much ass, but hes a fucking baby! I was honestly a sasuke fanboy up until oro stepped in. Actually, reading the parts when sasuke died for naruto and activated the sharingan against oro in the forest of death still give me warm fuzzy feelings inside. But that all stopped once he decided to take the easy way out. Now im not against asking for help in fact im glad naruto did and so did pretty much everyone else, but sasuke just pretty much had himself plvled to glory. And now my hate of sasuke has expanded into outright rage at the fact that I have to see his punk ass acting all high and mighty about power he hardly had to work for. Sasuke loves to go to other people for the answers so much his nindo should be plagurism. Whereas people like naruto find their own answers and eventually become stronger for it. To me sasuke has become what Kuja was in Final Fantasy 9. A souless husk (a pretty one ill admit) who will kill get everyone to do dirtywork for him while he reaps the endless benefits that eventually give him ultima and he will destroy the planet. I appreciate you reading all this. If any part of this makes no sense to you tell me and I will try to help you understand my point of view. If all you want to do is argue, leave me the hell alone. |
2008-08-06, 02:04 | Link #252 |
Your wife is hot...
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i dont want any more powerful ninjas got defeated by sasuke (handicap or not), let see after the time skip, he defeated: orochimaru (while he was sick), deidara (he saved himself from the final blast by covering himself w/ manda, cheap), itachi (he was sick too and did not even try to win ), and now the hachibi.
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2008-08-06, 12:35 | Link #253 |
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pizzajincuuriki, its pretty refreshing to read an anti sasuke post without the poster's dislike for him being based on the gap between him and naruto. I gave you a rep+ just for that, even though I disagree with most of your post. I also like how you haven't included the author in your argument at all.
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2008-08-10, 20:21 | Link #255 | |
Formerly -> CMHerrera
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2008-08-10, 20:26 | Link #256 | |
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That one is still a toss up. |
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2008-08-13, 03:49 | Link #259 | |
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I guess you are mistaking something there. |
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2008-08-13, 05:09 | Link #260 |
Random Narutard. n_n
Join Date: Jul 2008
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If you'd ask me Sasuke is overpowered and should die very quickly, but that won't happen because if Sasuke would die and Naruto would be there > Naruto would get "emo/sad/whatever" etc.
Oh and don't forget Sakura. |
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