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Zelensky sounds like a big Trump fan, so maybe he was happy to help anyway. I'd be more convinced if they could point to some aid package that was actually withheld by the white house, or some data that the Ukrainians delivered to Trump before receiving such an aid package. This phone call alone is kind of weak to justify an impeachment case, but that's just my opinion. You are right in the sense that Trump did a bad thing, and I wouldn't call that in itself "propaganda". The propagandistic part, I suppose, was how much this action was hyped up as a treasonous, impeachable offense when it's really not such a big deal.
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A Russian Armored Train Has Joined The Invasion Of Ukraine
"Russian forces are using an armored train in Ukraine amid reports that their supply lines are strained and under attack." See: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ion-of-ukraine ==================================== Russian Police Arrest 13K Protesters as Ukraine Invasion Opposition Surges "The number of protesters arrested comes as a recent poll released by jailed Kremlin- opposition leader Alexei Navalny showed a rise in opposition to the Russian invasion of Ukraine." See: https://www.newsweek.com/russian-pol...surges-1685965 ==================================== Russian Air Force already lost four newest Su-34 fighter-bombers in Ukraine "Russian Armed Forces reportedly have suffered heavy losses with 11,000 men dead and over 1000 pieces of large hardware lost, including modern combat aircraft." See: https://defence-blog.com/russian-air...rs-in-ukraine/ ==================================== Ukraine’s Use Of Stinger And Javelin Missiles Is Outstripping U.S. Production "Few realize that advanced Javelin anti-tank and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles are backed by an aged and insecure production infrastructure, riddled with potential bottlenecks, vulnerabilities, and supply challenges." See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigho...us-production/ ==================================== Russian Officer Complains About Dead General and Comms Meltdown in Intercepted Call "Ukraine says it intercepted a call between two FSB officers discussing the death of a top general and the failure of its encrypted comms system." See: https://www.thedailybeast.com/fsb-of...tercepted-call ==================================== Russia’s Disaster of a War in Ukraine Means China Won’t Invade Taiwan? "The Lesson of Ukraine for China: Grabbing Taiwan would be Harder than it Thinks" See: https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/03/...invade-taiwan/ |
2022-03-09, 13:48 | Link #246 |
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Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Turns Two Weeks Old:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-two-weeks-old ================================ Russia's Military Losses in Ukraine Are A Gold Mine for US Intelligence: https://www.newsweek.com/russias-mil...igence-1686055 ================================ Ukrainians Share Intelligence About Russian Convoys Through Chatbot: https://www.defenseworld.net/news/31...t#.YijcApaIZaQ ================================ Chernobyl Nuclear Plant's Power Lines Are Cut Raising Concerns About Its Safety: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...out-its-safety ================================ Poland’s ‘surprise’ MiG-29 offer for Ukraine not ‘tenable,’ US says: https://breakingdefense.com/2022/03/...nfusion-in-us/ ================================ Concern Rising That Putin Could Use Nuclear Weapons: https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...eapons/362913/ ================================ The secret US mission to bolster Ukraine’s cyber defenses ahead of Russia’s invasion: https://arstechnica.com/information-...sias-invasion/ ================================ Russia Intentionally Starving Ukrainians as Method of Warfare— War Crimes Expert: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-inte...arfare-1686432 ================================ Ukrainian company offers $1 million to Russian pilots who defect with fighters: https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/ukraini...with-fighters/ ================================ Italian G550 CAEW Aircraft Carried Out First Surveillance Mission Over Eastern Europe Today: https://theaviationist.com/2022/03/0...-caew-romania/ ================================ The Next Few Weeks Of Fighting In Ukraine Will Be "Ugly" CIA Director Warns: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...director-warns ================================ UK plans to send anti-aircraft weapons to Ukraine, says Ben Wallace: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ys-ben-wallace ================================ Russia’s Rocket Barrages Reveal Bad Planning, Cruelty—and the Absence of Crucial Skills: https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...skills/362911/ ================================ Captured Russian AK-12 Rifles Appear To Be The Trophy Guns Of Choice For Ukrainians: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...nian-officials ================================ 'Idiots': Russian military phone calls hacked after own soldiers destroy 3G towers: https://news.yahoo.com/russian-milit...104303881.html ================================ Zelensky Has Survived Over a Dozen Assassination Attempts, Ukraine Claims: https://www.newsweek.com/volodymyr-z...russia-1686329 ================================ What happens if President Zelensky is killed or captured? Ukraine and allies discuss political succession. https://www.businessinsider.com/ukra...aptured-2022-3 ================================ Romanian Air Force MiG-21 Lancer that crashed on Mar. 2, 2022 Reportedly Mistakenly shot down by Ukrainian S-300PS SAM: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/roma...n-s-300ps-sam/ ================================ How A Ukrainian Woman Used Pickled Tomatoes To Take Down A Drone: https://www.mashed.com/791782/how-a-...-down-a-drone/ |
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Indian media picked up news of Indians already engaging the Russians, some in the Georgia Legion and others in the Ukrainian military' international legion. Around 500 joined, including military veterans and expats who settled in Ukraine.
They can be charged under Chapter VI, Section 121-130 of the Indian Penal Code. It states that "Whoever commits depredation, or makes preparation to commit depredation, on the territories of any Power in alliance or at peace with the Government of India, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to seven years, and shall also be liable to fine and to forfeiture of any property used or intended to be used in committing such depredation, or acquired by such depredation". However, the law also states the law is used only if a "foreign Army in which India nationals joining is doing inimical things or is an adversary of India." IIRC, this was used against Indians who joined jihadi groups.
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2022-03-10, 11:44 | Link #249 |
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I predict when this is over, they will be received like heroes for two simple reasons:
A) India wants to keep economic trade with Russia, but after their economy has been wrecked that would be pointless. B) India wants to keep buying Russian weapons, but after their economy has been wrecked they can simply hire all the people with the required know how of how to do said weapons. If they don't the Chinese will. I also predict that in the future when they examine putin's corpse, they will find extensive brain damage due to covid19. Obviously the quickest way to end this war is putting putin out of his misery, but he is an assassin, he no doubt has taken all the measures to prevent such scenario, so this will drag on causing misery all around. The good news is that unlike lukashenko, putin has not been grooming a successor. The bad news is that he could live until 90 like Fidel Castro, maybe even more. |
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Putin will probably be the fall guy, but the regime will make or find another replacement. Maybe that guy from Chechnya.
Also the sanctions will produce a lot of anger and resentment.The perfect breeding ground for populist militarism. Remember that Hitler rose to power following a broken and humiliated Germany To actually deprogram a population you need to occupy them for a while and well, look how those played this past decades. outside of WW2 Germany has it been successful? And even in Germany, they still have parties like AFD //
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These are the facts. You can say whatever you want afterwards, it doesn't change reality. Also: the motivations of the opposing party are irrelevant if the impeachment reasons were, in fact, reasonable! This shouldn't have been partisan but it was, and it wasn't the democrats that made it so. Or at least not on their own. And, to circle back to this thread, all of this leads in part to the situation we're in today. Obama's weak response when Crimea was annexed was bad, the former president's fawning over Putin didn't help either. Note that, however, the ultimate blame lies with the people in the Kremlin for ordering the troops in. That western countries let themselves reach the state where we are debating the morals of the politicians on either side of the aisle is just a very sad and unfortunate state of affairs (and not unrelated mind) but, in the grand scheme of things, nothing more than a distraction. I already feel bad for taking the clear bait on the original post. Nothing comes from commenting on the absolutely insane last 5 years or so in US politics. PS: I admit that I had misremembered the quote. The "But first" was indeed implied, not spelled out.
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2022-03-10, 14:07 | Link #252 |
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Widespread Destruction Now Common In Some Ukrainian Cities As
Russia's Invasion Enters Week Three "Horrific scenes of massive devastation in urban areas are now becoming the norm in Ukraine." See: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...out-its-safety ================================= Russia reportedly strikes Ukraine maternity hospital as health care attacks mount "Russia has attacked health facilities, health workers, and ambulances, WHO says." See: https://arstechnica.com/science/2022...attacks-mount/ ================================= StarStreak: How Britain Plans to Help Ukraine Kill RussiaÂ’s Helicopters and Air Force "StarStreak can be shoulder-fired or mounted on a stand. Each StarStreak missile weighs 30-pounds, and its range is 4.3-miles with a 3-mile ceiling. It is considered one of the fastest air defense missiles in the world with a top speed of MACH 3.5 that can track fast-moving jet fighters." See: https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/03/...and-air-force/ ================================= Poland's "High Risk" Plan To Transfer MiG-29s To Ukraine Shot Down By U.S. "The Pentagon says there are better ways to bolster Ukraine's air defenses that are less likely to provoke a Russian response." See: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...29s-to-ukraine ================================= Russian military vehicles are flying Soviet hammer and sickle flags in Ukraine "Though the Soviet Union is known in the U.S. for its harsh authoritarian regime, human rights violations, and poor economic conditions, there is a wave of nostalgia among many Russians for the global power of the old empire." See: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/russ...-flag-ukraine/ ================================= New law allows civilians in Ukraine to shoot enemy fighters "According to the law, which went into effect on Monday, foreigners and the stateless living legally in the country can also obtain weapons and use them against Russian soldiers involved in the ongoing attack of Ukraine." See: https://warisboring.com/new-law-allo...nemy-fighters/ ================================= After An Abysmal Start, Here Is How RussiaÂ’s Application Of Airpower In Ukraine Could Evolve "A rash of losses in Ukraine has increased questions about the competency and role of the Russian Aerospace Forces." See: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...e-could-evolve ================================= Russia Accused Of Using Air-Dropped Butterfly Mines To Block Ukrainian Evacuation Route "The PFM-1 does not look like a mine. It is plastic, five inches across and an inch high, with asymmetric wings to glide to the ground like a sycamore seed without a parachute. Inside the soft plastic skin is a detonator and a quantity of liquid explosive. The detonator is triggered by cumulative deformation of the plastic skin: either a single event such as a vehicle running over it, or a series of smaller events such as handling." See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidha...tterfly-mines/ ================================= Is Russia planning to use chemical weapons in Ukraine? The signs are there. "Defense officials are now warning that Russia may resort to using chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, following an uptick in Russian disinformation efforts revolving around these sorts of weapons." See: https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/is-russ...gns-are-there/ ================================= Russian Officials "Live In Their Own Reality," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Says After Failed Talks "Top Ukrainian and Russian diplomats met for the first time today over the conflict, which is now in its third week with no signs of abatement." See: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ys-after-talks |
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We live in age when a government can't totally suppress information in a country the size of Russia. The nationalists will rally around their dear leader of course, but most Russians will blame him for not being able to shop on Uniqlo, go on twitter, or get an international flight. Make no mistake, he's been severely undercut already.
The issue though is what that means. There's no real political opposition - that's been crushed. And Russia does not have a long-standing tradition of democracy - they're used to being oppressed by one tyrant or the other. Resignation seems to be deeply ingrained in the national mindset. Putin is horrible, but replacing him isn't necessarily going to be better in the short-term.
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At the speed this conflict is escalating (Russia had as many dead soldiers in one week as the USA in two decades in afganisthan, expect them to surpass the numer the USA got in vietnam before the invasion is over) I expect this month: Chemical weapons. Then en EU will stop buying russian oil, then the bridge putin built to connect to ukraine will have an "accident", then putin will implement the draft in Crimea. Oh, and putin will place one of his oligarchs in jail, to keep his bitches from moaning about returning to the prior status quo. Meanwhile putin says (who knows if he believes) their economy will become more robust after some tweaking and the average russian thinks they will simply have less access to luxuries and that their pensions will be keep being paid. Now that they will stop supplying the west fertilizes, you can bet the west will not have a food surplus to see to russia and with sky high inflation government pensions will simply evaporate like in venezuela, coins will be but a memory in no time. |
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60705486
Well Moscow is "officially" upping the volunteer game of their own. From the looks of things, it looks they're bagging Syrians.
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2022-03-11, 06:29 | Link #260 | |
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The degree the bioweapon propaganda has spread among qanon and its adjacent groups seems to suggest that Russia might just do that next and blame someone else
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If Russia continues to be an autocracy than a lot of people are just continue to eat up state propaganda. The thing about an autocracy is they are really good at defecting blame. Chinese companies will slowly replace western companies that pulled out, and they will be promoting their own talking points. China is far from neutral in this war. //
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